When the Twit nonsense showed up on the answering machine, DH called back because, quite frankly, she wasn't making any sense. DH didn't have a clue as to what she was talking about that had her so upset.

That is a typical thing with Twit, she doesn't make sense a lot of the time, especially when she isn't getting her way.

DH is in the bedroom n the phone listening to her sobs etc. Should be interesting.

As I say, them birds are coming back to roost on Twit real hard.

I am soooo glad we are no longer near her though the scorching heat and fires are something I haven't experienced before. Dang.

DH finished talking to her and said he wanted to go clear his head before he told me her sad sob story.

A usual, when she isn't getting what she wants or things aren't going her way she tends to babble and not make sense. IMHO that is pretty much all of the time.

Well, here are the details.

Baby is devastated over this because he didn't see it coming. Twit is upset because HOW DARE that ______ throw over her wonderful son.

And, she has trouble with the pots and pans since she sent out that letter in January wanting everyone to buy something for the BTB. Seems many did (her hubby's family) and now they want their money back!!! Apparently because they are her hubby's people she can't say anything bad about them to him so she calls DH and bawls about what is she going to do.

She claims she doesn't have the $$$ to refund them and, according to DH, was hinting that perhaps he could pony up and help her out. DH told her that it was too bad, but she was going to have to come up with the bucks somewhere.

Folks, don't even start to feel sorry for Twit and her finances, her hubby pulls in over $125,000 a year and she sells pots and pans. She is broke because she and he spend it all. They have to have the best of things.

DH told me hell would freeze over before he give her a dime. That, as we said, she started pushing that pot an pan shower/bridal stuff way too early.

And, of course, according to Twit, the girl is a ho, etc. and worthless for throwing over her baby. She so wanted grandkids, she told DH.

Anyway, I guess there is more but when DH told me she wanted money from us to pay off her hubby's people I had enough. Unbelievable is all I can say.

I guess nothing else has changed....her Drunkie is still drinking and she is still enabling him; the other 400+ one is still working part time as a checker. She keeps them close and, oh what is the word I am looking for, dependent so they need to rely on her.

Have a questions that doesn't involve Twit directly but does in the great scheme of things.

What could possibly go on in that house that would have a young man gain so much weight? The 400 pounder was well on his way to that weight in high school. And why in the heck didn't Twit do something back then to try to keep him from getting to that weight?

Could this be the reaction to some type of trauma? Then the middle one, who served time in the Marines, is still, the moment he got back home, dependent on MaMa Twit. She would actually go take his packages to the USPO for him so he didn't have to! Of course, while he was in the service she balanced his check book for him...always laughed that by doing this she could keep track on what he was doing while on base, off base, etc. IMHO, the Marine should have been taking care of his own finances.

As for Drunkie, what can I say. Though no one admits sit, it isn't just booze. He was thrown out of high school for having drug stuff in plain view in his car. Twit claims that he doesn't do drugs, just drinks but I never bought that. Not that I have proof, but one with such a disposition doesn't just give drugs up. My guess is there is a lot more too that line than Twit would ever let on. She does like to lie about how perfect her family is. Obviously she is just fooling herself.

Those boys never had a chance.

Hmm, Got a second call, on the machine, from Twit blubbering and crying about who knows what BUT she does need DH's assistance, she wailed. Probably looking for $$.

DH, bless him, just erased it and started breakfast. He muttered as he did so that she has to fix her own life.

Yeah!!! It has taken a LONG time and trust me, I am not going back to crazyville again.

One thing that has come out is that when we were told, when we lived back by Twit, that Drunkie has been taken to the hospital because of blacking out, being comatose from drink there is more to that story. Got it from Twit's hubby...seems that wasn't the only time. This time Twit wouldn't call an ambulance but drove the Drunkie to a hospital in a neighboring town. Clearly she didn't want anyone to know about the situation. AND, we understand that the Drunkie also may have tried to commit suicide and had a 7 day hold on him.

That is why a lot of things got quiet with Twit about the Drunkie back then. She doesn't want any one to know. As I see it, and this is just a guess, her pot and pan friends are probably starting to move away from her. I mean, when someone complains about poor her, her Drunkie is blah, blah blah, and then continues to allow the same behavior over and over, people notice. And once it ratchets up as it did, people start to wonder what is really going on.

Even I was reluctant to talk about this. Yes, Twit threatens suicide all the time. But no one knows it (until the time DH called the local police dept. concerned) except us.

This stuff with her baby is much more serious and says a lot more.

DH and I knew that for away and while it was not our problem we do care for the Drunkie. In fact, the situation was pretty hard for us to process as we are so use to Twit crying wolf. I mean there is no way I am taking him in, but I feel for him. He really doesn't stand a chance and it IMHO opinion is only a matter of time. You can bet Twit worked very hard to keep this hush, hush (heck, she never even told DH) because it totally blows her image of being perfect, the perfect mother, etc.

DH and I pray for the young man daily. And, friends, I have to say it is heavy on our hearts.

BTW, this all happened when we still lived back there. Before and just after Father's Day in 2016.

But, Twit is PERFECT, she and her hubby know how to handle all. Just ask her and she will tell you.

So now Twit leaves a message absolving herself of having to pay these folk back. After all, she claims, they bought the pot and pans so they will just have to keep them.

Of course, as per the Twit pattern, she is responsible for nothing, not even putting the arm on the family to cough up. It is never her fault.

One more reason to stay away from those kind of businesses....you can't return something. At least at some store like Williams-Sonoma, etc. you could return the item within a reasonable period of time.

She is still crying for help with $$$ and DH is still leaving her alone. As far as I know he hasn't called her back because if he did she would not be still looking for $$ and sympathy.

Gosh, I am so glad we are hundreds and hundreds of miles away from Twit. Though I have to say, sometimes just hearing her voice on the answering machine I can feel myself tense up

Sandye - You are right. If she didn't buy those pots and pans people paid for, for the BTB, she is in big do do.

I hope she has a credit card she can get a cash advance on. I recall several years back she was telling DH how they re-fied their mortgage, again, and took out all the equity.

One thing....she isn't going to tap into me for a penny. But her course of action will be to cry to DH and then go after me, to him, because I am the bad one, etc. Hey, worked for her before. But now times are different. DH knows it too. He finally realized what she was doing.

I can remember when, the last year we were there, after YEARS of ignoring him for Father's Day or inviting us over and then leaving, etc. she suddenly, out of nowhere invited him out to dinner on Father's Day. DH was thrilled. Until, on the car ride home it comes out (now that she had wined and dined him) that she wanted him to help her babies put new windows and doors in. THAT, was the real reason for the invite....not Father's Day.

Twit herself will tell you she loves getting things free and cheap.