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My soon to be step daughter hates me

Everyone has stuff's picture

I am a mother of 3 (yrs 5, 8, & 10) and he has 2 (yrs. 9 & 12) children. My kids are very excited we are getting married in 24 days, his son (12) is too but his daughter (9) hates the idea that her dad is getting married again. He has been divorced for 6 years and has let his daughter rule his home as if she was the wife. She picks where they eat, where they go, she always sits in the front seat, if the son or myself tries to eat someplace else she throws a fit and says it's not far and we end up not going where we wanted to go. He won't say the word wedding in front her. When we got engaged he didn't even tell her for 2 days and when she finally found out a friend of hers told her that her mom saw on facebook we were getting married. It's like he is scared of her, she will start throwing a fit when we hug, fit when I stay the night, when he walks me to my car she sits there and watches and then after a few minutes she'll start yelling “I got to go Dad!” At some point he is aware of the problem and is trying to fix it but then after a while he goes back to his old ways.

Am I fighting an endless battle?

buterfly_2011's picture

Join the club my friend! I believe it to be an endless battle and so do many others. Sad. I wish you luck!

firecrackerz12's picture

It is very hard. My DH ended yelling at SD when he got fed up. Saying she is not trying to be your mom. She doesnt want to be your mom. You already have a mom. Then he said until you can be respectful in our home, you will not be allowed back over. BM said he was choosing me over SD but it was nothing like that. I hope it gets better for you but honestly it could also stay like this until her dad puts his foot down.Good Luck

my.kids.mom's picture

I would cancel the wedding myself, but...

How long have you been together? I would not marry until enough time has passed that she realizes you are not taking him away. And HE needs to remove her authority over making the everyday decisions. If she has any say, then all the kids get to pick restaurants, movies, etc. Either all kids have input, or none. I have a daughter like that and I have to constantly put her in check. They are just bossy, critical, always have an opinion, want to know what's going on, etc. I did not raise her that way, it's a personality thing. And it drives me NUTS.

Everyone has stuff's picture

He goes through moments where he has had enough and he stands his grounds but then he'll cave in again. Her fits are so bad the son has started just giving in as well. And to make matters worst the grandmother has babied her for 6 years and has done everything needed above and beyond bc she feels bad for their mom leaving, which now that I'm in the picture the mother is back around wanting to take the kids when she's supposed to.

I have been married before and it didn't come out well he was verbally abusive and I swore I would never find love again. My fiance was my first love, we dated 15 years ago and some how ended up at the same place in our lives and started dating again. Along the way we always say how fate brought us back together and we should have married the first time around. But his daughter is an every week fight. Sad

firecrackerz12's picture

Trying to do the right thing sucks lol especially when you want to just grab SD by the shirt and say I REALLY DONT GIVE A F*CK. lol. Just tell him how you feel and let him know you need him to be a man and if he loves you and cares then he needs to stand up for whats right.

Everyone has stuff's picture

Helena.Handbasket,
Thank you for the link, very informative.... Now how do I share this with my fiance without him thinking I'm calling him a child abuser?

Everyone has stuff's picture

And when I do bring this up he denies that he treats his daughter like his wife.... The way things are going now not so sure there will be a wedding in 24 days.

Orange County Ca's picture

Is this kid going live with you or just weekend visit. If its live cancel the wedding. I'm not kidding - Dad is not going to change her and Dad is not going to change either.

If its visitation only you need to not get involved with the raising of his kids - no discipline - no setting of rules - no nothing. Daddy is completely in charge of his kids and if you don't like sitting in the back seat just don't go. After all the point of the visit is to see Dad not you.

Listen - do NOT try to turn this into one big happy family. It's not going to happen, guaranteed. The best you can do is work a truce with this kid and leave it at that.

This is what I did and I hope you get the point. It's called disengaging now-a-days andin your case it will be non-engaguement.

I wrote this a long time ago and I hope this helps with your problem. It may not reflect your exact situation but you'll get the idea:
The situation with my step-kids finally got to the point where I decided that my efforts to raise them was futile.
First I told my wife in private what I was going to do and why.
Then I stopped investing myself, time and money in their upbringing. I realized that by conscious choice I could cease being responsible for them or their actions. Neither would I take credit for how they turned out, good or bad. I simply stopped interfering in their lives. This is not to say if they would start a fire on the living room floor I would not intervene. But if they did not do the laundry as scheduled I ignored it. Nor did I do any of their chores. If the trash overflowed in the kitchen - well tough. Mom dealt with it when she got home.
You will be absolutely amazed at the look on a kids face when s/he realizes you don't care enough to even tell their bio-parent they did something wrong. And you'll be amazed at their future behavoir and attitude towards you.
I stayed friendly enough and taught one how to drive when she was old enough. But they could no longer blame me for the consequences of misbehaving just because I saw the misbehavoir. I never told. If they were caught in a infraction it was not my fault. They began to realize that they were responsible for their actions because of what they did not because I caught them.
I would talk to my wife in private if I had issues, but once she made the decision I backed her up 100%.
Once the kids realized I was no longer the ogre they thought I was their attitude changed. I was not their friend, but neither was I the enemy. They came to realize that I had not done those things to irritate them. They in fact missed the things that they had come to depend on me doing. Permission to go to the mall when their Mom was not home? "Sorry, can't do that".
Their mother slowly came to realize that I wasn't overreacting to their actions. In fact I wasn't reacting at all. She came to understand that she would have to control the situation and she did.
With that things got much easier around the house.
Billions of kids grew up in the world without help from me and turned out just fine.

Aeron's picture

You're getting married in 24 days and the kid is still throwing a fit if you Hug? And Dad does nothing?

What's he going to do when she starts throwing a fit every night when you guys live together and you're sharing a bedroom? Is he going to go to sleep with her every night? Is he going to pretend you sleep in a different room? If he won't even talk about the wedding in front of her then, he is absolutely putting her ahead of you and yes, it will be never ending.

I had a bit of this issue with my DH, he didn't want to talk about our wedding in front of SD and I told him if this is what it was going to be like, don't worry about it, there wouldn't be a wedding. I never told him to choose between us (though she did), but I did tell him that if we had to basically hide our relationship when his kid was around - even though she was supposed to be In the wedding - I wasn't doing this, I obviously didn't mean that much to him.

Print out the article Helena gave you and give it to him - tell him how interested you were in it because of whatever - your kids, nieces, blah blah and have him read it.

I would also seriously consider putting the wedding on hold until this is solved because this girl will make your life and the lives of your children a living hell. She will expect Everyone to bow to her wishes, that's what she's been taught. So unless you're ok with both yourself and your 3 kids taking a backseat to princess, you and your fiance need to have a talk about how you aren't moving forward until she's no longer running the show. It's not fair to anyone else in the 'family' and you expect to be the only wife in the house. If he can't handle that, then yes it will be a never ending battle.

stepalong's picture

ignore that crap and put her in her rightful place as a 9 year old every chance you get. Dad needs to grow a pair and quit being wierd and remember his child is a CHILD and treat her like one, not like a mini wife. If he can't/won't grasp this, prepare yourself for a nightmarish hellscape. just sayin'

Everyone has stuff's picture

I will try the non-engaguement. I have my feelings prepared to back out if needed. I have told my fiance that for the next 23 days we have to get our kids together as much as possible, mostly for the stepdaughters sake and mine. The non-engaguement is very difficult for me bc most kids and I really get along well. I even have kids ask if they can come stay the night when my kids aren't home (which I never do... IT'S MY KID FREE NIGHT LOL)but I've never met a kid that just doesn't like me, infact before her dad and I started dating she would come stay 2 to 3 nights at a time with my 10 year old daughter. Her definition of someone being nice is someone that does exactly as she says.... so she has started tell her dad that I'm mean to her. He doesn't tell me he agrees with her but he tells me over and over "be nice."

So the non-engagument is my next step.... As much as it kills me to act like someone isn't in the room bc I think it's rude I will do it.

Ondasash's picture

My SD 10 tried to control her dad while we dated but luckily he stopped her little tail. She tries now again for some reason but we're married now. She tries to say she don't like the restraunt my husband and I agree on but it doesn't matter. She has no say in anything. She gets back handed by her dad now when she pops off with the mouth or popped in the back of her head! Lol. Its great to see he doesn't allow her to run stuff. I admire him for this and I think if you just tell your fiance that his daughter needs to understand your taking him away but you are going to be his wife and the adults come up with the descion then maybe he will talk with her and things can change?.

Ondasash's picture

My SD 10 tried to control her dad while we dated but luckily he stopped her little tail. She tries now again for some reason but we're married now. She tries to say she don't like the restraunt my husband and I agree on but it doesn't matter. She has no say in anything. She gets back handed by her dad now when she pops off with the mouth or popped in the back of her head! Lol. Its great to see he doesn't allow her to run stuff. I admire him for this and I think if you just tell your fiance that his daughter needs to understand your not taking him away but you are going to be his wife and the adults come up with the descion then maybe he will talk with her and things can change?.

Everyone has stuff's picture

I personaly think she feels like she has 23 days to stop this and she is going to do whatever it takes to do so. He doesn't think she's old enought to think that way but I disagree and I pray she says something or does something that will open his eyes. While throwing her fits shes really good at running her mouth... just hope between now and June 8th she runs it so much she gives away her plan. The only reason I don't put it past her is bc I have seen little girls do this before and little girls are just mini-woman and I believe that woman can be vicious and conniving when threatened. Shes aware of her dislike for me, she used to have a bag that hung on her wall that said my name and when I would come around and she didn't like me for that day she would hang it back on her wall.

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Oh and to answer the question about the living arrangements they live with him literally 2 1/2 days out of the week and every other weekend.

itshardbeingastepmum's picture

Dont cancel your plans, dont allow this child to have that control over your lives! If you put this wedding on hold she will think she has won and will have complete control over everything. Your husband definitely needs to put a stop to her behaviour and he needs to explain to her that you are not the enemy, you are not there to take her Dad away. I personally wouldnt cancel, i just think that allows her the power she so desire.  She is a 9 year old child and should be firmly put in her place!