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dbachman's picture

It's be almost 3 weeks now and while my wife never set boundaries for SD, I did.. I told her that SD was not welcome in our house when I was there any other time when I was not there would be tolerable. Well today SD txtd BM and wants to drop off her kids and go play baseball. We had them last weekend and will have them next weekend. I told my wife that we had an agreement that she would not come around when I was here. My wife says I need to forget about it and move on. I feel like she never had my back in the first place and now she wants me to normalize relations with SD without so much as an apology in fact no communication whatsoever. What do you guys think? Now my wife gets in her car and is gone to I don't know where. Should I just bag the whole thing and be single? Sounds good to me right about now...Thanks for any comments..

CANYOUHELP's picture

Depends, do you think this is mission impossible? You are absolutely going in the right direction, because if your wife is unable to parent her daughter enough to respect you in your own home, there is no woman or man worth taking this abuse. What, she calls you names like that???? Nobody would blame you for not being able to pretend to like a person using profanity at you. Your doormat wife, who is not requiring an apology, nor respect, apparently sees no need (like so many remiss parents), to hold their own child accountable for being a decent human being. These poorly raised kids do not even respect their own parent(s), it is so sad. If they did, they would never act like this in the first place.

If I had to be around mine (husband does not insist I do), this marriage would be over too. It is a shame because I would have loved it to work, but in just did not; he like your wife, cannot seem to correct them or step up to the parent role ever, regardless of what they say or do to others (and it is not limited to me). They have turned out accordingly. We have a wonderful marriage, as long as I never have to see or hear from them now. It actually was a life changer to erase them from my life and marriage. HE has to deal with their BS now, not me, as it should be. it is not perfect, but I cannot tell you how much better I am, without the stress and being target of whatever their dysfunction.

You are on the right track by protecting yourself from this on-going and supported abuse of you. If you cannot get it through your wife's head that you are her husband and she continues to drop all this in your lap, regardless of how you feel, you may start some strategic planning to find a happier way to live. I would.

SacrificialLamb's picture

Doesn't sound like your wife listened to a word you said. Doesn't sound like your opinion matters. Just move on, she says. Otherwise, you're making life difficult for her and she doesn't want that. On top of that, you're expected to be babysitters for SD's kids every weekend? No thanks. I would be out.

IslandGal's picture

"My wife says I need to forget about it and move on.".. Not only would I move on..I'd move right on out.

No way would I live with someone who has so little respect for me that they'd allow their adult kid talk to me like shit and then be told to get over it. Eff that noise sideways.

still learning's picture

It sounds like DW expected you to suck up and take SD's abuse like she probably has for many years. DW read you the text, when she should have kept it to herself and dealt with her daughter separately. She threw this nastyness in your face then tells you just to forget it. It's good that you're setting boundaries w/SD and not allowing her to disrespect you in your own home.

I'd tell DW that SD can come around after she gives you a face to face sincere apology for her text (don't worry, this will probably won't happen anytime soon if ever). Then let DW know that you prefer her to keep communications between her and SD to herself, even if it's about you. After several months of passive aggresive second hand messages from ss, I had to tell DH that I didn't want him to tell me anything that ss32 said about me. I honestly don't care what a jobless, stoned 32 yr old manchild thinks of me.

Maybe being single is best for you or maybe DW can teach her daughter some manners and you two can live happily ever after.

MadHatter's picture

Would it make any difference if SD apologized? I believe that the real problem is with your wife and how she has chosen to disrespect your boundaries. I think a serious conversation with her would be in order.

jam's picture

Wow! Just incredible. Rude & abusive skids and the "your insignificant" statements from bio-parents.

"forget about it", "move on", "that's history", "press on", "suck it up", "water off a ducks back", "its no big deal", etc. It's like you are supposed to be the middle of an oreo cookie, soft & sweet while being pressed on each side.

I can relate with you but at the moment I suck at boundaries so I really don't have any advise.

I watched a "Judge Judy" episode the other day. BM and Stepdad suing the stepdaughter for throwing a fit and breaking their big screen tv and damaging their car. Unemployed irresponsible SD lived in state provided housing. SD wanted her bm to watch an irresponsible friends baby for an undetermined amount of time (possibly weeks or months), and became angry when stepdad said "NO!" The sd had the nerve to say that it was between her & her mom and none of stepdads business.

I loved Judge Judy's reply "He is not delivering a pizza, he lives there!"

Sometimes it just seems like we are delivering pizza Sad

All I can say is Good Luck!

ldvilen's picture

Love that line, "Sometimes it just seems like we are delivering pizza," and love Judge Judy. Great way to sum up what it feels like being a SP to a non-SP. Living in a home or being out with your husband and his children, and feeling like you are just the Pizza Delivery Man.

notasm3's picture

I gave my adult SS now 32 multiple chances over the past almost decade. Even DH acknowledges that I tried. That ship has sailed, been torpedoed and sunk.

SS is no longer allowed in my home even if I am out of town. My DH can have whatever relationship he wants with his son and grandson. Just not in MY homes.

Works perfectly for me. And if it's not perfect for DH, he's smart enough to keep his mouth shut and not complaint.

mathfed's picture

My wife and I just went through something similar with her youngest son. He is 19, and an adult. He is extremely bipolar to the point that he flies into rages and gets violent. He knows he has a problems with his mental health, but won't do anything to help himself. He is also a drug user. About a month ago, we found out he was on a bus heading back to where we live. I believe he had every intention of trying to force himself in with us. I asked my wife if her son was carrying. She said she didn't know, and gave me a kind-of wishy washy statement about trying to find out. I texted her son directly, and told him if he brings any drugs through the door, I call the cops. His reply?

"You know you're a real piece of shit. Just because you can't see your fucking mom doesn't mean I don't want to see mine. I AM HER FUCKING KID. YOU'RE JUST SOME PIECE OF SHIT SHE MARRIED. I KNOW SHE CAN AND HAVE SEEN HER DO BETTER THAN YOU. CALL THE COPS ON THAT ASSHOLE."

My mom passed away from cancer when I was 21. I decided right then that he has talked like that to me for the last time. I blocked his phone numbers, and blocked every other way he could possibly try to contact me. I told my wife that our marriage is over if her son sets one foot in the house. She will start having my back with him, or I'm out. I was ready to pull the plug. I had had enough. She can have her relationship with her son, but leave me out of it. I will not be around him, and will not have my children around him. I'll end the marriage to make sure we are safe if that's what it takes. Under no circumstances is this person to step foot in the house. I can't make the decision for her to stop putting up with his abuse, but I am making it for myself and my two young sons. If it means the end of the marriage, then that's what it means. I was done.

We've had a tense month. My wife has continually enabled her son regarding his behavior. He had gotten used to using rage and abuse to get what he wants. She started going to counseling to get better at dealing with him. I'm really proud of her for this. Our marriage is getting back on track. I will have nothing more to do with her son. If he was drowning, I'd toss him a brick. He is abusive to everyone around him, dropped out of high school, won't work, and uses drugs. He's done everything he can think of to split us up.

sandye21's picture

Matfed, I recall your posts about the horrific time your were having with your SS. Many of us suggested you do what you have to as to protect yourself and your children. Glad to see you did it. Also good your wife decided to seek help for herself and the enabling and risking the safety of the rest of the family. It takes someone with a lot of training to deal with mentally ill people who are violet and aggressive. Your wife wants to be a good Mother but sometimes there is nothing one can do except protect themselves and their loved ones. Good luck. You did the right thing.

enuf's picture

MATHFED One of my ds is also an addict and alcoholic. He was beaten really badly, both his jaws were fractured and his mouth had to be wired shut. He eye socket was also damaged apart from other things. He had no place to go, so I took him him, for him to heal. He could not do drugs while in my home and he started to heal. My place is small and it was a trial having him hear him constantly moaning, both of us being indoors all day, as the temps. were reaching 115 degrees outdoors. He was with me about 2 monthsl, after a while he would go out once in a while. He was still not completely healed and one day he came home and I suspected he was on something, he went into his room to take a nap, a little while later I went in to retrieve something that I needed that he had taken into his room. As I bent down he woke up and started to rage at me, I walked out and went into the living room, he came after me at got right in my face, he is 6'2" calling me a F**king whore and so forth, I thought he was going to beat me up. It was then that I realized that this was not my son, as he had become another person under the influence. I got my phone to call the police, and asked him to leave. He took my phone but thankfully he knew I was serious and walked out, on the way out he was making fun of me and still raging.

That is when my heart hardened and I made a vow that I would never see him again until he got treatment and his life in order. He was so used to me helping him before. I realized that I had been enabling to become what he became. Thereafter, he would come knocking at my door begging me to open it. One time through the door he said he had just gotten out of the hospital, had no place to go, and needed help. Through the door I told him again," I do not ever want to see you until you get your life in order", he even asked for a glass of water as it was over 100 degrees outside. I refused to do even that, as I would not open my door under any circumstance. I have not seen him since and it has been at least 8 months. I imagine he will come knocking again. However, should I give in until he gets treatment, I am contributing to his substance abuse. He is my son and I love him, however I will die without ever seeing him again if he does not help himself. I will not give in one inch, as I could not live with myself should something happened to him because of substance abuse. I have tried to get him into a program before and he has refused many times. Time to let go and let God and that is how I have dealt with my son. My resolute is made out of concrete on this issue.

Your wife is contributing to her son being the way he is and unless she stops what she has been doing, he will get worse. You are absolutely right in protecting your self and your children. Do not give in under any circumstance, it may help if you explain to your dw that you will not enable your ss to be the person he has become or worse, because it will end in a bad place for him. Stand your ground, and it sounds that you have. Your dw seems to have chosen you by going to therapy, however if she sees you weakening on your stance it will be easy to go back to how things have been, as that is all she has known, and that is what has been normal for her.

Way to go on rejecting such awful and cruel behavior from ss!

SugarSpice's picture

enuf i am so sorry to hear this about your son. the hardest thing in the world for a loving parent to do is the tough love approach as you have.

for many they take the path of least resistance and enable the child.

too many times parents enable their children who have mental problems and addictions from drug or alcohol to social media and game addictions. you do them no favours by enabling.

op you must protect your self and your family. if your wife wont see the problem and danger clearly you must take action.

fairyo's picture

'Time to let go'- I did this with my own son several years ago- I had gone through years of trouble with him. It broke my heart, but I couldn't assist him in his lifestyle any longer. Within months he had found a girlfriend and slowly (it still isn't easy), very slowly he's turning his life around. There are no quick fix easy answers here- I went to counselling and got it all off my chest- it did help- but that woman coming into his life was a God send. I know the concrete I had to place around my heart and it is still there- but my issue now is that DH is going through the same with his son and I cannot be part of that sponge he has for a heart...I can't get that through to him at all.

SugarSpice's picture

such good news fairyo. you know the saying that a good woman can turn a man around.

"concrete around the heart" is such a good way to put it. i am sorry to hear about your ss and your husbands inability to give tough love.

fairyo's picture

My ex was pretty much the same- I sent my DS to stay with his dad and give me a break, but he never came back 'cos his dad would let him smoke weed and have his friends round etc etc. My ex once gave me a lecture on the 'unconditional' love parents should have for their kids- but it was him, not me, who put his hands around his son's throat one night and threatened to kill him!
Now all that is in the past thank goodness, but I'm playing a waiting game that SS won't be long before there's caused another crisis and DH is rushing to his side saying,' there, there.' Makes me want to throw up...

SugarSpice's picture

fairyo, i am so sorry about this. your dh has to learn on this own that he needs to be a strong parent and not a push over.

it appears your ex wanted to make his own son his friend by being permissive. this is parental enmeshment and its not healthy.

my dh wanted to make his skids his friends by being permissive too. his reason was oh they are just kids etc. let them have their fun. i want to be with my own children since i miss so much of them growing up.

the result of this lax parenting was creating entitled monsters who threaten him if they dont get what they want usually in the form of expensive things. dh is always rushing to the sides of skids from car accidents to paying bail.

dh is so needy for their approval that he wants to invite the skids friends over. no thank you. if the skids wanted to bring guests they can ask themselves. no use in tripping over your self to get your childrens approval. it makes you look needy and weak.

Rags's picture

I am not one to consider ending a marriage due to a SKid's bullshit but..... if your DW cant figure out that there needs to be established and enforced behavioral standards in the home and that she needs to hold her kid accountable then she may be a write off.

Good luck and take care of you.