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Evening karate classes for sleep deprived SD6-GREAT idea BM!

I.hate.cats's picture

SD6 had never taken a class of any sort until we signed her up for gymnastics. We let her decide what type of class she wanted to take and then found one that was at 11 a.m. on a Saturday. We told BM that we wanted to do it back in May, we gave her a month's time to object before signing her up in June, then another three weeks until class started the last week of June. Both her therapist and pediatrician are concerned about her schedule and lack of sleep; BM puts her in her room around 8:30 with the TV then turns it off around 9:30. She wakes her up one to two times per night so that she won't wet the bed, then gets her up at 5:00 a.m. to go to daycare. Additionally she leaves her with someone else on a regular basis, including at least one night on every one of her weekends for the last FIVE months and at times SD will stay up past midnight. I've kept this well documented from teachers emails and notes to discussing it with both her pediatrician and therapist, which SD confirmed to them.

Well since we signed her up for a class, BM HAD to do the same thing because parenting isn't about what's best for the kiddo, it's about looking good and never being upstaged. So BM took it upon herself to announce that she had signed SD up for martial arts class. This was before gymnastics had started and we told her that if she insisted on doing so, we would pull SD from gymnastics since it's not healthy to put a sleep deprived child in a bunch of physically demanding classes. BM insisted that it was only one day per week and if it became an issue that she would stop martial arts. As of last week they had no record of SD6 being signed up so we didn't worry too much about it, now we find out that she is signed up and for a SIX PM class twice per week! At our house, by the time SD has been up for 14 hours, she's going to bed. Up at 7 for summer school, in bed and asleep by 9. Now at BM's, she'll be up at 5 a.m. and after approximately 7 hours of non consecutive sleep, she'll be doing martial arts at that 13 hour mark. Then a 20 min drive home, probably a stop at McDonalds and an hour or two of TV.

Everything that I've read shows that exercising at night can make it more difficult to fall asleep and that it takes 2-3 hours for your cortisol levels to return to normal. The poor kid couldn't even stay awake during SCHOOL on several occasions yet BM thinks that this is a great idea and of course, DH isn't allowed to have an opinion, it's "her parenting time and he's not legally allowed to interfere." She hasn't taken her to the doctor is over two years, hasn't been to her therapy appointments and blew it off last year when she was responsible for taking SD but she's the expert on what is and isn't okay for a kid because she's a daycare "teacher" and took some classes. HAHAHA. I've got calls in to her pediatrician and therapist so we can make sure it's documented that this isn't healthy and we told her that but she did it anyway.

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I.hate.cats's picture

I do so LOVE those double standards!

The therapist and pediatrician have already expressed concerns about SD's lack of sleep and how it affects her health and behavior. It's been an ongoing issue with that since BM hasn't bothered to go to her Dr apts or therapy apts.

I don't care about what BM does, what I worry about is the fact that SD gets less than 8 hours of sleep per night as it is. Last week, after spending 3 days with BM and her ex MIL, SD fell asleep at 6:30 p.m. and slept until we woke her up at 7:30 the next morning. Both her pediatrician and therapist said that's very unhealthy. We're expected to get her there tonight and we had been taking her on Thursday instead of Wednesday, now that's a bust. Overall I'm thinking that maybe we should pull her out of gymnastics because she'll need a break.

I agree that extra curriculars are healthy but both DH and I disagree that two nighttime classes in addition to gymnastics and so little sleep is okay or good for SD. BM can't follow through with an eye doctor apt or drs apt but suddenly she's going to go out of her way twice a week for this? I just think it's pathetic given her sense of priority when it comes to poor SD6

I.hate.cats's picture

I was referring to Alzeka's comment about the schedule with the double standard. However, I do feel that DH gave her ample time to object, look into the program, prepare, etc. BM told him she'd already done it and that was it. I do feel that is unfair.

Yes, she does occasionally however DH wet the bed until he was over 12 so there are some genetic factors and her pediatrician said that there's no benefit to waking her up twice per night, that it disrupts her sleep and she's not learning anything. That if sheshe's worried about the bedwetting which is still considered normal at 6 to that BM should purchase a bedwetting alarm which actually wakes her up if she starts to wet.

DaizyDuke's picture

Everything that I've read shows that exercising at night can make it more difficult to fall asleep

This is not true. Taken straight from web "Despite common belief, exercise actually reduces levels of stress hormones like adrenaline and cortisol. Many people think that you shouldn’t exercise at night because your adrenaline levels will go up and you’ll be awake for hours. This is not the truth: It lowers the levels of those stress hormones and instead stimulates the production of endorphins, the chemicals in the brain that are responsible for the “runner’s high” and feelings of relaxation and optimism that follow many hard workouts. The idea that exercising late at night will rev up your energy is just a fallacy — and that’s it"

Our BS5 does Karate 2 nights a week and shortly will be doing that AND playing soccer. He LOVES it, and it does not affect his sleep at all, if anything I think it makes him a BETTER sleeper because he is actually moving his body throughout the day.

What IS proven is that watching TV, or playing on your phone, IPad etc. prior to bedtime disrupts sleep, as all of those things are actually stimulating. It's also a known fact that your body has an internal clock. If you set your alarm to go off every morning at 5 am, odds are when you are on vacation, you will awake every morning WITHOUT your alarm at 5 am. because you have programed your body to do this. It sounds to me like your SD6 sleep issues are from BM's house, but really not much you can do about that...BM's house, BM's rules

I.hate.cats's picture

http://centerforparentingeducation.org/library-of-articles/nutrition-and...

Except when exercise is too close to betime. With a supposed 8:00/8:30 bedtime, classes that start at 6 p.m. I'd think that would be considered close to bedtime.

BM has a TV in SD6's bedroom which she stays up watching till god knows when. The kicker is when she's at our house she's not getting up at 5 a.m., she sleeps until 7 on summer school days, 9a.m. or so on off days.

Like I said I agree that exercise is good for kids, I just think when she's already getting less than 8 hours of sleep per night she doesn't have the energy for late evening exercise and BM didn't even consider the fact that it would impact her sleep at all.

I know it's her house, her rules but I think it's a bad decision and venting about it on here is about as far as it goes.

I.hate.cats's picture

BM lied to him for quite sometime about bedtime actually being 7:30. I realize that she's not going to change and if I thought for even a fraction of a second that she was doing this because SD had an interest in it or because she thought it would be good for her, I'd be all for it. But the timing of the class is what poses a big issue for us, if she can't stay awake at school, she shouldn't be doing late evening activities.

She suddenly signed her up for something only after DH and I had done so. It's never about SD, just about how BM appears to whatever friends she has or scumbag guy she's trying to make the new "Daddy"

steplife's picture

BM lied? WHAT? No way! Ha...in typical BM fashion just like all the rest. Our BM lies about SD sleep schedules as well,SD7 is visibly exhausted and has horrible sleep patterns especially the 1st two days she's back at our house for the week. The teachers have noticed on BMs weeks how tired SD is, but there's nothing we can do to change it.

SD has trouble sleeping, is ofen irratable and has high anxietyDH and I often wonder if it's because of her sleep schedule and c might consider getting her to see a therapist.

I think if you have letters from Drs. And other officials it could help your argument in court perhaps, but not with BM directly.

I.hate.cats's picture

Exactly. We've kept very good records of things from teachers, social workers, her therapist and her pediatrician. DH has a court date in September to change placement. There are obviously a lot of issues in play with BM and her endless bout of bullshit.

robin333's picture

I get your frustration with BM signing up after you guys. I don't think 3 set activities are excessive. And if BM I'd unreliable, it may be a non-issue.

I absolutely can not exercise in the morning. It is always in evening or night. Also, my DD has a set high intensity activity for 5 to 9pm during school year (also 20+ hours in summer but different hours). Both of us sleep better as a result of our exercise timing.