At 12 he should know better. When one of the dogs snaps he  will learn. My lab is a weirdo with touching so I get this.. Loves to be pet but if he's laying down or anything... only on his terms to cuddle. And he hates feet haha. 

Say "NO" and swat him with a rolled up newspaper every time he does it.

Kidding. But, i bet he would stop. 

Putting your face near an eating dog is incredibly dangerous. Eventually even the most even tempered, gentle, docile dog is going to snap. The risk of a facial bite is large. SS needs consequences when he does this.

for someone to get the message regardless of being told/taught otherwise. My cousin just a few years ago was around your SS's age and he jumped on our uncle's rottweiler while it was sleeping and on the side he has a bad eye. Guess what? The dog snapped and bit him and he needed stitches. My aunt was mad at our uncle and his dog, but I can't blame the dog or the owner because my cousin has been told MANY times not to do that. Plus it isn't his dog and he is used to his dog that is a Morkie, so much smaller of a dog. 

Guess what? My cousin no longer jumps on the dog or any dog anymore. Sucks it had to take stitches to his face for him to learn that, but he apparently did not learn from being told as much as he was.

Sooner would be better in this lesson.

IMHO

Your SS is acting very foolish and the sad thing is....when something does happen, the dog will be blamed and not your SS even though he WILL be the guilty party.

I've owned Doxies.....have a grand Doxie....and I volunteer in dog rescue. (Also two dogs at home). You NEVER put your face near a dog when they are eating.That is just asking to get bit. And if the dog is not a hugger, then hugging him puts him into stress mode. Just like humans, even nice dogs have their limits. Your SS is pushing his luck...actually the poor dog's luck.

You and your DH need to have the "tough love" talk with the kid. If your dog bites him, you could loose your dog. At best, the bite will be reported, the dog will have a "record" and any other incident, you could be forced to put the dog down. Not to mention the physical wounds your SS could have, even needing plastic surgery. How would he like his face destroyed??? Your SS NEEDS to KNOW THIS. And he NEEDS to stop. If the SS can't follow the rules with the dog, make consequences, like loosing gaming or phone priviliges for a certain time. But whatever you do, it needs to be forceful enough for your SS to get that you are not playing around with this issue.

Way too many dogs have "records" or have had to die because of idiot humans. SMH

As others have said even the sweetest of dogs will bite, particularly if someone is interfering with their eating.  If the dog bites him and SS needs stitches or medical care that bite will be reported to authorities. There can also be long lasting damage to your SS, both physical and emotional.  I was out walking on a spring evening two years ago and stopped to speak with a neighbor.  Her grandson and his ill behaved dog were with her.  The grandson let loose of the dog's lead and before grandma or I could react the dog jumped up and bite off most of my lower lip.  Unprovoked.  I have had to have multiple plastic/repair surgeries.  My lip is still numb and I can't do things like use a straw very well.  When I got to the ER the medical personnel were amazed at an adult in this situation. The preponderance of dog bites happen to kids.  The ER staff called and reported the bite and law enforcement showed up to take a report.  That was fun because I was covered in blood and couldn't really form any words.  Animal control was dispatched that night.  In order to keep the dog the owners had to agree to take the dog to a professional trainer & are required to use a specific type of restraint, no flexible leads.  If there is another incident the dog will be put down.  And they had to pay all my medical bills plus lost work time.  We are at abt $85K right now.  I can't imagine what happened to their homeowners insurance. It took me 18 months to feel comfortable enough to walk my neighborhood because there are so many dogs.  I am a dog lover, I have a dog.  But if a dog approaches me know I can feel my anxiety rising and I make sure I have my finger on the trigger of the bear spray I walk with now.  Please take this seriously don't let SS torment this dog any longer.

Well this reminds me of when SD10 (I believe she was 8, at the time) got bit by a dog my SIL was fostering. We had gone to visit SIL for the weekend and she had just gotten this dog to foster until she could find a good home for him. SD has like 3 dogs at her mom's house and one of them is even the same breed as this dog (a pitbull). SD has been around dogs her entire life and her pitbull is pretty territorial so she knows not to you know, get up in her face. Welp, you'd think that would carry over to this dog too. We were all relaxing, getting ready for bed, and I looked over at SD and she's about 2 inches from this dog's face and he up and bit her. I was just opening my mouth to say something, too but the dog beat me to it. I did not feel bad for SD, who then scream-cried while her dad consoled her. I felt bad for the dog, who was just telling her to back the heck off. DH and I both waited for her to calm down and then we told her it was her fault. She shouldn't have gotten in the face of that dog. It was a whole thing. She was lucky she walked away with a small bite mark on her lip because that dog could have ripped her lips off if he wanted to. 

Anyway... I think you're probably right and the new doggie probably won't hurt SS. And if he does, man have you warned him about it. A friend of mine had a little dachshund when I was in college and she was the best dog in the world. She later had to have dog physical therapy because of a slipped disc in her back. Poor thing. I hope the new dog works out!

THE MURDER OF LITTLE DOXIE: A HORROR MOVIE

Starring:

Daddy I. N. Denial as Mr. Sam Simpleton

Seeing Things as They Are as Mrs. Unsuspecting Stepmother

Innocent Doggie as Little Doxie

Evil-Ass Spawn as Wittle Johnny Could DO NO WRONG

And special guest star:

Evil-Ass Toxic HC-GU-BM as Ms. Wittle Johnny's Accusatory Mommy Dearest

This movie is based on a true story. The names and places have been changed to PROTECT THE GUILTY.

PLOT

A Bio-mom with an axe to grind goes on a rampage and is hell-bent on destroying her ex and his wife (psychologically, financially, and emotionally) after her toxic offspring sets up the defenseless, innocent family dog to be executed.

ACT ONE

Mr. Sam Simpleton and his bride, Mrs. Unsuspecting Stepmother, live in a decent home in a decent neighborhood. Their neighborhood highly regards Sam and Mrs. Unsuspecting. Their life is easy because they have discipline, have worked hard, and 'love' each other. But all this will change as they bring home a defenseless, loving little dog. [Insert all the good memories you have of your pet.] They saved the little girl, Little Doxie, from a kill shelter. After the little creature adjusts to a loving home, Little Doxie gives more love, compassion, and kindness back to Sam and Unsuspecting, as they give to her. [Insert all the good memories you have of your pet.] 

However, there will soon be trouble in paradise. After Sam's ex-wife gets drunk one too many times, Wittle Johnny (Sam's bio-son, age 10) (per court order)will stay with Sam and Unsuspecting Stepmother. However, Wittle Johnny felt it was more like a 'his holiday visit.' Why do I say 'visit'? 

Because Wittle Johnny, having absolutely NO RESPONSIBILITY all his life, views his Daddy's place as a hotel and himself as simply the VIP pampered guest. Wittle Johnny is resentful because his egg donor, Ms. Wittle Johnny's Mommy, don't live in such a good area due to Mommy Dearest not managing her life support, I mean child support, wisely. Instead of nutritious food and proper clothes for her son, Johny's Mommy spends most of the child support on herself: weekly nail appointments, hair appointments, and lash extensions appointments. Then there's her weekly alcohol bill from the local wine shop. Since he was old enough to understand, Wittle Johnny's Mommy Dearest told him that Sam and Unsuspecting Stepmother are 'living high on the hog' and 'it ain't fair, And Wittle Johhny has remembered it ever since! Wittle Johnny also remembered his Mommy Dearest saying, "...and, you don't have to listen or give respect to Unsuspecting Stepmother because she ain't your egg donor."

Wittle Johnny (who has never had any correction in his entire life) decides he knows best and starts to manhandle the dog and put his face in the dog's while the dog eats.

Sam the Simpleton sees no evil! However, Unsuspecting Stepmother is the only one who sees this as a 'bad' thing and becomes concerned about the skid's safety. She tells Sam Simpleton her concerns. Sam, in turn, runs to the bedroom and grabs his Rose-Colored Welding Goggles. As he places them on his face, he yells, "I see nothing! Wittle Johnny is (just) being friendly, and THAT DOG WILL NEVER HURT MY LITTLE SWEET INNOCENT CHILD! You need to stop, Unsuspecting – there's nothing to see here!

In the meantime, Wittle Johnny tells Ms. Wittle Johnny's Accusatory Mommy Dearest that his Daddy and evil-ass Stepmother (the B*t**) got a little doggie. And they aren't letting me PLAY WITH IT! BOO-HOO!

Ms. Wittle Johnny's Accusatory Mommy Dearest smiles evilly and says, "Oh, really!"

ACT TWO

Weeks pass, and Wittle Johnny keeps harassing the poor little Doxie daily. Wittle Johnny has noticed that every time he puts his face down in the dog's – his father, Sam Simpleton (who is wearing his Rose-Colored Welding Goggles all the time now), gets into confrontations and fights with Unsuspecting Stepmother – because she sees danger in places he doesn't.

"Sam, please tell your son to not put his face down where the dog eats – it's dangerous!"

Rose-Colored Welding Goggles toting Sam runs headlong into the wall, as he says with complete conviction, "My son is doing NOTHING WRONG – YOU DON'T LIKE MY SON and won't share your animal with him!"

Turning to Wittle Johnny, Unsuspecting Stepmother tries to talk some sense into the skid since she realizes her husband is irrational, 

"Wittle Johnny, please don't put your face down when the dog eats her food – she might snap at you."

Since the age of five or six, Wittle Johnny, character disordered, has learned how to escalate the drama – and so Wittle Johnny starts, with full force, with his best crocodile tears wailing like someone is murdering him. Oh, how he hates his step-monster! 

Sam Simpleton sees his poor Wittle Johnny's hurting. So, Sam Simpleton puts his Captain-Save-A-Failed-Spawn cape on. Zooming to the rescue, unfortunately, Sam trips over the coffee table because he can't see through his goggles, and his cloak covers his head. 

Which evil Wittle Johnny loves! 

Wittle Johnny is drunk on the power he has over his idiot adult servants; I mean, his bio-Daddeee and that b*t** his sperm donor has married. 

Wittle Johnny decides he's going to keep it up and possibly escalate!

Smiling to himself, he looks up, then falls to the ground kicking and screaming with the most giant crocodile tears he could muster. 

Sam Simpleton pulls his cape from his head, still sporting his Rose-Colored Welding Goggles on, and gets up to get to his sniveling son -but then he trips over a chair when he trips over his cape.  

Out of frustration, Sam punches Unsuspecting Stepmother and comforts his poor Wittle Johnny. Wittle Johnny can go to the kitchen and get a cookie to reward his performance. Sam verbally abuses Unsuspecting Stepmother as Unsuspecting Stepmother wonders how she got into this StepHell.

Alone in the kitchen with Doxie, Wittle Johnny puts his face down where the dog is and tries something he never did before. He reaches over and pulls the dog's bowl towards him while (at the same time) he pulls the dog's tail as hard as he can. 

In pain and suffering, Little Doxie finally snaps. 

ACT THREE

Unsuspecting Stepmother (sporting a black eye) MUST DRIVE Sam (who is STILL wearing his Rose-Colored welding goggles), holding Wittle Johnny's face wrapped in a towel. Wittle Johnny wails REAL tears and cries of pain. Blood runs down his face and the front of his shirt, screaming like a banshee, fighting, and punching his father with all his might. 

'IT'S HER FAULT, DADDY, FOR LETTING THAT ANIMAL HURT ME - DADDDDEEEEE! 

As the doctors screw Wittle Johnny's face up, who is a little ball of anger, Wittle Johnny keeps screaming THE DOG ATTACKED ME, THE DOG ATTACKED ME, THE DOG….. After three hours of Wittle Johnny's tirade, the hospital staff all see Wittle Johnny for what he really is – a little shit-nose brat!

[Drum roll and exciting music start as...] The decisive moment has arrived - Sam Simpleton must text his ex-wife and report what happened. 

Here's where the countdown and the old – one-thang-leads-to-another plays out: 

Sam: Lavene, we are at North-end Hospital. Wittle Johnny injured his face when Unsuspecting Stepmother's dog attacked our son.  

Wittle Johnny's Mom's message: 

KILL HER DOG, AND YOU FOOLS ARE GOING TO PAY FOR THIS!

One minute after Sam Simpleton's text - Wittle, Johnny's Mommy, calls Sam and tears him a new one with the same message.

30 minutes after - Wittle Johnny's Mommy Dearest emailed her attorney.

10-minutes after that - Wittle Johnny's Mommy Dearest drove to the hospital with her bf. As Wittle Johnny's Mommy Dearest verbally abused Sam Simpleton, Wittle Johnny's Mommy Dearest recorded her son's side of the story. Later she followed it to her attorney.

Two days later – Sam and Unsuspecting got orders to stop Wittle Johnny's visits because the house was deemed unsafe.

After a lengthy lawsuit – Sam and Unsuspecting Stepmother must pay for ALL medical bills, the extensive plastic surgery bills, and the therapist bill (remember, poor Wittle Johnny was scarred for life, will never be the same, and Wittle Johnny will always fear dogs). 

Ms. Wittle Johnny's Accusatory Mommy Dearest's attorney notified the newspapers. It was all over the internet – what neglectful people Mr. Sam Simpleton and Unsuspecting Stepmother were. 

On behalf of Wittle Johnny, Ms. Wittle Johnny's Accusatory, Mommy Dearest, sued and won a significant settlement for Wittle Johnny, which she will control until he's eighteen. In addition, child support increased, and Sam only saw his son on (supervised visits).

Mr. Sam Simpleton and Unsuspecting Stepmother divorced and went their separate ways after Sam refused to take his Rose-Colored Welding Goggles off – BUT kept blaming Unsuspecting Stepmother for sicking Little Doxie onto his poor Wittle defenseless Johnny. 

Lastly, and saddest of all, Ms. Wittle, Johnny's Accusatory Mommy Dearest, got a ruling to have Little Doxie returned to the kill shelter, where Little Doxie was placed in a gas chamber with a few other poor souls and gassed to death.

 EPILOGUE

Wittle Johnny's Mommy blew all of Wittle Johnny's money. They lived on welfare before law enforcement committed her to an insane asylum. Afterward, Wittle Johnny went no contact with her.  

10 years after the events of this story, Wittle Johnny was convicted and sent to prison for murdering - first small dogs - then small children before he was caught killing his girlfriend. Wittle Johnny, with sadistic glee, said he first got his taste for blood and power when he caused the demise of his first victims - Little Doxie and the marriage of Dadddeeee and that b*t** of a step monster, Mrs. Unsuspecting Stepmother.

Mrs. Unsuspecting Stepmother remarried (a man without skids) and is living happily ever after. They started a successful rescue and non-kill shelter for animals. 

Mr. Sam Simpleton still wears his Rose Colored Welding Goggles! 

Start squirting SS. 

The help of BM.  Would most likely backfire.   BM would probably try to make you get rid of the dog if you implied a dangerous situation.

I like the squirting idea but the BM would probably get up on her hind legs on that one (pun intended).

I believe there are animal care vids on youtube "what dogs/cats hate" etc.  Unless SS is some sort of animal torturer like Chef's DD.

and find a quality life partner.

As for BMs cry fest about how unfair it is that her X and his new partner are successful and she is a POS failure in life.... time for Skittles.

My SS came home from a SpermLand visitation upset that my DW forced the Sperm Clan to pay CS to support him and his three  younger also out of wedlock Spermidiot spawned half sibs by two other baby mamas were starving and did not have the nice things SS had because of SS's evil bio-mommy.

We bought a shit ton of Skittles, made a pile of 133 Skittles on one end of the table.  SS was impressed with the huge pile of  Skittles that represented the $133/mo the SpermClan was COd to pay in CS. So, he remained upset that his mommy was mean.

Then....on the other half of the table we built a pile of 1000 Skittles (house payment, property taxes, homeowners insurance, etc...), 500 Skittles (monthly grocery bill), 800 Skittles (vehicle costs), 250 Skittles (Power, water, garbage, etc...), 100 Skittles (SS's clothing, toys, etc...), $100 Skittles (SS doctor copays, Rx costs, etc....), $300 Skittles (School taxes for SS to go to school), $250 Skittles (Music lessons, sports teams, trumpet, sports gear, etc....), and finally 150 Skittles (SS related entertainment costs, restaurant food for SS, etc....). The last thing we did was a small pile of Skittles that represented the cost of just buying diapers for SS when he was a baby.  We then divided eacy pile by 3 to break out the Skittles costs of supporting SS each month.

SS counted our every Skittle as we talked and the piles were built the categorized to reprisent his total support costs. Hey, a learning moment opportuntiy.

Then we had him push all of the Skittle piles into one big one, except for the his portion.  There was a giant pile and a pretty big pile that represented what it cost for him to live each month in our home, our neighborhood, go to good schools, etc, etc, etc..... Then there was the CS pile (133 Skittles). 

Then we had him drop the CS Skittles, one by one onto the pile that represented  his related costs. We asked if he saw any difference in that pile before and after he added the CS Skittles.

Nope. 

Then we asked if it made sense that the CS that the law required his SpermClan to pay for his support would cause his three younger half sibs to not have any Skittles, or nice clothes, or food, or, or, or, or, or, or.

That was when he first gained some level of clarity that they were full of shit. He was less than 10yoi when we did the Skittles bullshit detector exercise. All Skittles numbers are estimates due to the intervening decades since the event.

We did have to have age modified examples a couple of more times over the years as they plied their lies and manipulations to try to make SS feel bad that he had nice things and a nice life and his half sibs did not. The last one..... Was just after he aged out from under the CO and asked us to stop billing the SpermClan with added late payment and penailties for  the $10k they owed us for their half of medical costs for SS during the 16+ years the CO was in effect. This was for Med services not covered by insurance and was clearly stipulated in the CO that they owed half of those costs.

So, final SpermClan lies lesson for SS who had just aged out from under the CO.

Raising a child takes patience, understanding — and about $245,340, based on the latest estimates from the U.S. Department of Agriculture. That's the average cost to care for a child from birth to age 18 for a middle-income family, as calculated by the USDA in a recent report on family expenditures.

https://www.usda.gov/media/blog/2014/08/18/how-much-will-it-cost-raise-c...

We reviewed these facts with him, pointed out that at our income levels it cost far more than that to raise him. Then I asked him if I should go buy a quarter million Skittles so we could re-do the Skittles lesson so he could answer his own question about is letting them off of the hook for their skeevey shit.  Of courdse I used appropriate wording. And always have in discussion with my son regarding the SpermClan (who I refer to as The (Lastnames).

SS laughed, grimmaced, and said .... NO DAD! I get it. I hate Skittles.

I wonder why he hates skittles?

After the guilt trips, lies, manipulations, attempts to get him to repay the CS to the SpermClan after he joined the USAF, and all of the SpermClan crap, I wonder why he does not care for them any more than he does Skittles.

Kids need the facts. To be able to understand and protect themselves from the toxic side of their family. If they are so unfortunate to have a toxic family side to deal with.

SS needs consequences.  Not a "talk" or scolding from DH - that clearly isn't working.  Send him to his room, take his electronics, make him do chores - whatever his currency is. This is serious disobedience that could result in loss of your dog.  Discipline this kid already! (Not you, your husband)

wil snap because almost everything/everyone is bigger than them. I've had dachshunds for 17 years, my last one crossed the bridge almost 2 years ago. Suzie looked like a little golden retriever, such a diva. 

This doxie boy has been through enough with the human mom dying. The 12 yo boy needs to be OUT of the room while the dog eats or drinks. It's true that the human needs to be trained more than the dog sometimes. Kids pick up weenie dogs becuase they think they are cute like little toys, not knowing that their spine/back is fragile. Learn about IVDD in dachshunds, the extensive and painful recovery and the cost $10K+. When my son was about 12, he would pick up our male, Scout, and whip him around to cradle him. I about took that boys head off more than a few times. 

An adult should always walk the doxie so he can get some weight off. It's typical for older adults to feed doxies the table scraps.

Maybe show your boy pictures of faces that haven been bitten by dogs....color pictures. Those scars on the face don't just go away, they need plastic surgery to smooth out. Well, the color pictures worked when I showed my 12 yr old son pictures of STD's! haha! 

This doxie boy is lucky to have you and another doggo friend in the home. Doxies are sensitive to loud noises too and usually don't do well around kids. I hope everything works out well, if not, pm me. I'm buying a one-story home this month just so I can start a small pack of doxies again, lol!

The kid is 12.. not 2.  He is old enough to listen and accept corrections.. if he refuses to listen.. he will repeatedly have the dog removed from his presence.. or vice versa.

A few things I  might start would be.. 

1.  Feed the dog where the boy isn't likely to be.. laundry room.. etc..?  

2.  If the boy approaches dog while he is being fed.  A reminder.. "please leave dog alone while it eats".. if there needs to be a 2nd reminder?  you send the boy to his room.. out of the room.  and if he doesn't leave.. you take dog and food to another place with you.. even a locked bathroom.. lol (with dog's dinner)..  it will be stopped.. 

3. And.. since the boy has been incapable of listening to requests to moderate behavior.. tell him it will be much simpler.  This dog is off limits to him.. he may not interract or play with the dog.. unless the dog approaches him.. then he may pet him but he may not lay down with him.. may not snuggle him.. must not pick him up.  period.  

and.. yes.. it requires your DH to be a parent

Have you tried simply roaring at him the next time he's annoying the dog "get away from my dog, NOW!" A short, sharp, verbal shock seeing as he's only used to being "talked to". Dammit, scare the shit out of him so that he doesn't forget it.