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Gia's picture

I have been married for 2.5 years and I haven't learned anything... I still hate BM (perhaps even more than before) I still have mixed feelings about SD6, and I still CAN'T let *his* past go...
It still bothers me to think that he had a child with BM, and they experienced that Joy together. You would think that I would have learned how to deal with things and how to manage them.

I still HATE when he calls BM, emails her, talks to her in person... I just Hate it, and that is the simple truth. I hate that I think she has some sort of conspiracy against me, by prompting her daughter to call my husband and such...

I can't live a life in which I do not know how I'm going to feel the next weekend (when SD visits). This past weekend I came home from work at 9:30 and DH was playing videogames with SD6, notice that the bedtime for the kids is supposed to be 9:00. And he proceeds to spend more than 30 minutes (trying to find a saving point) So SD when to bed at 10. I never, ever, come home from work a Saturday night, before 10, so I wanted to spend it with DH, obviously that couldn't happen, because we ended up fighting...

So, this weekend, I just felt more positive about it, I have this project, I am re-painting and decorating a bookshelf for SD, and felt good about it. But yesterday changed everything, now I'm moody and don't want Friday to come at all...

I am terrible scarred from a pregnancy that happened in the worst circumstamces... I was 18, I got pregnant the day before moving to this country and was starting college. Throughout my pregnancy I was so lonely and depressed, it really scarred me. I dream of a pregnancy which is planned and with the father of the baby being supportive and attentive. I keep thinking (or used to) that a baby will make me feel better, but I think a baby would make things worse. And I can't just "risk" it believing that things will be better, because if they don't, I can't take the baby back and I will be attached to my husband forever.

For those of you out there that want to know if things get better, if these feelings get numb, the truth is... they don't. At least in my case they don't. There is always a new thing that bothers me, Always...
The last thing that affected me was finding a bunch of "lists" in SD's room that said, mom, dad, SD (her name). It really made me anxious and annoyed because she was 2 when they split and she has no memory of them being together. I have also noticed that she has changed, she is not as "sweet" as I thought she was. She has made comments that made me really sad, such as her trying not to laugh at someone in a wheelchair at school. I thought she knew better. And also me seeing her bullying my son when she doesn't know i'm looking.

I can't do this anymore, my feelings of resentment, hatred, and uncertainty are still there. I have not made any progress and I don't believe I will "eventually". I am lucky to have a supportive husband that is on my side for the most part, but maybe is time for me to back off. This is not my path, I want a different path. I want to be able to "move" wherever I want to without worrying about an SD somewhere.

I have so much to say, and so much pain in my heart. I love DH, and I love SD, but the two loves don't seem to function together. If we do get a divorce, I want to stay in touch with SD and be her friend forever, and be there if she needs me. That's right, I guess I'm choosing HER over HIM, She needs a father more than I need a husband...

Sorry for my pointless rant... Sad

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caregiver1127's picture

Sia - everything you are mentioning is what we all go through - it is very frustrating to have to live a life that has a third partner in the marriage - I think this is one of the things we don't really think about when we get involved with a man who has children. Or we never imagine that these BM's for whatever reason are just crazy.

Now I am not trying to be harsh here but you can't change the past you can only make your future - so let the past go - you married a man with a child you knew he had a child you knew he had a past - so for your sanity you need to let it go - I know that is easier said than done but believe me I was in your shoes around year 2 of the marriage. I am now 6 1/2 years into the marriage and it is so much better.

You do need to sit down with your hubby and tell him what is bothering you - if SD is bullying your son then she needs to be corrected and you need to tell hubby that you will be correcting her if he is not around - children that are 6 years old need to be corrected right away they tend to forget why they are in trouble if you wait too long - also because of your view of the situation is she bullying or just being an older sister? I have a friend whose kids are 2 1/2 years apart in age and the way the older child treats the younger one drives me nuts and I want to spank her when I see her treat her sister like that - but they are just being siblings - so if there is real bullying going on then you must step in and stop it - kids will try to get away with anything they can when they think no one is watching.

Also you need to tell hubby that bedtimes are to be enforced because alone time is crucial for the 2 of you - you said he is supportive so use his support and tell him what you need - he in not a mind reader and can't read your mind. You also have to accept that he does have a past and that includes a child - I am not sure if you get divorced that the BM will let you see the child -

You have half the battle won you love your SD - your husband is supportive - you love your husband so give it time - I too remember being 8 months pregnant crying in my garage with my DH telling him I wanted a divorce but now I was stuck with him because I was pregnant - I remember crying in the shower not knowing which way to turn because I was so unhappy - I remember not having this site and no friends who are SM's and trying to keep all of these feelings inside - it was a very dark period in my life but I promise you it does get better eventually - I would say it was over if your DH was an asshole and your SD and BM were out of control and you hated your SD then I would say it might be time to get out - but you are still so new in the situation (even though it may feel like years have passed - it has been such a short time) Remember anything worth having is worth working for -

Maybe you need to get away by yourself or with your and your son for a weekend - maybe a weekend when SD is there - just go away and let DH handle her for the whole weekend and you recharge your batteries - it would be even better if you can go by yourself but if SD bullies your son then you can't leave him alone with her and your DH. Or maybe just try to get a massage or go for a walk every day and tell hubby to watch your son - hang in there - I think it will get better!

Gia's picture

I understand in theory that he has a past, and I chose to be part of his life like that, but in reality I was young (19) and did not see any of this coming. I never said that I'm right in feeling the way I do, but I can't help it. I can say to myself, he has a past, but I'm his present and future, and before I can even finish that sentence, BM is calling, so his past is not that "past" after all. That past that I hate, is his present as well, and that wil lbe his future. BM and SD will ALWAYS be around, but I don't "have to". I'm not trying to change his past, but I can change my future, A future in which I live a peaceful life and don't have to worry about BMS or SDS...

My husband knows how I feel, that night he claimed that he couldn't just turn the game off, because you need to find a saving point, whatever. HE is usually supportive, and he was right next to me when he saw SD playing with my son(3). She made him pick up the play food, from the floor, in order to let him use *HIS own* bike, and behind his back she kept throwing the food back out, so he would never finish cleaning it and never riding the bike. DH got upset, grabbed the bucket full of fake food and emptied all of it and told her she was to pick all up, and he also told her that is not nice to bully her younger brother.

HE is supportive, always on my side, and I still have issues, so I don't get it, I don't get me. I don't get this bitterness and unhappiness...

caregiver1127's picture

Okay you made several good points - you are young - and yes you did not see how your would feel coming - I was 36 and did not see it coming - if people tell you that you knew what you were getting into tell the to STFU - why would we marry someone if we knew that there would be all of this problems - we wouldn't.

I think you need to ask yourself how much you love your husband and is it worth it - because yes he has a past and yes it keeps popping up in you face - so you need to tell him that BM needs boundaries and needs to respect your place in his life and that includes time that you both spend together. BM needs to stop being a part of the time that you two have - she knows what she is doing so tell DH it needs to stop.

When I was trying to get pregnant there was a night that I was ovulating and my DH was on the phone with BM - I was getting so pissed off because they were not talking about SS they were just talking about how hard her life (that she chose to have by kicking out DH) was - meanwhile she was single - we had SS FT and she was paying no CS and living the high life. I went up to the phone ripped it out of his hand and told BM - he will call you back later I am trying to make a child with him and we need to do it now - Goodbye. DH just looked at me and I said listen you were her shoulder to cry on for many years she cheated on you and when she did she lost you shoulder - so shut up get in the bedroom and make me pregnant - I did get pregnant that night but it was not the loving romantic way I had imagined - it has taken quite a few years for me to make him understand what proper boundaries are with BM and now it is pretty good - also as time has gone by they have stopped talking so much - now that SS is older he is responsible for his relationship with his father. It is also good to see that your DH stuck up for your Son - you really have a lot going for you - it is overwhelming because you are young I could not imagine doing this in my early 20's I don't think I could have.

I was not trying to put the blame on you - I am just saying that if you want it to work it can but it is going to take compromises from everyone - but I think starting with the BM boundaries would be a good place - if all the calling bugs you then maybe she should be emailing your DH - talk to him about it. I wish you luck with this and am praying I know where you are I have been there but I promise with the right compromises it can get better.

stormabruin's picture

"I never said that I'm right in feeling the way I do, but I can't help it"
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I don't believe that there are wrong or right ways to feel. If you truly feel an emotion...be it angry, sad, scared, hurt, whatever...there is a reason. We are justified in feeling emotions & are never wrong to feel them. We just need to figure out the reason(s) & do what we can to resolve them.

Gia's picture

It is scary to realize that 2.5 years have gone by and I am still the same I was... I haven't matured, I haven't grown, I haven't changed, I haven't learned. I am 22 now, SO you would think that the transition between 19 to 22 would have made me a better person... Sad

caregiver1127's picture

That you are married with a 3 year old and a 6 year old - working - from another country so you had to adapt to America - you are making it happen - you are just completely overwhelmed - don't look at 19 through 22 - look at 18 through 22 - you have come a long way - do you have any family living here?

And what kind of better person do you want to be - there is not a better person - you are a great person with a lot on your plate and it is catching up to you - of course you have matured - most 22 year olds would just run - that you are questioning it shows that you are someone who takes life seriously - when I was 22 I was single living in NYC and having a high time I could not imagine at that time having 2 kids, a BM and a husband all while working - GIVE YOURSELF A BREAK!!!! Smile Smile

Gia's picture

Thank you for your insight. I do not have family in this country which adds a lot of stress to the whole situation. Most of my 22 year old friends are back in my country graduated from college, having fun and living the vida loca... I am graduating in 6-8 months with a B.S. I have a crappy job, but hope that after I graduate I can find something better.

I want to be a better person in the sense that I can understand things better, have more empathy, and see others' point of view. Sometimes I wish I could see things from a 6 year old little girl's perspective. Sometimes I want to just not let things get to me, and not over-analyze little insignificant things. I want to be able to not feel uncomfortable of certain aspects of my husband and his daughter's relationship. I wish I could have more patience, too...

I wish I didn't bitch of many things, and wish I was sane enough to not even need this site to vent. I wish I could keep more things to myself, which is hard for me, and of course I end up fighting. I wish I really wanted to live this life, but I don't... I got tired of it...

caregiver1127's picture

That you are feeling all of this shows your maturity level beyond that of a 22 year old. You are going to school, working, married, taking care of a 3 year old full time and a 6 year old part time and a BM - WOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOWOW - you really need to give yourself a break - I would have had a nervous breakdown by now - you have a lot on your plate - I promise it will get better - you have so much going for you in the fact that DH is supportive and you love your SD (that is huge the love for SD) also it is very hard without family around - I know all my family is 800 miles away - and I am 43 and miss them terribly - I can't imagine at 22 being so far away from family.

You need to have a mental health break - is there any way that you can get away for at least a night to spend in a hotel and possibly get a massage - you need it!!

SillyGilly's picture

Gia, have you thought about going to some type of counseling to help you sort through some of your feelings?

stormabruin's picture

"I still HATE when he calls BM, emails her, talks to her in person... I just Hate it, and that is the simple truth. I hate that I think she has some sort of conspiracy against me, by prompting her daughter to call my husband and such..."
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Gia, I understand these feelings. I can tell you it took me 4-5 years to get beyond feeling suspicious &...almost foolish when BM & DH would be on the phone discussing what was happening with their common friends & family members. I was pissed when DH would go pick up skids or take them back & he'd be gone for hours. Pickup/dropoff was about an hour away & he'd be gone for 3. What could they possibly have to talk about for an hour at pickup/dropoff??? I felt foolish when I'd hear him chatting & laughing with her on the phone.

It went on that way until I finally reached my breaking point & told him what it was doing to me & how it made me feel. Of course he came back with, "We have to get along for the sake of the kids". My point was getting along for the sake of the kids has nothing to do with her dad having to go to the doctor last week & everything the doctor had to say. It has nothing to do with reminiscing about beach trips with the kids...especially when the kids aren't participating in the conversation. My point was that her sharing her daily drama with my DH (then BF) had nothing to do with them co-parenting their children. My point was that if we were going to be in a relationship together, we have to get along for the sake of that, & their need for mindless chatter between the two of them was making it impossible for me to feel safe putting my effort & my soul into our relationship.

He honestly didn't have a clue until I explained to him that i felt like a 3rd wheel. I felt like a convenience for him...a warm body when he wanted it to be there. I felt foolish because BM was thinking she really had something on me...& she did. He was giving her the attention she wanted & taking it away from me.

As far as his past...sweetie, it's going to be there. Nothing can make that fact go away. He's not with BM. He's found his joy with you. Obviously you have things to offer that she didn't. She didn't get to have all of him because she couldn't or didn't give him everything you give him. Obviously he feels things with you that he didn't get to feel with her.

Chances are your SD will never be everything you feel she should be or want her to be because she's not your child. You may never feel like she's everything you'd hoped she would be because you parent in a different way or teach different values/morals. Don't let your feelings toward BM make you feel less toward your SD.

As far as the SD lists...she probably doesn't remember them being a family together, but hearing stories, seeing pictures, whatever...her lack of memory won't make her not WANT to remember. Kids want those happy things to hold on to. You found the lists in her room. She didn't bring them to you for you to see. I doubt she made them to hurt you or to shut you out. Of course, I realize that doesn't take away the hurt you feel in seeing them.

I'm truly sorry for what you're feeling. Talk to your DH. Tell him how you feel about these things...specifically. Tell him you feel sad, angry, hurt...whatever. Let him know that when it makes you feel . As far as his past, although neither you or him can change anything about it, tell him how you feel about it. Explain the feelings you're having to cope & deal with. Maybe it'll give him a clearer picture of why you need things to be different. It'll help him see things the way you see them & better understand how what may seem like nothing to him can feel like everything to you.

I hope things get better for you. (((Hugs)))

LizzieA's picture

Tell us more about the interaction with BM and experienced people on her can make suggestions. Is she always around or does it just feel like it?
There is a stage BMs go through when they try to treat their ex like he is husband in everything but intimacy. I had a link but can't find it. Our BM expected that DH would still do all the home repairs, etc, cared when she cried about being single, yada yada.

Don't beat yourself up about being "mature." Your post shows you are an insightful and analytical person, which is huge, as you are not just reacting to the situation but trying to understand it. You'll get there. Focus on the positive, too.

Gia's picture

Their interaction is not much. She drops SD6 off Friday evenings, DH takes her to her mom's house Sunday evenings and he usually calls SD sometime in the middle of the week. He usually gets 1 email per week with some sort of info. And when they do talk is always about SD. And that's that.

caregiver1127's picture

Okay - from all that you say in this entire blog - you just need a break - that is very minimal contact with the BM - it may seem like a lot but it is hardly anything - just tell hubby you need a night for yourself - I am telling you - you will feel much better if you can concentrate on you for 1 night!! Good luck - sweetie - I give you credit for only being 22 and dealing with all of this - just know that you are doing great and what you are feeling about his past and the BM is very normal!