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AshMar654's picture

So if you read my earlier post this week you may know my bio-dad is the hospital with cancer. He may or may not make it. I am suppose to go see him this weekend it is three and half hours away.

I have not seen him in almost 9 years have not talked to him in about 5. I know I should go because he could die but a huge part of me does not want to. I do not think I want to open that door. I just do not trust this man and if he does get through this and better I fear for the worst when it comes to him.

This is a man that has cheated on every wife mentally and physically abused them. Mentally abused all his children yelled that he wanted to giv eup rights to us kids just to get at my mom. A man who every time I had a conversation with him it always revolves around him and how bad he is doing and how he is sick or broke. Also a man who has asked my brother many times for money because he can never get over himself enough to realize he is the reason why his life suck and is horrible.

This man who had no intention of doing held a knife to his neck when I was eleven threatening to kill himself in front of me, my mom, and my brother all because my mom wanted to finally get the divorce. When my step-mom said she wanted a divorce and was ready for it to be over he locked her and my younger half brother out of the house for three days. Like he barricaded the doors. Eventually the cops got involved and there was an order against him.

SO how do I go see this man who I have put behind me and speak to him and talk to him. I am not totally heartless I did cry because I feel for my older brother and my younger one. I just do not know how I can sit in the same room with this man who has done so much hurt to those around him. I do not hate him but I have no respect for him at all.

If anyone can give me advice and possibly understand that would be great.

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AshMar654's picture

Just feel it is the right thing to do. If he does not make it through this I said bye I guess.

Maybe part of me wants to see if this will change him, or if he has anything to say to me. My SO is going with me. SS will stay home with my SIL and my mother, he will not know why we are going. Really do not feel like getting into with a 9 year old.

I do not hate him. I guess I just want to say my goodbye if he does not pull through.

AshMar654's picture

I can't start that process because he may make it. Will not know for like another few weeks. I get there is no right or wrong. Just uncertainty at this point. I have no clue what to talk to him about. All I can think of is to say I do not hate him.

SonOfABrisketMaker's picture

Please go see a therapist. Either you will need help navigating his toxicity or you will need serious grief counseling.

lieutenant_dad's picture

Ash, you don't have to be that screwed up to get counseling. It's good to help readjust your compass at major life changes. You've had a lot recently, and you have been seeking a lot of advice. There is absolutely nothing wrong with that; it's actually good to realize when you need help. However, sometimes it's good to see an unbiased third party, especially when you're getting hit in multiple directions.

AshMar654's picture

Thanks. I know I have had counseling in the past when I needed it. I am not against it. sonofabrisket just keeps saying that every time they post nothing else just get counseling. I usually delete it.

Letti_R's picture

Even a broken clock is right twice a day. Smile

No one thinks you are messed up.
Not only messed up people need therapy.

Referring some one to therapy is a way to show you care. You may be dismissing the message because of the messenger.
In this instance it may help you to sort through a very complicated emotional situation in your past and bring you to a point of peace.

Livingoutloud's picture

I am sorry about this horrible situation but I agree that therapy might help you not just with this horrible issue but with other things as well. It’s not a bad advice

lieutenant_dad's picture

A friend of mine, who is one of the most caring and generous people I know (for adopted, foster adopted her kids, is a social worker, etc), didn't see her dad before he died because of a lot of the same issues you already described. She has a small amount of guilt for it, but mostly because of the pressure from other people. She is contented in her decision.

Toxic people are toxic people. All because you share DNA doesn't mean you owe them anything. Don't go, but do find a counselor to help you with this process.

ETA: If you feel like you have to do SOMETHING, write a letter to him. Get your feelings out, then decide if you want to send it. You don't have to include a return address, so he doesn't have to know where you are on the off chance he lives.

AshMar654's picture

Sharing DNA doe snot mean much. I might seek counseling but doubt it. I am pretty well adjusted when it comes to this I have had years to navigate the kind of relationship I want with him or do not want.

I just have to decide what I want to do in this situation and be good with it. I will probably go. There was no fight or argument or anything that caused me to stop talking to him I just did because I just thought it was best. I have been happy and even now knowing he may not make it I am good with what I decided. I do not have regrets just think maybe I should go. Not really sure why totally.

hereiam's picture

I agree that you do not have to go see him, if that is not in your heart, and you should feel no guilt for that decision.

I also agree with getting some counseling, just to give you some peace of mind.

My DH's dad was very verbally/emotionally abusive to him while he was growing up and not really much of a father to him in any way. My DH did come to terms with it (eventually) and forgave his dad, but he did not go visit him after his health started to decline and he was put in a nursing home. We did go to the funeral.

I have asked DH if he has any regrets about not going to see his dad before he died. He absolutely does not.

There are other ways to be supportive of the family members that you do care about, that this is affecting.

AshMar654's picture

Thank You, I appreciate your advice. I think part of my is going to be there more for my younger half brother. My stepmom says he is distant. I think I might get what he is feeling.

Myss.Tique D'Off's picture

Is there any reason that you have to see him this weekend? You have been through a rough week yourself and it may not be the best time for you.

You say he may pull through, even though he has a serious diagnosis. Is there a possibility that you may postpone seeing him for a week or two? Maybe wait for your own feelings to settle first? Even if it is next week or the week there after?

AshMar654's picture

Next weekend SO's sister is out of town so she will not be around my mom will but it is a lot to have SS9 for a whole weekend. He is a good kid but can be exhausting he is high energy.

The following weekend I have things I have to do for work and it is x-mas eve. This weekend works out the best to see him. Plus we live up north and he lives even further north the longer I wait the bigger chance for really cold bad weather.

If I do go just want to get it done.

Myss.Tique D'Off's picture

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Livingoutloud's picture

You aren’t obligated to see him. He sounds like s bad news regardless if he is your father. You don’t have to visit

BethAnne's picture

You wrote nothing positive about going to see him apart from your feelings of obligation as a daughter. He had an obligation to be a good father to you and a good man to those in his life. He failed, spectacularly. You owe him nothing.

If you want to support your siblings, that is different. Support them, be there for them and visit them. But you do not have to see your dad at the same time.

still learning's picture

Your dad is a shell of the man he was before, cancer is literally eating him alive. He can't hurt anyone anymore. I say go and make your peace with him because he is going to die, we're all going to die someday. If he does get better then great. Maybe this experience will change his outlook on life. Either way, you've clearly set a boundary with him by physically staying away for 9 years. You are allowed to "crack the window" if you'd like but by no means do things ever have to go back to the way they were. You're a grown woman who gets to choose which people and energies you want in your life, far removed from the child who was once at everyone's mercy.

AshMar654's picture

Thank you it may change it I am not sure. You are right I can crack a window and shut it back if I choose.

notasm3's picture

My BFF for the past 40 years is one of the most caring, gracious and loving persons I have ever known.

Her parents divorced when she was about 2. She saw her bio father sporadically over the years. When her father became very ill when she was in her late 40s he wanted to come stay with her.

She had no qualms about just turning him away. When he died it really meant nothing to her. She had no guilt what so ever. DNA is meaningless.

twoviewpoints's picture

My question is, did your father ask for you? Did he tell you he wanted you to come?

I ask because if he did not and he is on drugs for pain ect, his reaction to you just walking in after all this time may not be pleasant. Meds talking and all that on top of fear of dying and perhaps even some anger of his own. Just be prepared for such a reception.

This isn't just about you. It's about him too. While you think it's the right thing (and it very well may, for you) you must also consider if it's what he wants or not.

Last word of caution, he may look absolutely frightening. Fragile, thin and whatnot. If you haven't seen him in nine years the change may shake you.

About the counseling. Don't necessarily take that as an insult. Counseling doesn't always mean 'you're that bad'. Lol. It a way of talking to a neutral party who is trained to listen, help you sort your feeling or even to assure you what you believe and/or feel about something is perfectly normal and healthy.

AshMar654's picture

He kept asking my older brother to have me call him. I did call him. No he did not ask me to come up and see him. I also know I will not get a bad reception from him. He will want to see me.

He already looks sickly everyday. He has always been skinny and gangling looking. I will not be surprised by what he looks like. He has always had a sick look to him.

I am not insulted about the counseling remark. Just tired of son's comments always saying I need counseling like I am crazy. Does not say anything else just that. I have been in counseling before.

notsobad's picture

Guilt is a useless emotion. It does nothing but make you feel bad.

I don't know if you meditate but take a few moments, sit quietly and let your mind and heart settle.
You know what to do, you know how to take care of yourself. Give yourself permission to do what you know is best for you.

If it's to go, then go but don't expect him to be a different person.
If it's to stay away, then send up a prayer for him and move on with your life.

Either way say your good byes. Don't give this man anymore or your time, thoughts or self.

MarySmith's picture

I used to listen to Dr. Laura a lot. I thought about half of her advice made sense, and about half was crap. One of the things she said over and over that I totally agree with is that sometimes parents do things that "tear up their parent card". It sounds like your dad tore up his parent card a long time ago. I would not feel a bit of guilt avoiding him for the rest of his life. He's the one who broke the bond, so any guilt should be on his side. Best of luck to you.

Acratopotes's picture

Ash - sending you some strength...

Now, your father is ill, yes you may not like him but he's still your father, go and make peace, say your final goodbey and put it all behind you,
you do this for you, to get closure, not for any one else

Livingoutloud's picture

Honestly if he never asked for you, he might not even want to see you. Did you hear that he was asking for you? Can you ask your brother if dad has been asking?

AshMar654's picture

Thank you everyone for the comments and it has been a struggle for me. I am going up there and I will go see him. He asked me many times over the last several years to call him, he asked my brother to ask me to call him as he wanted to talk to me. I know he will want me to come see him.

I am going for me, I am not going really for him. I will see what he says about everything or maybe we will just talk about the weather. I am have no intention of saying he was a shit parent and pretty much did not raise me. Parents divorced at 11 and before that he was in school and cheating on my mom so he was not really around much that I remember.

I would also like to see my younger half brother and possibly start to create a better relationship with him as I know he does not have much family. Plus it could be good for me too.

Even if he gets better after all this. I think this will be my goodbye to him. Too much damage and pain has been done over the years to really build a relationship with him. I think my older brother feels the same too as he is not falling hand over foot to be here. He said he will try later just can not manage now.

I think if I do not go knowing I am only a little over three hours away I may regret it. I am going and will put it behind me when I return home. If he says something I do not like, I will not engage and move on or just leave.

Thank You everyone.

Aniki-Moderator's picture

Ash, if you DO go, do it because it is CLOSURE FOR YOU.

Just because you have this man's DNA does not mean you owe him anything. {{{{{HUGS}}}}}