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DisengagedSM's picture

My SS 12yrs wants to move in . He currently stays every 2nd wend and this is enough for me . I have 2 young children with DH. He complains about living with BM and her new Ptr. I'm sure our place is more fun with no bed times , school homework etc.
Does anyone have any advice ? I can understand DH wants him to move in but I just have no bond with him at all . I find him annoying , he is not very bright currently failing school . he changes from acting like a teenager back to being a baby and often uses a baby voice with his dad . I think he is Jealous of our two kids.
I have read to disengage which is what I do , this helps somewhat I just leave him up to dad to take care of ! And he basically goes to dad when he needs something .
I just don't get it ? So if the arrangement is reversed am I suppose to be his mother ? Run him around do homework ? When I have 2 kids under 3 and BM only has him ? So she would be putting her feet up with no kids while we have 3 ? I know it sounds mean but I dont want him to move in and I avoid the discussion . Hopefully nothing changes but I'm worried that BM might give in and say she's dine her bit and now he can live with us .

twoviewpoints's picture

It's not BM's problem that your DH choose to have two more kids. Don't compare your home of possibly having three kids while you envision BM sitting in her home with her feet propped up with no kids. Your DH has three kids. You have two kids. BM has chosen to have one kid.

And, no, you would not be expected to be 'mother' to the older child. Why would you think your SS moving in meant you play Mom? Homework would be on SS and if help needed, Dad. Getting dinner on the table something to work out with your DH. Remember , three kids are his. The idea of men making babies and then having the woman (you or BM) be the total caretaker of his offspring is ridiculous. He should be helping you with your two children and he should be seeing and caring for his third and oldest child more.

If you are currently doing all the 'work' and child rearing in your home, that's on you. Tell your Dh to get up and help you.

I'm not saying your SS should absolutely move in, but you do need to look at the situation differently than you currently are. If BM died tomorrow , your DH would indeed have his older child fulltime 24/7 365. Just because you and Dh chose to enlarge your family does not waive DH of his father duties and responsibilities to his first child.

An ideal schedule for a child would be 50/50, not one lousy weekend a month. Why should your SS only have a father two or three days a month? You could pop out another four kids and SS would still be your DH's responsibility to parent and care for. Why he may have divorced his ex wife, he should not be considered free and divorced of his oldest child.

If your Dh wants to have his son in his home more, perhaps he could start with increasing his very small visitation time. To have married your DH believing you should never have to bother with your SS being around because SS was BM's 'job' to raise and tend to was not realistic thinking on your part. Your DH has a much responsibility to your SS as he does towards your younger children. No, you do not, but your DH does.

Why has your Dh not set simple parenting tasks such as a bedtime? While you can not expect a 12yr old to go to bed when a 2yr old would, you have every right to expect the kid to go to his bedroom and at least be quiet and read a book (if not go to sleep) at a reasonable hour. SS is also old enough to be doing his own laundry, doing some household task and using the internet to find homework assistance and having his father review and check his work. I think you'd be hard pressed to find any parent who literally sits next to their kid doing line after line of any school assignment .

DisengagedSM's picture

My SS does not stay " one lousy wend a month " he stays every 2nd weekend as I said in my post above . He also stays half the holidays and other times mutually agreed on. And what if he did ? I don't set the times he stays this is something worked out b/w My DH and his ex . I find your comments to be rude and not supportive like the other person below who called me not a nice person but also didn't read the post correctly .
I thought this site was suppose to be a place to vent and get support from other people in similar situations .
I guess I was wrong . Can I suggest next time you reply to other people you do so in a nicer way and be supportive. You don't know the full situation that anyone is going thru . My SS has some learning issues amongst other problems so you may be "hard pressed to find any parent who literally sits next to their kid but this is not the case in my house . My DH tries his best with him but it is hard and I'm am flat out with two young kids . So sorry if you think I'm the asshole but I think you are goodnight I won't be back. Thanks for nothing .

twoviewpoints's picture

So did you come to get advice and other perspectives on your situation, or did you come to beat on members who took the time to respond to you?

Every second week in my area would mean you have the child literally every week #2. *shrugs* And no where did I call you any names or state you were an *sshole.

Everyone is welcome to join and post here. Not everyone who responds to your postings will agree with you and yes, you may hear some advise you either weren't expecting to hear or that you believe is unhelpful and//or pure rubbish.

It is a venting site. No one is denying the privilege of venting and I took the time to read and respond to your post. No one here can "know" your full situation. *We* can know solely what you chose to tell us in your original postng. I responded to what you have written. It was not mean, nor was it meant to be an attack on you. It was merely my interpretation of what you , yourself, gave to respond to.

You're quite welcome to continue to post and no one , including myself, implied otherwise.

DisengagedSM's picture

I appreciate you taking the time to read and respond to my post . Maybe I didn't explain myself very well I meant every other wend but I've always said every 2nd wend .and this appears to have got you and others offside . Anyway regardless as I first time poster I was taken back by your response you may not have intended this but I was upset by it . I felt that I was under attack and expected that people might respond with helpful suggestions etc ( which some did ) you will continue to write how you see fit . But I ask you to pls consider people's feelings I'm ok I am a strong woman who is over it . But others might not be and pls remember people come here ( as I'm sure you are aware ) that are feeling lost or upset .

SugarSpice's picture

disengagedsm, i know how annoying it is to see a 12 year old boy on the brink of puberty pull the baby voice on his father.

try not to take comments on the site seriously or be offended as every one has a different take on what is going on.

read and take what you can from the comments you get.

i wish you well. you have a difficult situation with your ss wanting to move in. he is still a child but children have an enormous amount of power to destroy a marriage and they know it.

SonOfABrisketMaker's picture

Yes, you would have 3 kids in your house. However, it's not like BM dumped off a toddler on you. SS should be able to feed and bathe himself. DH can take up the slack, it's his kid.

DisengagedSM's picture

Yes I guess . I'm just complaining because I find him hard to be around ! But yes I wouldn't have to do much at his age . Thanks

DisengagedSM's picture

It has crossed my mind it does all the time ! that he will probably live with us one day and I accept this . I'm just worried because I find him hard to be around and I'm worried that if he moves in he will never move out .

DisengagedSM's picture

Yeah right ! Maybe a hot young male nanny yes ! A girl no way ! I've told DH if we ever had enough money for a nanny she would def be the very mature variety Biggrin

Disneyfan's picture

If He's crazy enough to go along with that, hopefully there is someone I his circle that will give him a quick kick in the behind.

OR, perhaps he has a friend that will tell him to walk away from all of his kids. Really, if one weekend a month with dad is good enough of one kid, then it should be good enough for all of them. }:)

If living with dad is what is best for the kid, then that is where he should be.

Indigo's picture

Consider that SS-12 spends 24 nights with his father each year. Those nights are likely not dedicated or one-on-one. SS has to compete with 2 half-siblings that are likely much cuter and much more demanding of attention, plus a SM who thinks he is stupid and intrusive. Poor kid.

He likely would do better with any 50/50 visitation variation --- one week on/one week off --- with his father. You may vent a bit here, but you likely are still a better option for the boy. You sound like an underprepared, overwhelmed woman who planned for one future and is facing a different one.

I imagine that you do not feel the same towards SS as you do to your own little spawn --- welcome to Biology. Most of us in any style step-situation wished we could feel something more positive toward the skids/sgkids. Children by other parties to our primary relationship are resource-sucking, attention-unit-limiting sources of competition.

Forgive yourself for that nasty, selfish tendency we all seem to feel and think of your DH. This boy is half of him. SS deserves to know and spend time with his father. 24 nights/year is not nearly enough consistent time for your DH to parent effectively. Heck, your house rules for toddlers don't apply for teens; but DH has not the time to even establish any guidelines. He needs to focus on developing their relationship. So, I'd suggest that you release some of the fear and figure out some positive ways to manage increased visitation.

DisengagedSM's picture

Hi Indigo I agree with some of yr comments . And they make sense . But let me say he stays every 2nd wend and half the holidays plus more when my DH doesn't have any work . The first person who replied said incorrectly said he stays " one lousy wend a month " which is not correct and everyone seems to be going with this ! And making us out to be assholes which we are not . I really don't need this at
as already feeling upset .
Maybe I am overwhelmed ATM I haven't had much sleep with baby and a toddler who struggles to go to bed . I know one day it will probably happen I guess I am just worried as I find SS most annoying . He has a few issues and I guess I am worried once he moves in he will probably never move out . But I do love DH very much and he loves SS so I will work it out . Thanks for your reply .

lieutenant_dad's picture

As a stepparent, you always have to be prepared for your stepkid(s) to move in full-time. Custody can change at any time for any number of reasons.

If SS is struggling with BM, it might be best for his Dad to try and turn it around. Your home is your SS's home, and your DH has just as much responsibility in raising SS as BM does - and just as much responsibility as he has to your kids.

Does that mean you are responsible for SS? No, but you also can't tell your DH that his son can't live with him so he can raise him. The only real way out for you is disengagement or to not live there anymore. It's a sucky set of options, but as an adult, they are the choices you have.

witch.hazel's picture

You should be able to vent your feelings somewhere without reprisal, and we all know how difficult that is IRL.

If this ss would have been an older teen or young adult, I would have said to make sure it doesn't happen. But he is only 12, and boys need to be with their fathers if possible during puberty. It's a lot different from being with mom. And something may be wrong with the way BM's new partner is treating him if he suddenly wants to make that change.

Your DH has the right to live with his child as you do yours. A compromise to set some ground rules for all children in the house may help. Whatever you may dislike about him also may change with the influence of dad and yourself.

DisengagedSM's picture

Thank you for your reply . I agree it is very hard to vent IRL ! I find that you can't talk to anyone without looking like the ass@ole. I suspect the BM ptr is struggling with him moving in . It's very hard to live with someone else's child esp when your personalities are so different and the child has some issues. But if course a bio parent will see past this as they have the love and bond there that steparents don't . Maybe we could look at increasing the time rather than doing a complete reverse of care . I m just not sure how to get on with him better but I will figure it out and as you say with some more structure and rules or boundaries it may get easier .

lieutenant_dad's picture

Also, FYI, the reason people kept putting about the one weekend a month is because of your OP and the fact that some of the posters made comments before you included more info. Disneyfan responded Saturday night, but you didn't reply to twoviewpoints' poster until Sunday. Disney was basing it off of you saying "2nd weekend", which many would interpret as just the 2nd weekend of the month, not every other weekend which is what I assumed you meant.

Replies don't show up in fully sequential order, so if you reply to a post at the top, that doesn't mean a post at the bottom came after you posted.

Acratopotes's picture

Not a problem at all for SS to move in, but before this can happen... DH will confirm that there will be rules and he will back me up when implementing such rules in his absence. SS must know that I'm not his mother but he still will listen and respect me...

When this is confirmed and established... SS will start the new house rule life for a couple off months till CO states full custody and BM paying CS.
This is also enough time to make sure SS is following the rules and for DH to make sure you are respected.

DisengagedSM's picture

Thank you for your reply . Yes maybe it's the lack of rules or boundaries that makes me stressed . He's ok at times but most if the time I feel I just can't relax in my own home . I don't want him coming in my room or sometimes he lies in our bed . I just bite my tounge! I have said a few comments ( im not a pushover ) and do stand up for myself initially when he tried to control me a bit etc he soon learnt to back off . I'm always polite to him but Most of the time I use disengage cause I can't handle all the questions etc convo etc I leave him to his dad !

Acratopotes's picture

oh hell NO...

that's rule number

1.... you will not set foot in the adults bedroom or bathroom..., this will sort out the bed using as well and if DH says anything about it tell him to get out of the room, you are not going to share your room, over and done with, it's the only personal space you have in a whole house, thus keep it that way. Stop biting your tongue woman take control, you are the adult.

2. I'm not your mother do not ask me anything, if you behave I will do it out of free will, but for now ASK YOUR DAD...

twoviewpoints's picture

House rule #1, no coming into your bedroom. He must knock at door (even if perhaps door is open) and wait to be acknowledged. If necessary, install a lock on the door so he can not just walk-in.

SugarSpice's picture

the marital bedroom should be off limits to the children. all of them. his inviting himself to your bed and bed room is a way of taking over "your space." its trying to make it his territory.

a bed is a symbol of the marital bond.

he needs to show some respect for your privacy and authority.

i can understand he is 12 but he is almost hitting puberty. he will be h*ll as a teen if you dont put down rules now.

you will feel better when he is not always trying to get the upper hand in the house.