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Well here I am two years down the line...

Faye's picture

Hi, it really helped reading through all the support two years ago....I hope maybe to find that agin, or at least to feel a little stronger by writing things down.....

Last time I wrote on here, my partner was in the process of moving back home after two weeks away at his 'other' house. He made promises to sell his own house, as I had already done. I explained that it made me feel insecure and it didn't feel like he had actually moved in with me, making a full commitment.

During the last two years we,did try counselling but after two sessions I decided not to go again as the councillor was very opinionated, which I didn't expect, and I didn't think she understood wheat the actual problem was. She focused on trying to understand why the SD behaved in such a bad way and not on why my partner let her. My partner became very self righteous, which made things worse. It seemed to be all about poor her, I know how this might sound, but believe me after the things she's said to me via email it would become clear why I found it difficult to sympathise.

I have tried, my Partner admits this, also he says he knows he hasn't, can't do, after everything that's happened. ( so why does he want to be here?) We've been on holidays, but are more like distant acquaintances., argued, fallen out, not spoken, done our own cooking/washing.

Last Christmas his kids visited for the day and we all bit our tongues. All went ok until SD asked her dad for a lift home, and as always complained to him as soon as I was out of earshot. This time she was unhappy that we had not bought her boyfriend a gift, who we had never met? My partner came back and straight away told me he agreed with her and that I was wrong. This ruined the rest of Christmas.

We struggled on until the summer, when I had to have my gorgeous little dog put down due to a tumour, which was devastating. Next my youngest daughter, now 16 told me she was moving out to live with her Dad as she couldn't stand the atmosphere at home, then my eldest daughter refused to speak to me because of me allowing things to get this bad and told me to,'sort myself out' and that she wasn't interested in anything I had to say any more.

Things just got worse until I came home from work and found my daughter loading her things into,her dads car....this was awful and one of the lowest points of my life. Two hours later my partner decided to move back to his house, and left too! I found I wasn't upset at all about him leaving, and just felt a sense of calm in the house at last. But I did wonder how he could move out the same day my daughter did, without a thought for how I might be feeling, totally alone.

Twenty four hours later my partner said he had made a mistake and wanted to come back...by the way, he never, ever, tells me he loves me. I said I wanted time to think. In fact for the first time I felt motivated, I actually found another, smaller house to move to, and had our home valued. He refused to sell. After two weeks of many emails from him I agreed to meet, we went for a meal and after lengthy discussions decided......to give us one last shot. He said he didn't want to start again act his age. (55)

We are now nearly at Christmas again and things are not good. We are in separate rooms and barely speaking. He still has his house, with his daughter now living there as she is home from uni (just near to us) and he is telling me that he has it to 'keep his options open'. Which makes me feel totally insecure. Now he tells me his daughter is refusing to come here for Christmas day although she is invited. She is now almost 21, but my partner has said he is not going to let her spend the day alone, so what is he planning, I don't know. I have said to him that it's her choice, she is invited, if she chooses not to come its up to her...and just to leave it at that as I feel she is attention seeking as always.

A few days ago my Partner told me that he wished I would have an accident while driving as that would solve a problem for him....he can't decide to give up or not. This way the mortgage would be paid off and he could afford to stay in our home. He said the decision would be made for him. I just feel numb at this.

Now I find that my job is under threat in the new year. All I seem to be able to do is go to work (that's all that keeps me going) come home and go to bed, I am really lonely, I do see my youngest daughter weekly but it's not the same, I miss my little dog and my eldest daughter, as we were so close. Don't get me wrong I'm not perfect and I know there are two sides to every story, I have been very irritable for a long time, which doesn't help. I just want to be happy again, but ATM have not got any fight left in me to do anything.

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ecgirl's picture

Faye, It sounds to me like he has made this decision for you. He wishes that you would have an accident? He doesn't love you, you need to leave him and force him to sell the house if he still doesn't want to sell it. Whether he or you wants to start over or not, you both need to. You deserve to be with someone who treats you so much better than this, and to find happiness for yourself. If you didn't miss him before you won't miss him now, and after some time, you will be happy that he is gone. You might not have any fight left in you now, but it doesn't actually take fight to leave, just a little will power. But I think that after you two separate and you get into a regular routine on your own, your daughter will probably come back and you will find you are much happier, and the fight will come back to you when you need it.
Anyway, that is just my humble opinion on what you have said. I'm so sorry that you are going through this and I hope you find a way to your happiness again.

Faye's picture

Thank you so much, I feel you are right. We are spending the time we are at home at the same time in separate rooms, it's so sad. I do get that for him to wish me harm means he doesn't love me, that hurts though.

misSTEP's picture

I understand that this is hurting you. However, when you finally break it off for good and sell that house, only then will you be able to start the healing process.

If you cut yourself with a knife, you wash it, put a bandaid on and go on with life. It hurts for a while but heals. But your relationship is like cutting yourself every day in the same spot with a knife. The wound is never going to heal.

Here is something I found on another website regarding a couple who split and the guy was being stubborn about selling their house they co-owned:

You don't need his permission to sell the house. As co-owner you have a right to bring what's called a partition action in court. This is a legal process by which the co-owner of a property files a lawsuit against the other owner to force a sale and divide the profits. Let's see if you can get him to agree to unload the house without having to take this step. Often just the threat of an expensive legal battle is enough to get the other party onboard.

Of course, this is in the US so you might want to have a meeting with a lawyer to see what your rights are. I'm not sure if you are legally married or not. If so, start with filing for a divorce.

Faye's picture

Thank you. No we are not married, we were engaged a couple of years ago but I gave him the ring back as I've never being able to trust him. I have found him out in so many lies.

I own 60% of our property as I invested more, maybe I can sell with that fact alone, I will have to find out.

I know you are right but it's just taking that final step. People at work tell me it's lonely on your own as you get older, and part of me is scared.

misSTEP's picture

There's a quote that I have always stuck by and it has served me well:

"I'd rather be lonely than miserable."

StillRixchick's picture

You are lonely NOW even though you live together. Leaving this relationship will at least open you up to finding a healthy, happy new one. Bless your heart, I'm so sorry for what you are going through - at least you will have your daughters to help you Smile

((((Faye))))

Faye's picture

All your comments are really making me feel better, thank you so much. He came in from work tonight (I am in the bedroom as always) and after a couple of hours he sends me a text to ask if I wanted any dinner, which I just ignored. What I don't get is how can he just continue living this way and pretend this is a normal relationship?

Faye's picture

Still hardly talking to each other, and now I have a bad cold and am at work all weekend. No idea if he is even going to be at home with me on Christmas day or go off to his other house to be with his daughter. I won't give him the satisfaction of asking him and he knowsI must be feeling concerned about it all. Mentally cruel I feel.

Faye's picture

Thank you ....imjusthereforth....your mum sounds like an amazing person, with a lovely fulfilling life. She's right about husbands being too needy.

ATM I am lonely and miserable, leaving to live alone maybe lonley but maybe I wouldn't be as miserable, with constant anxiety pains and sleepless nights.

emotionaly beat up's picture

Faye, you cannot have new beginnings without endings. The marriage is over. He wishes you would have an accident, that would solve his problems. I would be in seperate houses after that remark, not seperate rooms.

I know it is hard, but at least if you were in your own home you would not have to come home everyday to have the same old pain slap you in the face. For your sanity and your health let it go.

The first step I would think would be to see an attorney about selling the house. I think once you have sorted out the legalities not only is it one less worry for you to mull over, but it is the first step in taking back control of your life. You say you do not have the fight left in you, and I think after all you have been through, losing two daughters because of the "atmosphere" in your home, and having to live with Mr Selfish on a stick 24/7 it's no wonder you have no fight left, you are emotionally exhausted. He and the situation is wearing you down.

See an attorney and let him do the fighting for you.

When you set up your new home you can create your own atmosphere. Your daughters righlty so, do not want to live with an unhappy miserable mother. It is depressing and brings them down too. Once you have your new home and your new life, once you change the atosphere in "YOUR" home to one of calm and peace, I am sure your daughters will love to be with you.

However, right now, just make plans for you. Your marriage is over, so that's done. You know that. You have to sell the house, he can't stop you. He is just trying to convince you he has control. He has been doing that for a while hasn't he. He's just a bully and you are the end result of being bullied. Let him try his crap on with your attorney and see how he fairs.

The new year is coming. Why not give yourself a new life. You may just find living alone gives you peace and solitude and you just love it. Living alone does not make you lonely. Living with a man who treats you like this, who puts you down, and worse, chooses another woman over you every single time, and his daughter is just that, the other woman. That is the loneliest life you could ever live. That eats at your self esteem every single waking moment. This is killing you. If you stay much longer he should be rapt. You see, he won't have to wait for you to have an accident you will drive yourself insane and he will be have you committed.

Please see an attorney get where you stand legally and financially sorted out, and let your attorney do all the work. You will be fine. All it takes is the first step, I promise you, you won't look back. Nothing could be as bad as what you are going through.

Oh, and by the way, you are wondering if he will spend Christmas Day with his daughter but don't want to give him the satisfaction of asking him. I can answer that for you. Yes, he is. But you know that anyway don't you.

I am really very sorry for you. I wish you'd just get out before Christmas and give yourself the gift of life, but I know that's asking too much. But if you can at least see an attorney before the new year that'd be good.

You can do this, don't let him do this to you anymore. Get out of your room and take over your house. Don't make a prisoner of yourself in there. Just start getting on with your life. That would be the biggest kick in the guts to him. He needs to see you are moving on, not sad, lonely and depressed in your room. I sincerely wish you all the very, very best.

PS: You've still got time no matter what country you are in to grab your girls if they are free before Christmas take the shopping or for a coffee or lunch, and give them the most precious gift you can, give them their mum. Tell them your plans to see an attorney, sell the house, and get a brand new life. Make their day for them. If of course you really do intend to leave. I pray you do. Go on Faye, get your girls and your life back. You can do this, I know you can.

Faye's picture

Thank you EBU for taking the time to write to me, with all the support you give I feel better already. I'm out of the house now until Xmas eve, but hopefully will be able to find the strength to end this.

emotionaly beat up's picture

Faye, we all understand, and we all know how hard that first step out the door is. Your kinda lucky, he's already given you a nice shove with his smart arse hope you have an accident comment }:) That on it's own is grounds to leave him. Everyone is on the end of the line for you. We understand.

I am glad you are out of the house till Christmas Eve, that is better than having him in your face for the next few days. If it is possible, can you stay out for Christmas Eve and Christmas Day, or is that not an option for you.

You gave this your best shot. You both know it's over. I guess, he being the gutless type he is, and I know that because he is just like mine and so many others here. too weak to stand up and be a man, to weak to teach his daugher manners, so I a guessing he is too weak to leave. He did it once, and found it hard, now he doesn't want to make the move again. It would be far easier on him, if you did all the hard work for him. You leave, you look like the bad guy, and he can be the poor victim, he can play on people's sympathies rather than be the villian that left, yet again.

But no matter, this is not about him. This is about what is best for you first, then your daughters. You have lost them over this and it wasn't worth it. They deserve to see you happy. You deserve to be happy, and he deserves to be alone with his miserable daughter.

I know you can do this Faye, YOU know you can do this. It is damn hard, but you can do it, and I am excited for you at the thought of it. It will be okay. As I said before, find yourself an attorney and let him fight it all for you.

Take it easy, try and relax wherever you are right now. I hope you are with family or friends and I hope you can put this aside for a couple of days and enjoy yourself. There is no need mulling it over and over. Let it go till after Christmas now and have yourself as much fun as you can manage.

We are all here for you, so you need not feel alone. Don't forget we are in a lot of different time zones, so someone should always be waiting in their computer for you.

Get back to me and let me know how you are doing. Better yet, let me know your attorney kicked his arse to the kerb and you are in the house partying. All the best Faye. It really will be alright. I can safely promise that. Smile

I know someone who was afraid to leave, stewed and stewed for years over it and was totally miserable. One day without warning this person just up and walked out, went to stay with family, never phoned, or left a note, nothing, didn't take is calls. The very next day she was in with a lawyer. The lawyer sent her husband a letter saying she wasn't coming back and advising she would be applying for a divorce and a settlement. Her lawyer basically advised the husband to get a solicitor, because it's all over.

So, its been done before. Sometimes people get so pushed down this is the only way they can save themselves, and if that is the case then so be it.

Faye's picture

Thankyou, thankyou for all your comments. I have just posted to Adult stepchildren and have copied it in below as it updAtes this blog...

I am actually at work, support work, so I'm keeping busy with people around me (I love my job). Yes he is too weak to do anything, says he can't decide.....

Hardly slept at all last night, I'm drained today at work.....what I want is be loved and happy. Or just be happy if that's not possible. My partner knows this and tells me he won't give me what I want as doesn't want me to tell him what to say, and that he's stubborn. So I wait, do nothing, and still nothing from him.

In my head I have decided to leave, I have already been looking for a place that might be a possibility to move to....but we have to sell first and that could take a while, this time of year. What I meant was what is he going to do about his daughter, stay at home with me on Xmas day and not see her, or leave and go and be with her? I don't want to 'rock the boat' before Xmas day as he will feel justified walking out if he feels I am pushing him. He is a weak character and finds making decisions very difficult, that's why I don't want to make this decision for him.

I know him, he will go along with whatever I decide as it takes the decision away from him and he can tell everyone it was my choice. He will never stand up to her as I know he feels guilty for being with me and her being alone, and is afraid she won't want to see him any longer.

He always tells me I am too needy and insecure. He's right about the I insecurites, this I do agree on. But as he refuses to sell his other house to (as he says) "keep my options open" and never tells me he loves me, never stands up to my SD I, at least, understand why I feel this way. Also a big part of why is due to my mum telling me as a child she never wanted a daughter, only boys. Also that she didn't like me but had to love me as I was her daughter. Then she had the son she craved and loved him to bits. She has do done lots of other hurtful things ( to numerous to mention) over the years too. She and my dad 'swApped' husbands/wives with another couple when I was 17. I lived alone and basically lost touch with them all over the years, as they had new lives.

I married young to a very controlling man, had four children and supported him while he built up his business, the. He left me for someone else. Very painful divorce followed and it was 18 months before I met my Partner, we didn't live together for three years after this, so I have taken things slowly.

I took a massive step this year to visit my mum, which went ok, she was pleased to see me, but never gets in touch with me of her own accord. I have now asked her and her husband to stay for a couple of days over Xmas and just want to put it all behind me. So will have to see how that goes.

I didn't see my Dad for 17 years but last year I choose to reconnect with him. It's ok, all very polite when we visit, but no meaniful conversations about anything important.

It must be hard for you candylou but at least you were prepared to do something. Which is what I need to do. He knows I have nowhere to go and feels he can just continue on this way without doing anything about anything. I know It is up to me, but I feel so alone, have lost a lot of confidence, and am physically worn out.

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emotionaly beat up's picture

I'm guessing given what you have just said, that your DH wants desperately to spend Christmas Day with his daughter. He of course doesn't want to bring that up with you, he wants you to do something to make him mad so he can be justified in walking out and spending the day with his daughter. So he is going to be pushing your buttons super hard.

I know I've said it before, but you do need to see an attorney and get this house situation sorted out, and you do need to leave and be happy. He is not the man for you, he has told you that.

If you don't buy into his game and allow him to start a fight he probably will stay home with you, but he is going to make damn sure you pay for that, he is going to make your day miserable. Do you want that.

Please stop thinking and worrying about his next move, and what he might do, and rocking the boat. Think about you. What is your next move, what do you want to do. He has been bullying you and wearing you down, do you really care if he spends Christmas with his daughter and gives you a break from his moody bad tempered ways. Please, please, please, see an attorney, please.

Faye's picture

Oh you are so right. He has finally sent me an email, as he won't talk to me, saying as his daughter won't come for Christmas Day because of me, so he is going to go to her and spend a couple of hours with her. I told him that If he goes, then don't come back as that's exactly what she wants....to come between us.

ATM I now have my mum, stepdad and my youngest son here and my partner is sulking around us all, threatening me with leaving. I told him...go..but he's still here?

Now he's just said his daughter has been in touch with other members of her family who feel sorry for her and have invited her to be with them. Why though, she was invited here, just choose not to come. In my opinion she is attention seeking, and it's working.

Not sure, but I think he will go tomorrow, and that's that as far as I'm concerned as he should stand up to her and he never will.

emotionaly beat up's picture

Oh I know that making everyone miserable attitude so well. I have suffered the humiliation of it many many times. His daughter refuses to come into your home, be civil and have a pleasant visit with her father. She instead chooses to come to your home and make you feel unwelcome in it. When you finally say enough, then daddy takes over her role and starts to make sure your family feel unwelcome. It is a deliberate and nasty attempt to make sure if his daughter can't come there, then your family won't come there either.

Because your family treat him with respect. Because they speak to him and are friendly, he has no reason to ban them. So his only option is to make them feel unwelcome so they won't come back.

This is never going to stop unless you change what you are doing. Unless you stand up for yourself and to him.

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Well, I have stood up for myself. We had Christmas Day, he stayed here with me, didnt go to his kids....resentfully though. We hardly spoke to each other in front of my mum, stepfather and my son. Boxing Day he said he was planning to be here to meet my other kids. Who were visiting for lunch, then going to see his kids....then going to a house party with his daughter at his nieces, without me.. I couldn't believe it, told him to leave before my kids arrived as I didn't accept that he wanted to play the good stepdad, with his own presents...to my kids, then when they went home....leave me to visit his daughter and take her to his family party.

He didnt get this at all, big row....I drove my mum and stepdad home. When I got back he had packed...another row....then he left.

That's it....he's gone! I have just had wine, feel ok, possibly numb....not really sure. He said he is not going to pay any bills, no idea how I will manage. Omg

emotionaly beat up's picture

He has just handed you the biggest and kindest gift if all. Very soon you are going to see that. I agree he can say what he likes. But the law will say otherwise. So you got to stay in the house for now. That means he cannot destroy or devalue it in any way. I left my first husband in he house. 6 months later when things were settling up and the house valued. He had all bit destroyed it. Sure it was cosmetic. Torn wallpaper, torn curtains. Curtains taken off windows. Filthy appliances unkept garden etc. nothing structural. He of course bought me out as he had a job and I had the 3 kids no job. Then he hung up the curtains and moved on.

emotionaly beat up's picture

Oh by the way, Sueu2 tells it like it is. I feel a bit sorry and try to go in gently. She sees it like it is slaps you about the head and tells you to get on with it. She's right. She's also very right about this giving you the chance to rebuild your relationship with your daughters. Listen to Sueu2, she's calling a spade a spade and even at the lowest of times, it is often the people like her who just put it out there who wake us up the most. See an attorney. Put down the wine glass, and open the phone book. You will be fine.