I'm new to disengaging please help!
I am new to the idea of disengaging but I'm at my wits end. I've been in my stepsons life for 5 years he is now 10 and still has zero respect for me or anyone really. I have a 18 month old son And another due in June and the house is crazy an I'm afraid the 2 younger boys will follow in the footsteps of my stepson his dad lets him do whatever he wants and this is our number one argument. Stepson has to have the last word, won't listen and won't pick up after himself. We live in a tiny house and I can't escape and I can't keep up with his messes. I want to do the disengaging since I'm not allowed to tell him anything without a hug fight anyways. But help!!!! What do I do when he leaves his dirty clothes In the middle of the living room floor and dishes on coffee table where my toddler can reach? What about when he refuses to eat dinner bc I can't cook according to him and it makes my toddler think he should be able to run around during dinner time? I need tips about how this works!!!
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My SD13 leaves her stuff all
My SD13 leaves her stuff all over the house also, clothes, dishes, hair products, straightener etc.
I refuse to clean up her mess. So when I am cleaning up I take everything that is hers and I put it outside her bedroom door. I mean everything. If she leaves a water glass out it goes outside her door and not in the kitchen. She can take it to the kitchen herself. That way her dad sees it sitting there and he tells her to pick it up. That way there is no confrontation and no arguing. Its in front of her door. She knows it belongs to her. She knows she has to put it away.
I agree. Anything SS leaves
I agree. Anything SS leaves around the house I would put on the floor of his bedroom and shut the door. He leaves dishes, put them into his bedroom. It's gonna get gross, but stand your ground.
That's what I do, except when DH makes a rule for everyone in the house. Then I follow the rule to the T. DH told all the boys (2bio and 2 skids) that if any clothes are left on the floor of their bathroom for more than 30 minutes, will be thrown out. In DH's mind he THINKS his boys have followed his rule, but it isn't true. I have thrown out many, many pieces of clothing of his boys but I don't bring it up. Why? because it just brings up arguments. So I let him think what he wants to think.
I would focus on raising your children. If that means clearing all of SS's bad habits and putting them into his room, then do it. I would tell DH what you're going to do. That the way he is raising HIS son is not OK with you. And that you're not going to interfere with his parenting, but you will be parenting your babies a certain way that will mean for you to remove SS's bad habits.
I would give DH ALL that goes with parenting. Stop doing SS's clothes. Don't cook for SS. Do as minimal as you can.
I don't wash clothes, cook, pack, bring bags over to Swamps, nothing. I help out only if I want to.
Agreed... if I ever find
Agreed... if I ever find anything of SD15 in any common area of the house (basically anywhere BUT her room) I simply walk it to her room and open the door and chuck it in. where it lands? I don't care, what it is? I don't care. If she has no respect for her things, then I sure as shit don't. And this is not being a wicked SM.. I promise you if my BS4 wants to play the slob when he gets older, the same standard will apply to him.. the only difference being there will be consequences for his blatant refusal to follow simple instructions.
lol yep I chuck too! I threw
lol yep I chuck too! I threw a radio outside her door last weekend and it hit the door and broke and batteries fell out. She was so mad when she went up and found it and called downstairs and asked what happened and SO was listening so I said "Oh I put to put it outside your door and it fell. My bad". She yelled "uuuggghhhh" and went into her room. Two can play bitch.
I actually got this from my
I actually got this from my mom and it drove me nuts!!!! She would put everything in a pile in the middle of my bedroom and I would get soooo mad! LOL. But it worked. After a couple times I started just picking up after myself because I didn't want a pile of garbage in my room. Not sure how well it would work with a boy because they probably wouldn't care but its worth a shot.
I agree. Anything SS leaves
I agree. Anything SS leaves around the house I would put on the floor of his bedroom and shut the door. He leaves dishes, put them into his bedroom. It's gonna get gross, but stand your ground.
That's what I do, except when DH makes a rule for everyone in the house. Then I follow the rule to the T. DH told all the boys (2bio and 2 skids) that if any clothes are left on the floor of their bathroom for more than 30 minutes, will be thrown out. In DH's mind he THINKS his boys have followed his rule, but it isn't true. I have thrown out many, many pieces of clothing of his boys but I don't bring it up. Why? because it just brings up arguments. So I let him think what he wants to think.
I would focus on raising your children. If that means clearing all of SS's bad habits and putting them into his room, then do it. I would tell DH what you're going to do. That the way he is raising HIS son is not OK with you. And that you're not going to interfere with his parenting, but you will be parenting your babies a certain way that will mean for you to remove SS's bad habits.
I would give DH ALL that goes with parenting. Stop doing SS's clothes. Don't cook for SS. Do as minimal as you can.
I don't wash clothes, cook, pack, bring bags over to Swamps, nothing. I help out only if I want to. sorry for the double post
P.S. As far as him not eating
P.S. As far as him not eating what you cook...then he starves. His problem not yours. Explain to your kids that their step brother is choosing not to eat and that there will be consequences for him later, just as there would be consequences for them if they didn't eat.
I look at it as you need to
I look at it as you need to instill in YOUR children the proper values so that THEY can choose to do the right things. you won't be able to shield them from every obnoxious, slobby kid in school, just like you can't shield them from the obnoxious, slobby kid at home. So teach them to do better.
It's the only way I can survive with our BS4. SD15 is a nasty, lazy slob but is the Perfect Precious Princess in our house (well in her and DH's eyes)DH (supposedly) tells her to pick up her room, throw her garbage in the trash etc. but nothing ever changes. But I have taught BS4 better, I have taught him to pick up his things, I have taught him to brush his teeth, etc. I have taught him that these things are NOT an OPTION. He is already at FOUR able to see the difference between how SD acts and how he is EXPECTED to act. BS4 will actually tell SD15 to go and clean her "nasty room", or to brush her "nasty teeth". It's quite hilarious. Even DH laughs about it.
While it sucks to have the double standard, I see it as the only way I can survive this crap without going insane
Thank you so much everyone! I
Thank you so much everyone! I also throw crap I. His room including a glass he didn't take to the sink but I got in trouble for going overboard grrrr anyways, what about taking him places for fun with me and my son? Or on walks? Leave him out?
Yep, if you fully disengage
Yep, if you fully disengage you do NOTHING for SS. You don't take SS fun places with you and your son as that's a benefit of having you in his life. If he's not willing to respect you, he doesn't get the benefits of having you around.
You got in trouble? Sounds
You got in trouble? Sounds like your DH treats you like a kid. Could that be part of the problem? If SS thinks you're his equal (both kids compared to DH), then he's not motivated to respond to you as an adult in the home.
You're right, he does think
You're right, he does think we are equal!
Don't worry too much about
Don't worry too much about your children being led astray by SS. YOU are the authority figure in your child's life and that far outweighs the influence of another older child. Plus the age difference between your bio and your stepson is so large that your children will see SS as a kidult, not as a peer and won't really expect consistent treatment in the way you might think, or emulate him, as long as you are consistently enforcing YOUR rules for YOUR bios. One rule for him, another for them will seem quite normal to them if they grow up with it.
On the dinner issue - as another poster says, the real consequence of refusing to eat dinner is being hungry. If he refuses to eat the meal then politely suggest that he get down from the table if he doesn't want to eat. It will pull the rug out from under him if he is attempting to assert control or cause annoyance. He either has to get down, or eat something. If he continues to moan or complain, just keep repeating pleasantly 'sorry you don't like the meal, but I won't be cooking again this evening so you should just get down from the table if you don't want to eat'. If your DH then wants to prepare something separate for him that's his issue.
When SS was younger he had a
When SS was younger he had a very bad habit of leaving his stuff all over. I would only pick up items that would endanger the baby or toddler and they usually went into the garbage. When the baby chewed and slobbered on a book he borrowed from a friend and SS had to replace it with his own money he was pissed but when the toddler broke his mp3 player he was livid and never left ANYTHING out again. It was an expensive lesson he had to learn twice but it eventually stuck.