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Yesterday my DH decided to call SD11 he hadn't spoken to her since last thursday when she decided to make false accusations about my DH and decided not to come over on her regular visitation day, when they talked he told to her we are going to have a long chat about what's been going on since the beginning of August.When DH was done talking to her from work he asked that she call me. When I answered I was really short with her too on the phone because I have been so hurt with her split personality and her false accusations. She could tell that I was upset. I asked her if things were good with her and her dad and she said yes. I said that was good. Then I asked her if she was coming over this thursday and she said yes and that she was also coming this weekend. This weekend I have two friends coming up from out of town and we are going to the pumpkin patch to have some fun. So of course she decided she was going to let things go and come over this week. Well then this morning my DH gets an email from BM stating that SD11 doesn't feel comfortable enough to come over this thursday and talk about what's been going on that if we could get together on monday with BM and SD11 to talk about this. I disagree with this! The situation has nothing to do with BM and we have done nothing wrong, SD11 has been making false accusations and hiding behind her mother instead of dealing with the situation. I also don't feel comforterable with BM because she is evil and turns everything you say into something that it is not. I also think that we need to deal with this now! It has been going on for three months now. Does anyone have any advice how they would handle this situation as a step parent or a parent at all. I have no idea what BM is thinking and i don't have children of my own for any experience. I am heart broken and feel at a loss.

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Annanymous's picture

Good lord, went back and read your last couple blogs and it sounds like this little girl has some borderline tendencies or something. I wouldn't be comfortable with her coming over for the weekend either.

Rachel81's picture

I am glad that someone else sees how crazy this situation is. It is definitely a tough one for a parent let alone a step parent.

Clearly An Upgrade's picture

This stinks of the same horrible sh*t that we've been going through for sixteen years. If I can offer up any advice, it is that you follow your gut instincts and DO NOT allow BM to come into your lives!!!! Have all communications with her go through email (so everything is documented), and keep your personal stuff personal. The BM in our situation has used every tidbit of info about me and DH (true or not) against us at every turn. I read the letter that your "SD" sent, and it reeks of BM's PAS. You stand to gain NOTHING by interacting with BM. Don't be surprised if child services shows up, be prepared. Have everything (letters, texts, court docs, etc.) ready to go, because you will surely need it at some point.

Keep both of them at arm's length. I'm sure that you are sad that things are this way, as it's certainly not the way any SM envisions the step relations turning out. But you are dealing with a (certifiable) crazy BM, and a SD that gains her Mother's favor by sh*tting on you and DH. Watch your back. This is NOT GOOD. NO personal talks. I would be nervous to even have visits with SD. We learned the hard way, and it had cost us dearly. Don't let your lack of experience with bio kids make you think that this is normal, and you are just without a point of reference. This is NOT normal, and you and your DH are squarely in BM's crosshairs, simply because you are happy together, and she is jealous.

Rachel81's picture

I am definitely nerves of her visits to our home. I feel that she needs to earn our respect back before she comes into our home again. I also don't agree with meeting with BM because this is not her issue and her personality is what you described. Thanks for the advice!

Pook's picture

Is she still coming over for the weekend? It would be best if she DIDN'T until you had a chance to clear this up. She is obviously going to lie about everything anyway.

Clearly An Upgrade's picture

Also, just to clarify the "objectivity" of the "letter" from your SD...I have a bio daughter that is the same age as your SD, and the things contained in that letter are NOT normal speak for an 11 year old. BM is clearly behind ALL of this discord, and IMO, BM trying to "get everyone together to talk" is just her way of inserting herself into your personal stuff. Your SD is quickly learning that she can behave as crappy as she wants, and then MOTY will run to her aid in the fight against big bad dad and SM. How incredibly unhealthy. This is the beginning of the "it's us against them" mentality.

This is going to be a very difficult road for you, DH, and SD, as a unit. There will be NO unit to speak of if BM is allowing SD to choose not to visit, avoid being held responsible for her choices while with you and DH, and you guys are being made out to be "the problem". This is a ticking time bomb just waiting to explode into a sh*t storm of epic proportions. Your DH needs to clarify to his daughter that she will not have a parade and party waiting for her when she visits, that your lives do not revolve around her, and although it is lovely to see and spend time with her, you have to keep living your lives even when she's not there.

Feeling that SD needs to earn back your respect after throwing you both under the bus is a normal way of thinking. But you're not dealing with normal. I said the exact same thing to my SD on the phone after she broke some major house rules and disrespected our home life entirely. Next thing I know, the phone has been ripped put of SD's hands, and BM is screeching at me about "wanting to crucify" SD. The fact remains that DH and I had not yet gotten a chance to talk to SD about her transgressions at all, since SD ran straight off to BM and avoided us for months after. In an intact family, a child that breaks the rules usually doesn't have anywhere to run away to, and has to face the music, so to speak. Parents have the opportunity to actually parent, not sit sideline until SD feels like enough time has passed without contact for everyone to have "gotten over it". Your SD seems to have the same attitude around that as mine did...oh, that was ages ago, why are we still talking about THIS?, when the fact is, you and DH haven't had the chance to resolve anything with her, because BM has been shielding her, and encouraging SD to think that SHE is actually the victim, not the perpetrator of bad behavior.

This gets a whole lot worse as these girls get older. My SD doesn't speak to DH and I anymore because we're "so mean". Totally non-specific with her allegations, and all a fabrication, but with BM feeding into it, that is truly their reality. I'm sick to death of it all, and I'd be just fine at this point to be done with SD entirely, and even worse, DH feels the same, but with even more resolve than I. Where as I am still having a hard time coming to terms with SD's absence, and tend to ruminate on all of the details, DH admitted to me that he is happier without the drama SD and BM bring into our lives, and that she barely crosses his mind anymore. BM has succeeded in alienating her daughter's father to the point where he's happy to just pay support (which unfortunately in our state goes to age 21!! Wtf?!), and have that be the extent of his involvement. And if you knew my DH, saw the kind of father that he is with our two DD's, you'd be shocked that he could take that stance. This is an amazing, involved, loving father...but he's human, and BM has helped SD in finding his breaking point. SD will surely regret this someday, but I am done fighting for her relationship with her father. DH has a brain and heart of his own, and he decides how involved he wants to be with BM and SD's constant drama.

I could be wrong, and things may turn out okay for you guys. But this is so eerily similar, that our story just may be a glimpse into what your future will hold. In the meantime, just keep your guard up, and do what you need to in order to protect yourselves.

Rachel81's picture

Nope our situation sounds about the same. We had a talk with SD11 on thursday regardless of her wishes to talk with her mother present. We kept everything open and non bias and used no judgement. Talk went well and the 3 of us agreed we all have something to work on. The rest of the weekend we made sure that we listen to SD and made sure she had a fun weekend and paid close attention to anything that might upset her. We both care alot about her happiness. We also asked her if we can try all the things we talked about before we talk with BM. The weekend went great we got a big hug and kiss before SD left. Not even 5 mintues later DH got a text from BM saying "What part of not talking to Claire without me don't you understand" Right there she made it clear that she is using her daughter to insert herself into our lives. Alone with the comment from SD saying "mommy was wondering if you guys can come trick or treating with us so that SD has more time to trick or treat" Well that's not going to happen, but all these things are coming together like BM wants to be a part of our lives and she is using SD, to get to us. Which is really sad because SD is very vulnerable right now. I won't let this women into our lives. All she is is our SD BM and that's it. We have no connection. She has used us and minupulated us enough over the past 7 years. Now that we are married it's really not going to happen. Another things that came up that reminded me that her mother might still want or have feelings for DH was that we had this conversation about my husband not liking cotton balls and how I like terriorizing him with them. Well my SD said to our company that her mom use to chase daddy around with the cotton balls. Funny thing is that SD wasn't old enough to remember that when her parents are together and she has seen that happen with myself and BD, so why not say that SM and BD use to chase eachother with cotton balls. Just silly if you ask me.

Clearly An Upgrade's picture

If BM feels so so strongly that her daughter is in danger when she has a conversation with her father and SM, she should go get a restraining order and file for supervised visitations. Otherwise, she needs to STFU!! This is ludicrous behavior, and yes, she is definitely trying to insert herself into SD's relationship with the two of you. No court in the world is going to take issue with a father having a private conversation with his daughter without BM present. That request is dumb as shit.

BM over here has done and said very similar things, and over the years has convinced SD that anytime DH or I want to "talk" to SD, that we are abusing her. Now anything that requires talking (like, you know, a relationship?) is perceived by SD as an "abusive lecture". I'm so fucking over this crap. All this has done is created a dynamic where SD never has to be held accountable for anything she does, and BM is right there consoling the "poor abused" child. Give me a break.

I don't really have any advice, because clearly things have not turned out well for us. I don't know why BM has such control over SD...maybe she chipped her brain and has a remote control device somewhere. All I know is that this crap has gotten exponetially worse as each year has gone by, and I am starting to feel quite comfortable not having SD in our lives at all. She and BM bring nothing but drama and stress, and frankly, DH never stood a chance at being able to be a "father" to SD anyway. Even with piles of information showing the contrary, SD believes BM when she plays the victim single mother "your father is a deadbeat" card, and if SD is going to be that f'ing gullible and stupid to believe that crock of shit, then they deserve each other. Both of them can just simmer in their sick ass sauce.

Rachel81's picture

I couldn't agree more with you comment! Thank you for helping me feel normal. Damn Crazy ass BM's