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LMR120's picture

Question for you step parents on here. How many of you take care of your partners kids when they arent around? I see a lot of blogs on here talking about all the things that you guys do for your hubby and his BM when it comes to the kids and i dont understand why. I have a BF with two kids and they are not at the house unless he is. If he has to work late then he calls BM and tells her he will not be able to take the kids. I dont go get them for him. If he goes out of town for business i do not continue with the set visitation schedule. I do not take them to anything i.e. sports, Appts or school. I am the same way with my daughter. If i have something going on and i cant get away to get my child i dont call BF and ask him to do it i call her father. So i guess what i am getting at is why do you all help out so much? It is the Mother and Fathers job to ensure they are taken care of not yours.

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BMJen's picture

I guess it just depends on what kind of situation you are in. I help my DH anytime and he helps me. My son lives with us and I swear DH has taken him to the doctor more since we've been together than I have. He's great........I never had anyone to lean on like this before my DH came along. My x lives two states up now, but up until last year he lived on the other side of the country. So, he isn't around to help at all.

And I do what I can for his kids because I love them, and him! I think of us all as a family.........all of us together is what makes it up. I also consider BM a part of my extended family. What ever happens to her will directly effect my step daughter, which will affect my husband, which will affect me, my daughter, my son, etc. It's just alot easier to me to love and love alike! Wink

Of course, the BM we deal with isn't crazy.........anymore! Smile

"If you don’t adapt and look within yourself, you’ll just keep wading in that stagnant poisonous pool of stepparent hell." author: BitchBitchBarbie

LMR120's picture

I guess I can see that. Both my ex and BF ex live in the same town so they are around to be involved with the kids ya know? I just refuse to deal with his BM at all. I treat the kids like they are my own when they are around but the way i look at it is yes they are part of my family but they arent at my house to see me they are there to spend time with him and if he isnt there then they arent. Maybe that will change when they are older and can ask to come over when BF isnt there. IDK. Thanks for the response.

DISbelief's picture

I am with JEN on this... we function as a FAMILY. When it is DH's time with SS we make sure he is taken care of whatever the needs are. And same goes for my kids. We love each others kids, and would do anything for them. BM has NO problem calling me and asking if I can pick SS up on her days as well if need be. He has 3 parents... and they are all very comfortable with that. I don't think it works for everyone, but it works for us. The kids were one year old when DH and I moved in together. I want them to feel like each house is their HOME, and not that they are only allowed there if their DAD is there (or me with my girls). How at home can you feel if you aren't allowed to be there without your dad?? I also think it depends on the custody split. We have 50/50. And I wouldn't have it any other way!

DISbelief~

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LMR120's picture

They obvioulsy arent told that they cant come over because their dad isnt there. He works for the military so if he has to go out of town then he tells them that he is going to be gone for a while and that he will see them when he gets back. We dont have true 50/50 he has every other weekend and every Wednesday night.

DISbelief's picture

Well, I would hope no one would actually TELL a child that. But kids are smart, I was never TOLD that I couldn't live with my dad when I was younger, but because I didn't have a bedroom there, I figured it out.

I can see your point of "they are there to see their dad"... I just have never viewed it that way for us. If DH is at work, I still keep SS. As we speak DH is home with SS and my 2 BD's because I have to work until 5. It is just what works for us I suppose. Not that it is the RIGHT way... it is just our way Smile

DISbelief~

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Rags's picture

He lives with us so of course I take care of my Wife's (My) Son. Whether a near full time resident or on a visitation schedule the home is the Skids home also and I personally believe the Skid should feel that the home is there home too.

Not to say that compliance with house rules, contributing to chores, respectful interpersonal behavior and basic mutual respect does not apply. It absolutely applies and the Skids should be required to be 100% compliant with these superordinate principles whether the BioParent is home or not.

Just my thoughts of course.

Best regards,

Success is rarely final. Failure is rarely fatal. It is character, courage and consistency of effort that count. Vince Lombardi (with some minor Rags modifications) To each according to their performance, screw Karl Marx. (Rags)

DISbelief's picture

EXACTLY! As I always say, I never want any child to feel like a "stepchild" in their own home!

DISbelief~

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Rags's picture

Our descriptive title is Step PARENT, so I parent. I am his Dad and he is my Son. The accident of his genetics are not his fault nor mine.

Best regards,

Success is rarely final. Failure is rarely fatal. It is character, courage and consistency of effort that count. Vince Lombardi (with some minor Rags modifications) To each according to their performance, screw Karl Marx. (Rags)

DISbelief's picture

I like that, and I totally agree. SS is my SON and he knows I am one of his PARENTS. He needs to know that I love him and would do anything for him, just as my BD's. I think he gets it... I think.

DISbelief~

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notmyfirstrodeo's picture

Amen Rags!!!! When you take on a relationship with someone who has kids, you take on the kids. Those kids become your family!! And even though it may take time to develop a bond, if you don't spend quality time with them, that bond will never happen!!!

LMR120's picture

They arent treated like stepchildren. I guess I just feel like they arent there to see me they are there to spend time with him so if he isnt there why would they want to come spend time with me? Mind you both children are under the age of 5 so it just seems normal to me right now that if BF isnt around then BM has them. As i said earlier when they get older they would be more than welcome to come over even if there father is gone because as you said before it is there house also and they have been told that so i know they know that they have two homes.

Rags's picture

As it should be IMHO. I have no other experience but being his full time Dad. His Mom and I met and started dating when he was ~15mos old. He has had regular though limited time with BioDad and spends nearly all of his scheduled visitation (~8wks/yr split Summer, Winter, Spring) with SpermGrandMa who raises my SS's three out-of-wedlock half sibs by two other mothers. My SS is the oldest of four out-of-wedlock spawn of the SpermIdiot and an only child in our family.

I have always helped schlep him around and am the "DAD" that has coached his sports teams, taught him to use the toilet, read, write, ride his bike, drive a car, gone to parent teacher conferences, concerts, football games, chaperoned dances and extracurricular clubs and trips .........

If you and BF choose to have you start participating in these activities, great. If you choose to wait until the kids are older I think that is Okay too.

IMHO of course.

Best regards,

Success is rarely final. Failure is rarely fatal. It is character, courage and consistency of effort that count. Vince Lombardi (with some minor Rags modifications) To each according to their performance, screw Karl Marx. (Rags)

Queenofdenial's picture

I'am the main caregiver for my SD7, always have been. It works for us. My hubby and I have 2 children together. So it just makes sense for sd7 to be with her only siblings

luckykell's picture

We have Scooty 12 days/ month...almost 50/50 time wise. I'm never 'asked' to watch her by myself, but I do. I do it b/c I want to spend time with her, and she wants to spend time with me. Neither mom nor dad have a problem with this, so why not?

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LMR120's picture

Hmmm from what Im reading it sounds like most of you have a better visitation schedule than my BF. His kids have their own rooms in our house and are treated with love and respect when they are there. I guess they just arent there enough. Also, his BM and I have no relationship (she doesnt like me)so maybe thats where it is different. I dont think she would be ok with me having the kids if BF was gone. Of course if she ever called and said she needed help with something of course I would help out Im just not part of her support system, so when the BF is gone she has other people to help her out.

DISbelief's picture

Does BF WANT more time with them?

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LMR120's picture

Yes they just got done with a 2 year custody battle where he wanted as much time with them and BM got and things seemed to be going in that directions but the judge that heard the whold case retired at the end of it and a new judge took over and said that he got EOW and Wednesday nights, every other holliday and two weeks in the summer. He was devestated. He was in the military and i think that got used against him. Meaning i think the court thought he wasnt stable as a parent.

DISbelief's picture

Where you around when all of this happened. Maybe if you started playing a more active role in the kids lives, you could use that as a way to show a stable home for these kids. If you HAVEN'T been helping and keeping the kids while he was gone on duty, then I could see how a judge would see it as "who will care for the kids during his time, if he IS deployed". Not that I agree with the judge, but if it is always put back in BM's lap to cover his time, then SHOULD he be granted MORE... Have you considered changing this for sake of him being able to get more time with them?? He needs a support system to help him with his kids too... ? Just a thought of course!

DISbelief~

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hismineandours's picture

Noo-the judges don't look kindly on stepparents who are doing the parenting while the bio parents aren;t. The person who will care for the kids when he is deployed is their MOTHER. my ss lived with us for 7 years-I was his primary parent and dh worked out of town and also had a year long deployment-ss actually stayed with me during deployment. All this involvment and support that I offered backfired horribly and now ss wont even speak to me. He wanted out of our house so bad that he threatened to kill my son so i would hate him and let him live with his mom (like it was even my decision)-now we have him eow-if dh isnt here ss doesnt come. Kids deserve to be parented by their bio parents if at all possible. I realize in some cases this is not possible, and I applaud all those who step in when bio parents are out of the pic-but if you are stepping in when there are already two capable parents to do the job I think you are making a mistake and taking an opportunity away from the children to be parented by their actual parents.

DISbelief's picture

With that background, I can understand your perspective completely! Maybe our judge had been a step parent before.. I don't know but he liked that I was there for the kids when DH was not. I think it varies.

DISbelief~

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DISbelief's picture

---------------> I think you are making a mistake and taking an opportunity away from the children to be parented by their actual parents.

I do have to disagree with this statement though. I am one of his parents... step or not, PARENT I am! To each his own though!

DISbelief~

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LMR120's picture

See I agree with you ... if there mother is around and there father is not why on earth would they be with me.

LMR120's picture

We were told it wouldnt matter that he was active duty because she is a reservist and could be activated at any point so she is in the same boat as him she just hasnt left as many times as him. Also, he and I are not married so it wouldnt matter about me being able to take them while he is gone according to the courts I have no legal rights to the kids (of course) but you know what i mean im not his "wife" so ...????

hismineandours's picture

It wouldnt matter if you were his wife or not-stepparents don't have any legal rights. And yes, I get the whole stepparent-i'm a parent too thing-but it truly isnt the same. are godparents, foster parents, house parents, fill in the blank parents all the same? I am not saying that these folks cant play an important role in a child's life but they still do not replace the biological parent and in an ideal situation a child should be parented by their bio parents. I totally agree with you-why should you take care of his kids while he is gone? The kids are young I am sure they would rather be with their mom.

LMR120's picture

Man I guess I might be done with posting blogs i didnt think asking why some SP are so invloved would turn into i dont like my skids and my BF runs to his BM and blah blah blah geezz

Bradybunchmom's picture

I am the main care giver for all seven of ourkids. Fiance works long hours. Skids often sk me for things even when he is here, because I am usually the one that meets those needs. We however have full custody and the skids see their mom maybe 4 days out of a year IF that.

DISbelief's picture

That is SAD... where is she??

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Bradybunchmom's picture

Off leading her own life. She has always just took off and cheated. Finally the last time he found out she was cheating and she took off, he decided he was done taking her back and fought for custody. He won because she didn't show up. And even now never shows up to visit.

DISbelief's picture

What a shame...

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Snowflake's picture

I was talking about this with my mother. She seems to expect that I would expect to take care of them. Because I knew that he had kids. Well I do not subscribe to that theory. I would never ask him to take care of my kids, they don't come here to see him, they come here to see me.

Like today, he was supposed to pick them up early and then he was supposed to go back to work. Well his fat ass wife didn't have to work today. Why should I have to watch his kids while she sits on her royal fat ass?

His dumb ass can't talk to her royal bitchness and he just bows down and takes it like a prison boy toy. I am sorry if I am getting graphic here, but I am just a tad bit ticked here.

Stick's picture

LMR - My husband travels for work and is gone for weeks at a time. While he is gone, his daughter lives with me. She barely sees her mom.

I do it for him - because I do love him so much. I do it because he gave up so much of his life and curbed his career prior to meeting me, that I just wanted to be able to give him some support.

I do it for SD - because she needs more love and stability than BM can provide. We are changing her life. I hope for the better.

I don't do it at all for BM. I could give a flying f*ck about her right about now. I don't care if she likes it or not. She is not a good parent to this child, so I don't do it for her.

It's not about "his" child. It's about supporting my husband. And I can tell you that by doing so, SD and my relationship has grown beyond anything I could have hoped for. And that my marriage, I believe, is stronger. My husband honors me and treats me wonderfully.

I think, in your case, the only thing you have to determine, is would it help you? Would it help your husband? And would it help your stepchildren to grow a little better?

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DISbelief's picture

****CLAPPING***** I completely agree with all of this.

DISbelief~

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Stick's picture

Thanks Dis!

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Rags's picture

Stick,

Would you and DH want to hang out with my Wife and I sometime? I think we would have a lot of fun and become great friends. We can dump the Skids in front of a game console with a gallon of Mt Dew and go out for wine, cheese and some gourmet conspicuous consumption. My SS is 17 and is completely trustworthy as a sitter as long as you don't ask him to clean the kitchen and the price is right ...... FREE! Wink

I like your description of your relationship.

Best regards,

Success is rarely final. Failure is rarely fatal. It is character, courage and consistency of effort that count. Vince Lombardi (with some minor Rags modifications) To each according to their performance, screw Karl Marx. (Rags)

Stick's picture

Rags - How fun would that be?!! I will tell you - when I start to tour again - and hopefully that will be with DH - then I will definitely be looking up some ST friends! It just may take a year!

The only concern I have is that your SS is 17 and my SD is 16. I would worry about how they "sit" each other!! Wink But she is a good girl... and your SS sounds like a nice young man... OHhh I'll play Yenta now!

thanks!!

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Rags's picture

Stick,

Normally I would balk at leaving a 17yo boy and a 16yo girl alone together. However, between you SD's character and my SS's and being great kids and a true young gentleman and young lady I think it would be reasonably safe. More importantly for the purposes of this conversation ........ SS has no clue what his "special purpose" is for. He likes girls but is the most uninterested being from a sexual perspective I have ever seen. Even the Therapists we have had him talk with have said he is amazingly intelligent, a solid person,and incredibly uninterested in sex at this stage of his life.

I think he has some form of built in (lack of) maturity based birth control. And his Mom has been a great example what not to do (16yo single teen mom) and how to move beyond a bad decision and be a success. He knows that if he makes her a GrandMother before she is 45 he is dead. She may let him live if he waits until she is 40.

That and every time he leaves the house with his friends we make him repeat one of our parental mantras. "No glove, no love." Wink

Best regards,

Success is rarely final. Failure is rarely fatal. It is character, courage and consistency of effort that count. Vince Lombardi (with some minor Rags modifications) To each according to their performance, screw Karl Marx. (Rags)

Wicked.Step.Monster's picture

LOL! Rags I tell Perfectson the SAME THING! Hahahah! I also say "keep it in your britches even if it itches" LOL!

Rags's picture

WSM,

During a co-ed camping trip that I chaperoned for my Son and the rest of the band geeks I laid out the rules right before the sun went down each night.

"Ladies and gentlemen can I have your attention please! Keep the peckers in the pants and and the labia in leotards."

My Son was mortified but it got the point across to both genders.

Best regards,

Success is rarely final. Failure is rarely fatal. It is character, courage and consistency of effort that count. Vince Lombardi (with some minor Rags modifications) To each according to their performance, screw Karl Marx. (Rags)

Wicked.Step.Monster's picture

We only have EOWE and standard summer/holiday breaks now that BM moved an hour and a half away from us but I've never once thought about NOT having the girls for visitation whether DH is here or not! I love them sooooo much and I have a blast with them..... DH jokes that its really me with visitation and not him because I'm so close with them. DH is often on call and has to leave while they're here but it truly never crossed my mind not to keep them anyway. We are a family... they have their own rooms here and when they're here I parent them (albeit very leniently haha!) I wouldn't want it any other way! I pick them up EOWE because its convenient for me to do it and I often take them back if DH can't. I also sometimes go pick them up from BMs on off weekends just to go to the movies or whatever... just us girls.... I love them and i take every second with them I can get!

Rags's picture

Freeze,

ABSO-FRICKIN-LUTELY!!!!! I have always maintained that when I proposed to my wife I not only agreed to be her husband but to be the Skids Dad. I have worked very hard to live up to both commitments.

Good for you and congrats on a great family.

Best regards,

Success is rarely final. Failure is rarely fatal. It is character, courage and consistency of effort that count. Vince Lombardi (with some minor Rags modifications) To each according to their performance, screw Karl Marx. (Rags)

DISbelief's picture

We actually worked this into our wedding ceremony. All 5 of us joined in a "sand ceremony". Kind of like the traditional "unity candle" but with sand. We each had a color and we poured them into a glass vase intertwining all 5 colors, thus symbolizing the unity of our family. It was awesome, and not a dry eye in the house. As we did this my sister (who officiate the ceremony) explained to the congrgation the importance that DH and I have instilled in the kids that we are a family, blood or not, we are ONE in the Eyes of God. It was amazing. I got a lot of compliments about this. We also dedicated our kids. They were all dedicated when they were born, but our tradition is to commit to raising our kids to be Christ like, and they were REdedicated under this household as we are commited to teaching them the ways of The Lord.

DISbelief~

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DISbelief's picture

This was both of our second wedding. I WASTED a ton of money on the first one... YES I said WASTED. DH and I did ours in our back yard, poolside. The wedding party was us, and the kids... friends and family. Open bar of course... lots of dancing and SOOO much fun. The kids still ask when we are going to do it again. (they don't quite get it)...

DISbelief~

~You have to BE crazy to UNDERSTAND crazy!~ Wink

DISbelief's picture

Oh trust me, my mom and I have this debate ALL of the time. Just because I enjoy a cocktail does NOT mean that I am less a Christian.

DISbelief~

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Stick's picture

Ms. Freeze / Dis - I love hearing about how people incorporate their kids / skids into their wedding.

In ours, we had SD walk DH up the aisle. So, first we had each groomsman / maid walk up together... then SD and her dad... where she took her place by the Pastor.. and DH at the aisle. And then my dad and I walked up.

After our vows, when we walked back down the aisle, it was SD, me, DH. And when they introduced the wedding party to the reception, we were introduced as the X Family.

Also, for my father / daughter dance... We chose Sunrise, Sunset. So DH and SD started out the dance as it talked about a little girl. Our version had a lyric that said, Now, this little boy is a bridegroom, now this little girl is a bride.... that's when my father and I came out and danced...

It still makes me tear up!! Smile

Cheers ladies!

DISbelief's picture

Oh yeah... you have to announce the NEW FAMILY! Awesome!

DISbelief~

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Rags's picture

Rags wedding Stats:

Wedding #1 $25,000.00 (in 1988 dollars). 2.5yrs of marriage. Wedding party of 10, 500 guests and the social event of the season. Wedding was in a Cathedral. Her side was packed with standing room only. My side had three and a half rows of people and several dozen empty rows. Huge catered reception with live band. It was beautiful but definitely not me.

Wedding #2: $500.00 15yrs and counting. Wedding party of 3 (Wife, Myself and our Son (My SS)), 7 guests. Loves Lake Tahoe Wedding Chapel. Dinner after the ceremony and an all night party including a show in Reno. Several couple married that were seated together at the show (Splash). We all ended up partying all night and the Hilton ended up moving us all to the penthouse because we were disturbing other guests. Several of us (couples) still get together periodically on our anniversary(s). It was a blast.

Do the analysis. It is not the size of the wedding but the strength of the commitment that counts.

Best regards,

Success is rarely final. Failure is rarely fatal. It is character, courage and consistency of effort that count. Vince Lombardi (with some minor Rags modifications) To each according to their performance, screw Karl Marx. (Rags)

DoingItAgain's picture

Ooh we did the sand ceremony too! But we did a base of purple sand that was to represent God as our foundation and then we each (all 5 of us) poured our sand on top. It was awesome.

soverysad's picture

I'm stuck with the little demon when DH has to go to a client or meetings. He asked me if this was acceptable in the beginning and he appreciates it. I have no problem with it as I work only part-time and usually from home and quite frankly he is contributing more financially to our lives then I am and needs his job so he can give his "first family" $3500 a month. He tries to either work from home or be home in time to get her off the bus most of the time, but this is a busy time for him, so it is getting dumped on me more and more recently. My anger stems from the fact that he now has me taking care of the little demon on evenings and / or mornings when she SHOULD be with her mother but her mother decided to work in the evening instead of during the day. If I decided to NOT take care of her while he works, we'd have to pay for before and after school care, which would cost us a small fortune in addition to the ridiculous amount of money he gives that gold-digging, lying, lazy, worthless shit he used to share his bed with. I loathe having to take care of her especially on days when her mother SHOULD be doing it. Maybe I'd be okay with it if she weren't getting child support. We're SAVING her babysitting money AND we're paying her. It is extortion.

"God is great, beer is good, and people are crazy" and you can't change crazy!!

smnikki's picture

well for your situation that sounds like it works...and in theroy maybe it sounds logical to il,eliminate issues and feeling like you have the right to an opinion because you contribute equally to the childs up bringing....i think thats where a lot of bm/sm issues come from. the sm does just as much as bm...bm is threatened and tried to make sure sm knows that she is not the mother...sm isnt an idiot and knows that, just wants to be respected because she does do things for skid in her home..etc

for us, we have 50/50..and bm is a pathetic nut case, I DO NOT want her calling my husband every time she needs help with something...just as when dh needs something, he has ME his wife to do things for him...if he was going to lean on his ex for the rest of his life he might as well have stayed married to her.

also, this would create issues for us because, the only thing that keeps things in line is that her time is her time and our is ours...the other parent does not constantly need to be involved..i think thats confusing to the kid...and diminishes the importance of the sm in the childs life....for you with eow thats not important, and since dh is always there when they are, you are never really left to be the disciplinarian that they have to respect.

i guess it all depends on what you are willing to have in your life. for me i am not willing to have dh call bm everytime our schedule changes or whatever and we need to adjust...i would rather have time with ss so we can bond, and i would rather be the one that my husband calls first for anything..including his son. for me it is important that ss does know im equally involved and he knows im active and care just as much about his life as his parents do. For me it is also VERY important that he knows that dh doesnt run to bm everytime for anything regaurding him. I am his wife and we are a family unit that does not depend on bm....i think this is a very dangerous issue when the skid thinks that they have the power to create issues that bring bm and your dh together...to me, skid needs to know that matter in your home are dealt with your family, and bm does not have a say

LMR120's picture

WoW! I have a right to an opinion with anyone in my house especially children. I did not say that i was not involved with them when they are here. We have a great time together and we have house rules that all three children must follow. I contribute more than equally when the children are here. Maybe I didnt word my blog correctly because it seems as though some people took it as I have nothing to do with them because they arent mine and that is not the case at all. My boyfriends BM does not call him everytime she needs something and he doesnt call her anytime he needs anything. The only time they call each other is about the kids and if one of them is going out of town or working late. How is BF talked to his childrens mother about time share him leaning on his ex????? Is that called co-parenting??? I thought thats what it was but I could be wrong. My BF doesnt run to BM about everything and anything regarding HIM he calls her or txt her when he isnt availble to get THEIR children. Man ... maybe i should have kept my thoughts to myself. I posted this blog because I have read countless blogs about how SM does this and that for SKIDS and DH and BM dont appreciate it or get mad about it so i was wondering why people even do it but all ive seen on here is how everyone loves their SKIDS so much and wouldnt have it any other way blah blah blah then why are you on step talk if thats the case????

Wicked.Step.Monster's picture

I'm on ST because of issues with BM.... not because of my SDs! There are LOTS of different reasons to be here besides not liking your skids! Wow! You make it sound like its a bad thing to love your skids..... that's just sad to me!

DoingItAgain's picture

LMR120, I agree with you. A child should, in theory, be parented by either bio parent FIRST (meaning the bio-parent should be present - not just the child in the home of bio-parent!) Now, if the child has a sucky BM, and you want to be 'good mom' to this child, I see no problem taking on the role. But if BM was a good mom and DH wasn't available for long periods of time? I'm not talking a couple hours a day or an occasional Saturday he has to work but if it's consistent, I would suggest the child be with their BM if possible. Again, I'm not talking about a pyscho BM or going to an environment that only makes the child worse when they comes home. A normal BM.

I think this has been a sore subject with my DH regarding my BS... If I'm going to be gone for an extended period of time, I first consider sending my son to his dads. This hurts DHs feelings because he thinks I should leave him home with him. I'm not trying to keep them from having a relationship but the priority needs to be the bio-parent - again, this assumes that the bio-parent is relatively normal. Also, the bio-dad in my case has first right of refusal so I need to be careful with that. Hey, I wish the bio-dad would drop off the face of the earth and I didn't have to deal with him and DH could be my sons only dad but until that happens...

Stick's picture

LMR - didn't you read my answer? And Rags' and DisBelief's? You asked why a stepparent does this and that for the skids. And if we watch them when the SO is away for a length of time.

What is wrong with the answer that we do it for the love our spouse? And that we married into family and not just a person?

What is wrong with expressing that?

I'm on ST because my SD has had some emotional issues, it was a HUGE adjustment for me to move into her school district so she could come live with us. It was an even bigger adjustment for me to temporarily give up my career so that either DH or I could stay home because BM is not a fit mother for her. DH, SD's counselors and I would all be seriously concerned with SD's mental health if she stayed with her mom. The BM over here definitely has a personality disorder. I'm just not sure which one it is ! Ha!

And yet... the answer is... I do it for love of my husband. And because he is the best man I have ever met and deserves some help and support. Not just the constant strain of a wife that only wants a hand-out, and her effect on his daughter. He can only do so much. I love him and want to be there for him.

And again..... Why is that not a satisfactory answer? What exactly were you looking for?

What don't we understand?

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LMR120's picture

Maybe go back and read some of the answers ... As i said before there are a lot of post on here about being "stuck" with skids so the post was asking why some people dont send the skids back with the Bio parent. Then i get the well i take my skids because i love my husband making it sound like i dont take my skids because i dont love my BF enough. Maybe its just how i took it. Yes BM is crazy but she also loves her kids. Doesnt parent them the same way i do my child but again they follow the rules i have set at my house when they are here. Sometimes thats an issue some times its not. IDK maybe i took some of the answers the wrong way but i dont think so. There were also some responses on here that because i am techinally a step parent then i need to step up and be a parent. Why when my skids have to very capible bio parents. I dont offer to watch the skids and neither bio parent asks. Again i have seen a lot of blogs about being stuck with skids so i was hoping those individuals would post and explain but all i got was the i watch my skids cause i love them. I never said there was anything wrong with that i love mine too but when BF is gone they dont come here. Not because i dont want them too but because the BM is in the picture and lives 10 min away. Did i make sense that time with why i felt like my situation was being put down or why i took it like people were saying i was doing something wrong? IDK im not very good with typing my feeling. I talk better Smile

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i think that you mis understood.....i understand why you do things that way in you home...i even mentioned that an issues in mine because we have 50/50 does not apply for you because bf is always around...you asked for responses why we do in our particular situations...and i was saying why i feel the way i do and why i take care of ss so much. in 50/50 there is no extended time periods, therefore, we dont have that issue, and if we did than no doubt ss would be with bm, but i would hope that dh would arrange that ss would at least see me once every other week for dinner or something, so i didnt feel like i had a stranger coming over when dh got back...kids grow so fast and change so much, i couldnt imagine going a whole deployment with out seeing ss, i know that even when he is with bm for 5 days, he brings me things from her house and squeezes me and tells me that he missed me so much. he is my shadow for at least two hours when i get him from day care after being with bm for 5 days if i leave the room he is in he will yell to me, love you smnikki!!...i pick him up early because i dont work monday and dh does.

i think that for me, if ss and i only had a relationship when dh was here, and when he was in our home..we would not be so close, and i treasure our time as i know and other know ss does too!

in referring to if bf is working late and he has bm pick up ss till he is off, and its his custodial time, i was just telling you my honest opinion that i feel calling bm to watch him rather than you if you are availible to me is not the right thing...i think that durring his custodial time he should not have bm doing that, its his time and his family "you" should work together to take care of him.....but thats because in our situation it would lead to problems because bm is a nut and dh tries to see her never face to face and we do exchanges through day care....but like i said thats the way WE have to do things because of her irrational jealous behavior.

for us co-parenting is not an option, unless bm feels like it, and its on her terms which will change any time she feels like it to fit her needs or to fit her mood.

i do things for my dh, to help him. not bm. i do not like that bm does not respect me as ss's sm, and i hate that she expects me to do things when she gives me no credit if i do, but what it comes down to is that ss knows that im there for them, dh loves and cherishes that he knows if he needs things taken care of i handle it for him. and in the big picture, why would bm like me or give me credit? i have everything she wishes, and has ever wanted! so could care less in the big picture what the hell she thinks! im a great sm, amazing wife, those are the people who matter not a peice of shit bm who cant get her own shit together for her own childs sake! in OUR case, bm and dh have as little contact as possible because bm creats an environment where "co-parenting is not possible"

also...maybe YOU dont know what this forum is for! step parenting brings many issues to the table..the skids, bm, in laws, relationship issues.........WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT ISSUES, and we all can help one another. for me, i have no issues with the skid, but i do have issues with the crazy bm and satan(mil) that becomming a step parent brought in to my life!

Catlover's picture

I admit that I have been one of those who has posted in the past about feeling "stuck" with the kids. I am the primary caregiver to my two Skids (9 and 12) whom we have 50/50 on an every other day schedule. BM, SD and DH all have jobs that require them to be gone for days on end and I am by default the "responsible one". I want to clarify that I enjoy spending time with my skids, and I love them very much. I think that some of my frustration (and I don't feel that way ALL the time) comes from the fact that there is a fundamental double standard in place. When Dad and BM are gone, I am the "parent", but yet I historically have been told by BM that I have no say in planning the skids activities (which I will ultimately have to coordinate/transport etc). She signs them up for things on our days and DH is gone...so voila! I am having to be BM's glorified babysitter while she and DH are working. The skids as well (particularly SS) have had me do all the leg work on a school project, activity etc. only to then have BM be the one to show up at school to "be the parent." I have had many long talks with DH about this, and I believe that he is coming around to see that it isn't that I don't want the kids here when he is gone....it is more that I want to be included and respected as a coparent.

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LMR120's picture

Thank you. For those who wanted to know what kind of answer i was looking for this is pretty close. So thank you for your response. It must be very frustrating to do all that for the skids just to be told you have no say. Im glad that your hubby is starting to see all that you do and that you do infact have a say in things and you should be heard.

Stick's picture

LMR - I read those and understand. And I can see how my response might be interpreted as "loving your husband enough".... that's not what I meant. In my way, I just took it as part and parcel of him. But also.. I very early on fought for "ALL IN" as well. So it was a natural progression for us. Also, we didn't start out trying to take SD from her mom. When I met DH, he had 50/50 joint custody and her mom had her every other day and every other weekend. It was just as SD got older that she started expressing an interest in living with us even more... and we had to take her to counseling to find out the full extent of all that has gone on. So I don't know if that adds more light to our particular situation.

I guess I was just wondering if you are thinking about it. And for you, if I understand correctly, I would again - ask those questions...

Will it help you?
Will it help your BF?
Will it help the SKIDS? and your relationship with them?

And then I would also add...

If you did - would BF support you in your decisions and back you up?

I believe a common misconception is that people may look at me and "hear" me saying that BM is an unfit mother... but the truth is... IF SHE WOULD just pull her weight... I would more than happy, and SD could possibly even be living with her (??) - don't know. But I also would still do the same things here as I have been. Does that make sense? I just think that if BM was more "real", we wouldn't have an issue. Sad

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LMR - I feel like my post yesterday prompted this. Sorry to put you in the line of fire. I feel "stuck" with SD at times. I don't mind stepping up for DH when he has to work long hours or be out of town. My issue is he agreed to take more time then court ordered with SD to "help" Wingnut out since she took a second shift job (because she is a suck mother). HE AGREED with my blessing months ago, but since then I've had a MAJOR life change and I don't want to do it anymore. Now I am stuck with this kids on nights when she shouldn't even be here. She should be with her mother. My problem is this: Tuesday nights and every other Friday and Sunday night, SD is here with us even though the court order says she should be with her mom. This keeps SD from being with baby sitters, but it also allows Wingnut to skirt her responsibility for child care (both finding it and paying for it), while still collecting a ridiculous amount of cs. In exchange DH often gives Wingnut our Saturdays and 1/2 our Sundays since she is off work and it gives SD time with her mother, which is probably good for her. This causes me problems for several reasons 1) We can't ever go anywhere for a weekend with or without SD because we have her every Friday until Saturday am and every Sunday from 2:45pm on - have to be here to drop her off and pick her up, can't take her because mommy has her on Saturday. 2) The first Tuesday of every month is a support group for parents who have lost an infant - dh can't attend with me because we have sd even though it is her mother's night. We could get a sitter, but why should WE pay for a sitter on WINGNUT's night? 3) On other Tuesdays / Fridays when dh can't be home from work, I have to arrange MY schedule to get SD off the bus. One of two things needs to happen - DH needs to let Wingnut know that this is no longer acceptable. I don't want to do it anymore. She can either get a sitter for her days and we take our weekends back (which dh doesn't want because sd shouldn't have to be with sitters when she can be at one of her homes) OR he can get the order modified giving her 3 Saturdays a month so we have one decent weekend and have cs reduced so we can afford a sitter on nights that are now ours.

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LMR120's picture

Its not just you that has posted it ... there are many many others. The post started off with a simple question of "If you dont want to do it then why are you doing it?" The i stated my home situation that works great for me. On come the "hes my huuby i wouldnt change a thing" "I love him thats why i do it" LOL wasnt even looking for the ones who like watching their skids to answer so now i know next time i have to be more clear in my blog. It seemed like i read all these post about people unhappy with having to watch the skids and then when i asked why they did it no one responded LOL Its all good you dont have to apologize you are not in control of what other people post. Smile

soverysad's picture

I've put out a schedule change for SD. I will no longer be watching her while DH works. Her mother will be. I worked it out so dh actually get more time with sd so he couldn't argue with me!!

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RustyHalo's picture

I always take care of the skids when FH isn't around. I don't mind it at all. I also encourage him to go play cards, shoot pool, or just spend some "guy" time with his friends if a call comes in on a night when we have the skids. This way, when a call comes in for me to go out and have "girl" time, I will have the freedom to leave the skids with FH and go. We never have a problem in this area. I told FH when I moved in that I was "ALL" in - for his skids and I expected the same from him in regards to my daughter. Things have worked out well.

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ChaiLatte's picture

With our current work schedules my SS is with me more hours during the day than his father. His mother isn't in the picture. Things don't always happen the way you imagine they will. I take care of my SS because my H needs me to. He wants his son to live with us full time, but he works and isn't able to to the various errands, appts. and such. So I do. I do it because I love my husband and want to make his life easier, even if it means making my life harder. His son being here is what he wants, so I'm not going to take that away from him by not giving him the help he needs. I'm not sure how things are going to work out once my work schedule changes and he has to expect less of me. I guess we'll see. You mentioned that the parents are supposed to take care of their children. I guess in his mind, having me here is his way of taking care of his child.

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happystepmomof3's picture

My husband has 3 daughters (13, 8, & 5). His oldest daughter lives with us full-time. The way I look at it is like this: she is his daughter; but we are a team. I do what I can, but when it boils down to it-- she is his primary responsibility. I love my sd very much. I fill in the gaps. She is very respectful to me and I am to her. I will be with my sd alone for two weeks while her dad is out of state for a training class. We have done two weeks before. So I expect things to go well. My concern is that my husband is in the Air National Guard. What if he gets called away for an extended period of time? Will my sd stay with me? Would she want to? (She has very bad relationship with her SF. And is the reason she moved in with us two years ago) Do I want her to?

But in the jist of all...I do help; but only if I want to. It is not expected/demanded by husband. And I on top of it all...now their BM and I have a very good relationship. She tells the girls how much she appreciates me and my relationship with them. In fact, not too long ago she told me that herself. We only communicate when necessary. I try to stay out of as much drama as possible. And things work very well. I'm not saying that there aren't any bumps on the road....but we get through them together.

kidsaplenty's picture

I don't take one any area in our lives and pardon that off as something I will not help dh with, especially something as important to both of us as our children. We took the time to make sure we are on the same page with that BEFORE getting married and that our priorities are the same. Now, given that, if he was going to be gone all weekend he would definitely see about them staying at home, but getting home late from work or having to work part a day and then he comes home and they are already here or I drive them somewhere I would absolutely do that. I also think for steparents that depise their kids and there are a bunch of problems other arrangements should be made.

misguided's picture

I am in the same situation LMR. I don't watch his kids when he isn't here and vice versa. There may be an exception once in awhile but not often. I think this helps the situation alot because even though I have issues I don't think the emotion is as strong because I don't invest as much in them. Like LMR I treat them well when they are here but I don't worry about their day to day life. I don't really cook, shop or clean for them. It eliminates alot of resentment. It actually makes the kids try harder to develop a relationship with me. They really like me to be around and if I go on a trip with them they are really excited. I have taken the roll of aunt more than mom and it works for us. I don't think I could do all the things alot of you do and not feel full time resentment. At the end of the day we all do what works best for us in our situation but I think if you have a choice to back off a bit I would. People, even kids want what they don't have including relationships. They may work a little harder if you arent doing all the work.

MsPerception's picture

I helped because I loved him and tolerated them no manners and all. I thought if I helped him more then we would have time together instead of him running all of the time, but to no avail. He now has no built in sitter and I sometimes go on random guilt trips especially when I hear about serious injuries they have suffered being "cared" for by dad.

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wishing upon a star's picture

LMR120's If this is working for you why not, you never know things might change if you get more involed - At least thats what happened to me... My hubbys ex does not like me but yet when she wanted to go out of town to party for the weekend and my hubby was working his 10 to 15 hour shifts she did give a crap. But I love my SD dearly so I would anyways, until BM sent me a text msg saying to stay out of their live and to let mommy and daddy raise them Now every time Hubby is wkin weekends they dont get to come over. AWWW .... I do feel bad for the little ones but the less I see the less iI hear from the BM.

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stepmom008's picture

I help BF when he asks for it, which isn't too often. I don't mind it at all b/c I know how stressed he is. His business isn't very consistent and there are times when he's so overwhelmed I think he wants to cry. I told him that he's not to ask Wilda for favors anymore. If he's working late or on a Saturday I'll pick SD9 up and bring her home or hang out with her on a weekend.

"There are two things over which you have complete dominion, authority, and control over - your mind and your mouth".