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camobo's picture

This has been a damn rollercoaster. First both steps were an issue but now SS15 isn't really an issue besides the concern that he is probably going to live with us throughout his 20s. I'll cross that bridge when it comes. SD12... where do I begin. She's a brat. She used to be an evil brat who said really messed up things. Not just to me. Except for her dad Everyone including her mom admits she's always been a brat. Eventually she leaves herself in therapy so she now knows to keep the really messed up stuff in her head. I can't get her to do anything. Things like take a shower are a nightmare. Plus agesa little theive. When money started disappearing i moved my wallet and DD2 piggy bank to my locked office. I knew it was her the moment she asked where her baby sisters piggy bank went. Dh tells me "she probably just noticed is all. Doesnt mean its her." This morning she woke up and asked me to sign something. I said ok. Clearly she tore it off the papers I was supposed to read before signing. Asking to see the paper PISSED her off. Telling me she doesn't like MY CHOICES. Her dad chimed in and asked what it was about. A project. So he asks why we can't read it. Its none of our business and she hates us (as she dug the paper out of her backpack) she wouldn't stop going on and on about her disapproval. Her dad just kept telling her to change the subject/eat breakfast. I finally got irritated and told her I hate her choices because last time she had a project she had known about it for 3 weeks (cell model) and didn't tell me until the afternoon before where I had to make a cake and help her decorate/label it until 11pm. She's like "we got it done didn't we!?" Grrrrrrrr! I tell her not only am I not going to help her with this project but she can also go to school with ratty hair. That shut her up. Girl can't brush her own hair and next to my craft room it's the second thing she loves about me. This was just in the morning but crap happens all the time and her dad let's her get away with it. He also has me doing all his child rearing. He's just there to hang out. I got Internet just so I could punish her by turning off the WiFi because nothing works when she's all nutso slamming doors and making threats. DH tells me she's not a dog and I shouldn't hold WiFi over her head like a dog. He tells me- after the kids get on the bus that I should've done her hair because she cried about it after I left the room. I'm sorry but he has never agreed with any form of discipline yet has none to offer so what am I supposed to do? Clean her room? No he says she doesn't know how and I should go in there and show her by example. Wtf is that. She's an honor roll student but you want to tell me she's too stupid to know how to pick up her room? I know she's a kid and can be sweet but when I give her an inch she takes a mile. I think the real issue is DHs lack of help and when I try to talk to him about him not helping he turns around and says I hate his daughter. If I am just talking about her and not him he goes "ya shes a brat you just gotta keep trying until you find a way that works" basically what I've learned is I have to "fix" her without discipline. How? Anybody know? I'm so close to leaving because this is not what I want my daughter thinking is ok or a normal way of life.

camobo's picture

Yep. Writing this gave me more courage to explain super clearly without missing a note how I feel and needing a solution. After arguing for 5 minutes about how his life is so stressful and I need to be positive all the time. I suggested getting me high all the time to make that possible (joking of course. Couldn't resist showing him how annoying it is when he does it) I just got quiet and said never mind I'll deal with it. He squeezed my boob and said was that do hard. I wanted to punch him but instead I'll just shut down until I make other living arrangements. Surprise him when he comes home and all our stuff is gone. Glad I started working last year against his wishes and we definitely don't share bank accounts.

oneoffour's picture

My replies to his arguments:

Dad, you do her hair. She is your daughter, not mine.

A dog doesn't care about the Internet. So a dog doesn't really care if the Internet is working or not. So that argument is not valid. However if you think I am punishing her for bad behaviour, you have that right. If the worst thing that ever happens is she loses WiFi access for a few days, she is getting off lucky.

It is a shame that your daughter has never been shown how to clean up her room. After all, she is YOUR daughter. I wish I could help her but (shrug your shoulders) as she is your flesh and blood her behaviour reflects on you not me. Her slamming doors says more about you than me. So when she is in college and has no friends because she has never been taught to get along with people or be organised ... well I guess that wouldn't be my fault because I am not her parent.

If you think her behaviour is acceptable you are in for a helluva wake up call. Her temper tantrums are her way to control everyone. Sort her out before we walk out.

camobo's picture

Omg yes! Exactly. I came into her life when she was 8. I feel like a bit half their food, cook all their meals, clean their dishes, and do their laundry. I have the whole rest of the house to clean. The least they could do for me is be nice and wash themselves. He has them (mainly her) convinced I'm a servant. It's making me resent them bad. Sometimes I wonder if things I get mad at are a real issue or if it's just everything bundled up as one. Their mom is on my side. But I get in trouble when I discuss things with her. At least I don't have that baby mama drama! The boy has never been rude. He used to be whiny but I guess out grew it. His grades were so bad (dad blamed mom) that the high school refused to accept him. Which was a blessing because we gave a school in our area for lazy/slow kids. So he no longer has straight Fs. Yaay. That and ever since I bought him a kitten he's been completely taking care of it and picking up his own room because the kitty is a little terror Smile not to mention at least the 15 year old backs me when he sees his sister is being a total br
at!

camobo's picture

Omg yes! Exactly. I came into her life when she was 8. I feel like a bit half their food, cook all their meals, clean their dishes, and do their laundry. I have the whole rest of the house to clean. The least they could do for me is be nice and wash themselves. He has them (mainly her) convinced I'm a servant. It's making me resent them bad. Sometimes I wonder if things I get mad at are a real issue or if it's just everything bundled up as one. Their mom is on my side. But I get in trouble when I discuss things with her. At least I don't have that baby mama drama! The boy has never been rude. He used to be whiny but I guess out grew it. His grades were so bad (dad blamed mom) that the high school refused to accept him. Which was a blessing because we gave a school in our area for lazy/slow kids. So he no longer has straight Fs. Yaay. That and ever since I bought him a kitten he's been completely taking care of it and picking up his own room because the kitty is a little terror Smile not to mention at least the 15 year old backs me when he sees his sister is being a total br
at!

camobo's picture

Omg yes! Exactly. I came into her life when she was 8. I feel like a bit half their food, cook all their meals, clean their dishes, and do their laundry. I have the whole rest of the house to clean. The least they could do for me is be nice and wash themselves. He has them (mainly her) convinced I'm a servant. It's making me resent them bad. Sometimes I wonder if things I get mad at are a real issue or if it's just everything bundled up as one. Their mom is on my side. But I get in trouble when I discuss things with her. At least I don't have that baby mama drama! The boy has never been rude. He used to be whiny but I guess out grew it. His grades were so bad (dad blamed mom) that the high school refused to accept him. Which was a blessing because we gave a school in our area for lazy/slow kids. So he no longer has straight Fs. Yaay. That and ever since I bought him a kitten he's been completely taking care of it and picking up his own room because the kitty is a little terror Smile not to mention at least the 15 year old backs me when he sees his sister is being a total br
at!

camobo's picture

However maybe if I leave he'll consider counseling or whatever I suggest. He did before after over a month but after I heard him say he was willing that was good enough for me to come back. Should've made him do it first

FrenchPeas's picture

She's wrong about one thing. I did move out and never looked back. I didn't need that crap. So the generalization doesn't cover me. I left. And my life is better because of it.

camobo's picture

I appreciate you bringing all that up. Unfortunately I've brought up counseling and he's declined. His ex wife and him did that. The counselor was divorced 3 times and on her fourth marriage and he immediately shut down. Understandable. I even suggested he pick. Find a man? Idk anything! I asked him why things were so great when we first started up until our daughter was born and he simply responded with "I was taking it easy on you but you're a mother now so step up your game" I left for 3 months. August-December. 3 months he rarely saw our daughter. Besides feeling lonely- it was easier so now I'm feeling stupid for coming back all for family sake. My daughter needs to see me happy and healthy.
I've lurked and seen a bunch of post. I don't hate them. They both have great qualities but I'm totally resenting them because of their dad and your comment has made me think of our own issues. He's 15 years older than me and it's really starting to show... for example instead of snuggling and watching a comedy I rented he's upstairs watching golf. I've never even seen him play golf in over 4 years! Regretting buying Internet and cable... he was right to say it stole from "interacting" I ASSUMED he wouldn't be an issue. Mostly for mickey mouse clubhouse and misc because it bundled with Internet we needed for school work and would benefit both our jobs. Mostly his. I'm having regrets. Wishing he was a one night stand I got pregnant from instead -.- I think I'm taking my hatred for him out on the kids. Not that his 12 year old is anywhere near innocent.

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It is so difficult being a stepmother. I can't say that I hated the skids but I will say that I spent a lot of time locked up in my bedroom. They drove me crazy. The way I parent and the way BM parent couldn't be more opposite. Well because she didn't parent. There were no rules and rules/laws didn't apply to them. I keep a clean, neat house. She does not. One of my rules was no food in the bedrooms. They would sneak it in the bedrooms. They would leave and I would find gum stuck under the window ledges, food wrappers under the bed and in the drawers, etc. They ruined the hard wood floors and the bed with wet towels and the bedrooms would stink. They would eat all snack foods that drinks in a weekend that was to last for the next week. They would leave the TV on all night long. So, I took everything out of the bedrooms except the bed. No dresser to hind things, No TV...who wants to be in a bedroom that has nothing but a bed. I would go food shopping and leave all snacks and drinks in the trunk of my car that I didn't want them to gobble up in a day. I started out treating them the same way I treated my own kids but it is so difficult to do that one you just give, give, give and they just take, take, take and then they state that they hate you when you have done nothing but try to help them. Well fast forward as they are all now in their 20's. We tolerate each other. The one tells me that she loves me. I can't say it back. Sad, but true. DH always tells them that they should remember that I did more for them than their BM ever did. I never, ever corrected the skids but I certainly gave DH an earful and expected him to do it. Sometimes he did sometimes he didn't. What he did seem to do however was drink a lot of beer when they were here. I think that was his way of not dealing with his monsters. Stay drunk for the weekend was his way of dealing with them. I remember one day that I am not proud of I had cleaned the entire house top to bottom, left to run errands and when I came back it looked like a bomb went off in every single room. I just about exploded. Even the outside of the house was a mess. I cornered DH expecting him to round up the skids and clean up and when he didn't I became a crazy person. I got trash bags and anything in my way went into the trash bag and outside to the trash. I was so angry and frustrated that I took my energy out on the big basketball thing in the drive way and knocked it over. That got their attention! Not one of my proudest moments.
Anyway, just try and stay one step ahead of them. Don't try and be their Mother. Be a step Mother. Make one day a week cleaning day. Hold them responsible for their rooms and if they don't clean then set consequences. Lay down the rules and what you expect from them and what the consequences will be. Think of it as a second job (that helps). I found that telling them verbally never seemed to work so I would write it down. By writing it down they couldn't say I didn't tell them that, or they didn't hear me, etc. Oh the list had to be detailed. I couldn't just say clean your room. It had to be step by step instructions. Oh and as far as personal grooming for step daughter...shock her and plan a fun girlie day out. Go get manicures and pedicures, treat her to a new outfit for school and then take her somewhere and have them style her hair explaining that you need for them to give her a cut that doesn't require any care. That might help.
You've got to stay one step ahead of them.
She steals. Anything that you don't want to go missing hide! Shouldn't have to do this in your own home but do it.
Now, something that my friend told me to do but I never did and now I really wish that I would have is journal everything. Journal about them every night with dates. Now that my skids are in their 20's according to them we never did anything for them. Are you kidding me? Take photos of every gift, every place that you take them, etc. I was so being angry and hurt most of the time that the last thing that I wanted to do was take pictures of the skids but now that we are being told this I wish that I had pictures of every birthday, every Christmas, every vacation, every event that I took them to as they seem to forget that all of that ever happened. They forget about all of the trips to the craft stores and the projects that I helped with. They forget about me hauling them around for school activities and sports. Yep, never happened. Wish I had kept a journal and photos to back it up.
One day I dug out the few photo's that I had and posted them so that they could see them. Oh yeah...who took you horseback riding? Who took you to the water park? Who took you to caverns? Who took you to the amusement park? Who made you beautiful Easter baskets (and they showed up in torn jeans and flip flops to go to church on Easter Sunday). Got a photo of that. I didn't even sit with them I was so embarrassed as were my own children. Anyway, journal. Take photo's. Call a family meeting and give them a chore list in writing. The first time you may have to go into the room and supervise and help them do it so they know what you expect. After your special fun girl day out on the way home explain to her on the way home in the car how cute she looks, how important it is to always look nice, etc. No one wants to be around a stinky person and then what could happen if you don't take care of yourself. I always told me kids that you only get one chance to make a good first impression. Good luck to you. Stay strong.

camobo's picture

Thank you. I love the journal idea. The beauty day just isn't going to happen. Her hair is down to her butt and we can't touch it. Dh actually hates it that long and tries to convince her to cut it. If she wants to look ridiculous or like the girl from the ring she can go ahead. Your church story made me laugh. We had a similar experience this easter. Everyone was dressed nice. 15yr old had a tie. 2yr old had curls. SD12 just wanted to be herself. That's fine. Wear your neon stretchy pants and minecraft shirt. She was so embarrassed when we arrived. Can't wait to share that family photo later on.

FrenchPeas's picture

Why live like this?? Why? That's what I don't get. I did all of it. Hid in my own home. Disengaged. Counseling. All to be bullied by a dumb ass lying man and his good for nothing kids. It wasn't worth it and my kids didn't deserve to be stuck in that crap.

Journey Perez's picture

If he has a problem with your methods than maybe he should step up and guide, direct and care for his own kid. Don't be picky and ungrateful when someone is going over and beyond to help you raise your kids ya know? I don't get these lazy men. Its like they don't want to ruffle their kids feathers and yet they are choosing to disappoint their spouse instead.

20YearsAsAStep-Mom's picture

Is your DH your dad? You get in trouble for talking to BM??? Who do you get in trouble with?

He tells you to step up your game now that you're a mom after you had a baby? Yes, you are a mom, but not SD's mom!

I think you should go to counseling on your own and learn how to stand up for yourself and not be ordered around like a servant. I picture you skulking around with your head down cleaning and sweeping. WTF is the boob pinching ?

This situation sounds intolerable to me. Go talk to a women's victim shelter counselor. You are being abused.

Edited to add: Your DH needs to step up and be a parent - he is a lazy, bossy a-hole.

camobo's picture

That was the most amazing read I have read in forever. Thank you so much! It makes perfect sense. I always thought disengaging was to hide out else where and avoid everyone. I've done the food/dishes thing. Except I served their food on their dirty plates and it actually worked!

camobo's picture

The article just hit the nail on the head for me. Do you have more than one step? The boy is polite and respects me. Would it be wrong with I did things for one but not the other?

camobo's picture

Thank you so much. I really think this is the answer to my issues. I'm sure dh will hate it at first but I'm feeling really optimistic that this will work. Plus I have a 2 year old that needs to see a happy mama. I know she's only two but she actually helps out cleaning more than anyone else lol she's actually great at mopping. I mop she drys. That is why I spend the most money on her. She makes me happy. It's pretty simple right? I'm actually going to share the article with HEX. She and I have a great relationship and I think she'll probably love it too because she's been getting walked all over as well.

camobo's picture

DD was sick Wednesday/Thursday. Too much sun. She started puking right as I was picking her up for dinner. dh brought over a wash cloth then went right back to eat... so I just flung the puke that was in my hand on the floor and proceeded to bathe DD. He comes down and tells me to go eat and he'll watch her. Ok she's already washed-just relaxing now. I go to eat and see the pile of puke is still sitting there. You know what would've been helpful? If he ate then cleaned up puke instead of just watching her in the tub so I CAN CLEAN UP THE PUKE. I clean the puke, eat then go back in the bathroom to take her out of the tub. I'm busy doing my nurturing thing and she falls asleep on me. He's watching tv. I say something like damn I had this house spotless a few hours ago now it's like a bomb went off especially in the kitchen (skids came home after school) he asks me if I want him to get her bed ready so I can or her in it. Totally missing my hint at please do the dishes especially since I had to make 2 separate dinners because we didn't want spaghetti and the skids did. Wednesday is spaghetti night that's the only reason I let the two dinner thing fly. I was mad about the no help with the puke thing and not getting my hint so I didn't ask him to do them because it would've came off super bitchy. Her bed was already set up so I put her in it. Cleaned the dishes I used to cook. Everything besides SD because her's was still on the table. I tell him I'm sleeping with DD because she was sick. It was kind of a rough night. She had chills. 4am she pukes up some foam abd water so I gave her another bath wrapped her up, put on cartoons and we both fell asleep until 730. DH made pancakes sausages and eggs. None for me. I was sleeping. I would've made him some assuming he'd wake up eventually. He used 4 pans total. Kids took dishes out of their rooms. Mostly cups. Dh didn't wash anything. You'd think he'd be nice somehow because he knew I had a rough night with a sick toddler. I think he was more upset I didn't sleep with him. I have a fear of her choking on puke. Anyway after the kids brought their dishes out Thurs morning I saw SD also had a big ass bowl of cheese its. Then they got on the bus. I check the cheese its box. Yep bag wasnt rolled up. I've told her a million god damn times about that. Sick of stale cereal chips and crackers. It's Friday. The dishes I didn't clean since Wednesday are still here. I've literally cleaned everything else. He's gotta know im not doing them. There's usually never any dishes left before bed. SD goes to pour herself cheese its today. I stopped her and said I saved her bowl for her. She whines they're old. I told her so are the ones in the box because you didn't roll up the bag plus why did you pour so much and not eat even half? She turned red. In front of everyone I said from now on everyone has to ask me before they serve themselves besides top ramen. DH didn't even argue. He actually said well until you guys learn. I chose not to single her out because she would've flipped and SS is guilty of putting empty stuff back. He rolls up bags at least. I will let them serve after they ask then inspect the container so I know who to get on. It's not even abut them eating too much its about me thinking we have something so I don't buy more... that's how it's going so far. Also I haven't done their laundry because it never ends up in the basket.

A quick note is I do work. DD comes with me to work too so it's not like I'm a stay at home mom. If I was, I probably would've done the dishes to "earn my keep" I've been back to work for a year now and he recently discovered I am making just as much as him after he pays child support. He's been harping on me to start paying for more things. We don't share bank accounts. We have bills divided out fairly. Apparently it's not fair anymore since he knows my income. Our house isn't "ours" it's his dad's. Still in his dad's name. Idk why but he's dying so it'll be in DH's name soon. Dh pays property tax which is really cheap. Suddenly he wants me to pay rent. Here's my problem with that. I pay power, most of the groceries, and literally everything for DD comes out of my pocket. He pays the property tax some groceries and you know misc crap. His child support is his own deal. It's not my responsibility. I think his problem with it is I use my extra money on myself and DD. I don't buy the skids clothes/shoes. No their mother does that.

I'm kind of on a rant right now because skids are here, he didn't work today and instead of watching DD I took her. I leave before him. He had no reason not to watch her because he didn't do anything. Then picked a fight with me over my money. I recently spent $300 on myself. Kind of a mothers day present. He didn't care until he saw the reciepts. I already paid my bills. Then I came home with a new dress and a headband for DD. The headband was $10 BUT it was absolutely perfect for my brothers wedding which she is the flower girl in. I'm stupid for buying it at that price apparently. My brother should be flipping the bill. *eye roll* Quit looking at my reciepts! Here's the F'ing icing on the cake. I contacted his best friend who is starting to make headway in the art world. I wanted to buy DH a piece. He just bought one for our dining room but he has said he wants one for above our bed. His friend quoted me $400-600 as the super best buddy deal. Yikes! $400 without a frame. I told him I'd think about it and maybe should have DH pick one out instead for that price (I'm totally not buying it) I complemented him on his success and asked out of curiosity how much the one dh just bought was. $600... wtf? It's one of a kind original not fred Meyer art. Here's the thing, he'sinsanely cheap. He thinks getting the cat neutered for $60 is outragious. Honestly I don't give a crap what he spent his extra money on but how dare he hound me over my purchases and bitch about needing a new weed eater when he spent that fucking much on art. It's not even on a canvas. It's on this Styrofoam like stuff. He thinks that makes it cooler bc it's light weight and textured. For his birthday at the end of this month I'm going to get his sons cat neutered since he's been complaining about how he's going to start spraying soon but is too cheap to neuter him.

I spoke to my mom. I'm giving this disengaging thing 2 months. If it's not improving or getting worst I'm out. My stepdad just bought a piece of property for the land to keep his equipment on. There's a little house on it that needs a lot of work. It's livable though. So I'll move there. Fix it up while I'm there abd pay rent once bigger things are taken care of. Like windows. Blah sorry. I feel better. This is my diary now. The end

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