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Skids coming over ALL the time without warning!! advice

belle_27's picture

Im still kind of new to the Step World, but my partner and i live up the road from the Skids and BM so we can be close to there school and see them as often as possible..

but his skids have only found out in the past few months (my choice) his dad and i are serious and the kids and i are getting to know eachother etc, SS 10 is starting to get annoyed that if they arent here then im here instead.

DH has always told them they are welcome to come over whenever they like and its there house as well etc..

this is my house as well, and everyone is still adjusting! and its so crap i get banginging on the door saturday morning and BM and skids are there needing to pick stuff up and here i am wanting to peace and quiet.. this is starting to happen almost DAILY!!!

Everynoe else seems to be just fine with the arrangement, but i came from living alone being a single girl! and now i cant even take a shower with fear that the skids will come bolting in the house

any advice how to try and get some rules happening, i do like them and they should see there dad as much as possible but come on i need some time alone!!

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stepmom2one's picture

I guess I could understand if you were having a night alone, a date night or something.

But, IMO, is is skids house too. I have no problem with SD stopping in (she just walks in, I don't ask her to knock), or coming over to get something she forgot.

Sometimes I am busy or my kids are taking nap, but my SD is welcome anytime.

The only advice I can give is that as time goes on I think you will adjust to having Skids.

buttercookie's picture

Maybe during the adjustment period the kids could be given a time they can't come by before. I don't know what time they popped by on Saturday but it sounds like it was early. Also maybe you could have one day off limits for you and your husband to have a date night. Also maybe having a night when they come over every week as a family night might help you bond some. Mixing families is hard on everyone.

belle_27's picture

thanks for the advice, they are really lovely kids and im VERY lucky so far, after reading all the horror stories on here! but i think they are just not liking the fact there dad has a life outside of them and work and i think thats the part they dont understand or like!

i totally understand this is there place as well where they should feel lik its there own, but we are NO way allowed to go over to BM house when the kids are with us, we have to call and get it approved.. so in a way its such double standards

i just think we have to get some rules set down on when they can come over, and when is appropiate.. not 7.30 on a sat morning

stepmom2one's picture

I think after awhile they will stop less or not at all on unscheduled time. Like you said it is an adjustment.

BM saying you have to call first, but then stops by...well that is sad. I would never tell my SD or kids to get approval to stop into their home for whatever reason. I would guess she sees DHs visit as her "alone" nights (like you would set up date nights the kids can't stop by) so she wants them to get prior approval.

7:30 is early, my SD has never stopped in that early for something. I would be annoyed with that as well.

belle_27's picture

ohhhh yes also to add!! it was the first time i had ever met BM! hahaha me in my dressing gown, groggy, messed up hair and no makeup...

PERFECT way to start my weekend hahah

I just think i need to adjust as well, i think they are all used to no privacy etc and its still new to me

buttercookie's picture

Ok this is a little harsh, she's new to this and adjusting. There is no reason the kids need to come over early on the days they aren't in the fathers care. They aren't her kids and she isn't expected to become the mother overnight. With adjustment and time to bond she will have a better handle on this.

stepmom2one's picture

agreed.

belle_27's picture

WOW!!! that was harsh......

i am on this website to learn and ask opinions of other people who have been in this situation before to help me.. im new to this and was seeking advice!

this is the life i have choosen and want to be apart of, and yes i do not have my own childern and i dont have that motherly responose yet.. thats why i was seeking advice on how other step mothers have dealt with this issue before.. wanting privacy and wanting a household that works isnt a selfish request, asking for communication and some rules doesnt make me a awful person..

im a step mother not there mother! my opinions and feelings should also be consided... i care about the kids greatly and want my DH to be happy, this is a new world and im trying to figure out where i fit in.

so how about you give me something to learn from instead of bashing me for asking for help to try improve the situation!

anabihibik's picture

I am about six months into a relationship with a man with a son. The first four months of our relationship, I remained kind of out of his son's line of sight. He knew I existed. He knew who I was, but we gradually brought me into the situation. Personally, I'm a fan of how this has gone. My previous relationship involved a man who I was engaged to and cheated and had twins with someone else, and they were just kind of pushed on me. That abrupt adjustment didn't work for a number of reasons. This more gradual one has worked nicely. I haven't met BM, and I can certainly understand not wanting to do so when you're in your bathrobe. That being said, maybe you can find a space that is yours. I have a friend who takes walks whenever she needs some space. They have dogs, so it is practical, too. Wink I don't live with BF; although, it has been brought up that it may be a possibility next spring. We have a long way to go before we get to that point, though. BF already has boundaries on BM that she is not to walk into his house, even when she is with their son. She is to knock or wait for him. It is the same courtesy he gives her. They are fairly amicable because there is a mutual level of courtesy. I live by myself now, and I love my privacy and my down time, but I also know that at some point, if I want this relationship to continue, I will have to compromise it. One thing that has helped my hesitancy to be in another relationship with someone with kids is the fact that I feel comfortable talking to BF about my feelings. I don't expect him to change something, but it is nice when he hears how I feel and is understanding of that. That alone makes some things a little easier for me. I hear his fears about me and his son out, too. This weekend, it was some concern that his son doesn't hug me. Whatever. His son will in his own time. But, I did make the effort to let his son know it is ok with me if he chooses to do that.

How do you know they aren't happy he is happy outside of them and work? There sounds like more to the story.

belle_27's picture

thanks anabihibik for the positive story and advice, i am almost in the same boat as you... but i never dated anyone with kids before so this is a adjustment for me! i felt the same about becoming a slow part of there lives, started off doing activities together and then slowly building up to sleep overs etc..

thankfully as you suggested i do have a outlet and places to go and my own life. the weekends the kids are over for the whole weekend, i normally go stay with my sister or parents, as i think its important they just get 1 on 1 time with there dad and enjoy just them and him, but i come over late sundays and we hang out.

the DH and i chat all the time about it, but i think its more my issues to work out and get my head around. I knew what i was getting into and its just adjusting, but we will do that in time.

well my DH has been working late recently and im home alot here, so the SS bounces over to get his basketball etc and i open the door and he is like "ohhh... where is dad..." so the DH took him out to shoot some hoops a few nights ago and the SS was just saying he feels when im over he cant just do things with his dad because im here... and its totally un-true, i work and do night school so most of the time im on the computer anyway.. so its just about the DH making more suggestions about them doing "boy" things more often together...

anabihibik's picture

Talking to ss, and showing him that you can do things together or he can still do things is going to be a huge part of that adjustment. They don't know where their spot in all of this is when there's a hug change. I'm doing things with the goal of coming across as approachable, but deserving respect, and not one of the parents. I'll keep following your story and we'll probably be able to help each other out. I can totally sympathize with your feelings. It is a huge adjustment. Reassurance will be huge for everyone. Hang in there.

mamacat_30's picture

It is and will continue to be a big adjustment on your part. Having never been a BM yourself (me either) the entire concept of children can seem intimidating. Plus your meeting them when they are all ready older and kind of past that "bonding" age. But yes, you have to realize that your "personal time" will probably suffer, as well as your alone time with DH. In the overall picture of things, if you have made the decision to be with this man than you will have to accept and respect his relationship with his children. And I'm sure that you have noticed by reading these blogs things can be a lot worse off. I suggest that you talk to DH about your feelings, but don't go into it expecting too much change (maybe just some door hours). Remember that DH wants it all, he wants his kids and you, ideally together. But it does sound like BM has some double standards, but I think they all do. .

Pick your battles. The S-Kids coming over announced or not seems inevitable, so put some locks on the bathroom doors and leave the BM on the porch! ---M

CaliStepMomma's picture

It is not OK to have the kids or BM come over unannounced. Not to get something they forgot or for whatever reason. But, you can't just put your foot down and say no coming over when it's not your week here.

A call before coming over is a basic courtesy that the kids should learn, even if BM doesn't. What if no one is home? Or what if you are in the middle of some "private time?" Yes, it is the kids house, but just like the house you grew up in is your house, once you move out, you can't just barge in on your parents whenever you like.

Divorce sucks. Having to go back and forth from one house to the other sucks. But, that's the way it goes and along with it come different modes of operation than with a non-blended family.

The kids have the right to take things back and forth from one house to the other and they have the right to see both their parents during their time with the other parent, but you also have the right for some semblance of routine, for knowing when you can relax, especially if your not a sole custodial parent and didn't sign on for that. It's not like you're complaining about your kids coming in from playing outside. You just want, at least, a heads up. To have your concerns taking into account.

I bet that if the kids called and said, "Hey Dad, I forgot my baseball hat, can I come by and get it?" and he covered the mouthpiece and said, "Hey Honey, Jr. forgot his baseball hat, mind if I take it to him?" or "Mind if he stops by and grabs it? I'll have it ready for him by the front door." You would say, "No problem!" with a smile. Right? This is DH being an active parent and an active husband, and he needs to be both. I'll even bet that you'd be willing to say yes even if DH didn't offer to take it over to him or find it for him. Yeah? This is not an unreasonable request. Neither would it be unreasonable if you said, "Honey, we're in the middle of a romantic dinner. Can it wait until the morning?" Even better, don't answer calls from them. Let it go to voicemail. If it's an emergency, you can deal with it. If not, you can decide whether to deal with it now or later. That's what we do. Partly because we never know if it's the kids legitimately calling or just BM calling to bitch at us.

The way we deal with this and similar issues in our house is to say that we respect the kids time with their mother and would like the same from them and her. Kids get it. They know it's weird for mom to show up at dad's doorstep. And, if you explain this to them kindly and straightforwardly, they will be fine with it. Kids thrive with routine and order and rules. It's simple, it's easy and it generally takes away stress for them.

I said this in another post and I'll say it again here. This issue is something that BM tried to knock me for in our child custody evaluation. And the evaluator stood up for me and said that it was the right way to go.

Now, I'm not saying that this all happened over night and that I was magically able to get my DH (dumb head) to see the light. No, it was long and painful. But, what dads need more than anything is to be told that they are good dads, and that setting boundaries is not going to make them bad dads or make their kids hate them, it will make them better and make the kids respect and love them more.

So, stand up for yourself, but take it easy, men are fragile and stupid. Don't we know it? Wink

Mommyto1Stepto2's picture

I agree. I think it is common courtesy to give a call before the kids stop over to get something. I would expect them to do the same if we were going to stop over at their mom's. This situation happened just last week to me. BM sent DH an email saying that SSs were taking the bus to her house after school to get their things and that he could pick them up there. Both DH and I were thinking about having some "alone time" if you know what I mean - then I am walking past our garage door (it was open) and BM is in the driveway with the kids. WTF? I thought he was supposed to pick them up at her house?? If plans had changed, she couldn't pick up the phone to let him know? I was mad and of course my DH thought it was fine. Because he lets her do whatever she wants and doesn't want to rock the boat.

belle_27's picture

thanks guys, that's how i was exactly feeling and wanted to make sure what i thought was correct..

i think kids coming over and stopping in 100% fine, but if BM there etc.. it takes 2 seconds to call to make sure its ok.. 99% of the time its no problem at all. but im just no the biggest fan of surprise visits!

but if we have to have respect for her house and when we are allowed over, i think it should be the same back. its call COMMUNICATION!!

cyberwoman's picture

I believe it is called respect. Respect for your autonomy and your privacy.

unbelieveable's picture

Belle -

Whoever it was who said that is just fine and dandy for the stepkids to just come and go as they please when they want - is wrong. That is your house too. When you started dating - and became serious - you knew he did not have custody of the children. You are entitled to alone time in your own home. If your husband or whatev does have the children on certain days - that is when they need to be there. If they want to come on other days they need to call first. I nmy own opinion - I think the courts tend to set child support on how much time the kids spend with the father - if he is paying a ridiculous amount of CS and they kids are at your house more than theirs - this needs to recorded and be taken before a judge and get that CS lowered. And as far as birth mother goes - she should not be permitted passed the front door. No double standards should exist. That is a reasonable request. She may drop them off at the front door.

You do not have children. That is why you expect privacy. If you choose motherhood - then you can give that up - but a few comments on here are absurd and they must be the BM's that allow their children to barge in and out of whomever house's they please. You are in the right to expect some alone time and privacy.

cyberwoman's picture

I am 42 and live near my parents whom I am very close with. I would NEVER just drop by at their house without calling first and checking to make sure it is OK. My parents love me, they feel their home is my home, but I respect them and respect their privacy, thus I continue to check if it was OK to come over. Smile