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JUSTME14's picture

I've been with my bf for 8 yrs, I moved in with him and his almost 21 y/o son 10/2014. At first it was ok until I realized his son was smoking pot daily in his room, while we were sleeping. BF and i went back and forth he would not confront his son. This caused the relationship to almost end. One day it erupted his son got right in my face, my bf didn't stop him or me from yelling at each other BF said " it's just pot, I smoked it and i am fine" It continued so I called the local kids escaping drugs and spoke to a counselor and she felt he needed help. She suggested they come in and speak to some kids recovering. They finally went and my bf said it was a joke and supposedly the 2 kids they spoke too said pot was no big deal. So it continued and then I noticed his room was like a room from hoarder, he told my bf to do his laundry and bf does and then told my bf to tell me he wants his meals prepared daily. ( I was making casserole type meals on Sundays so they could just be reheated) Stupid me trying to make everything work I stated making crockpot meals so he would have a meal every day. Then my bf tells me his son said he's depressed. I said then you need to get him help. We called multiple places and couldn't get him in. We found one place and it's actually for ppl with addiction. He started going to counseling, then I did, bf went twice and quit ( I assume they told him things he didn't want to hear) Bf would go 1 a month with son. She told BF he needed to be a father, give him chores . Well he gave him 2 take out the garbage that he doesn't do and clean hin room. It was a weekly fight I ask if it was done, bf didn't want to look or ask... so we fought rather than BF step up, his son started doing it because bf told the counselor he wasn't. The son would constantly drop drug comments knowing it bothered me. They were drug testing him and didn't see a decrease. We went to a family session in Nov. and his son exploded using the f bomb in front of the counselor. Counselor said if he didn't like the house rules move out. Again BF didn't say anything about how he spoke to me. Let me back up we went on vacation and my BF told me he told his son no one in the house but he actually told him 1 person and he ended up having a party. I should mention bf has had custody of his son since he was 3 ish. Also I moved in with them because the deal was we would fix up his house and move out of state together. BF admitted that he allowed parties every weekend with underage drinking and pot use in his house, it all stopped when I moved in. His son is no longer going to counseling ( again assuming because she told him what he didn't want to hear) Just to give you an idea of how selfish he is. My bf brother and sister are drug addicts and have been the ones to give all the kids in the family pot and party with them since their teens ( BF says it's not true but the kids have admitted) BF son asked them if he could move in with them because we fight all the time ( we have never fought in front of him)He asked as the sister was battling breast cancer and in and out of the hospital. The sister died last month and her wake was on a Sunday, BF son only came for an hour because he wanted to watch football !!! You want to live with her but yet can be respectful when she dies. So yesterday my BF dad came over and I was trying to get dinner together so I stayed in the kitchen and they were in the dining room. BF father left and his son says to me " nice way to be ****ing respectful " I said " what " and then BF jumped in saying he wasn't going to stand for that talk to me.. they went outside and were screaming at each other. Evidently whether is be from drugs or what he thought I said " here is another problem" when his dad pulled in. It was my BF would said I was in another room ! I'm so disgusted with him I just don't even know what to do. I told my BF it proves he still needs counseling and he said his son said he won't go back to the other place ( assuming because they drug test him) I don't know how to handle this ongoing issues with him. BF and I are going to couples counseling because we do want our relationship. BF told me he doesn't want him to move out because he fears he will get into worse "stuff" but yet says he doesn't have a drug problem.

JUSTME14's picture

Yes he works and goes to school
No he doesn't pay rent
Per the drug counselor, pot is addictive, 90% of heavy pot smokers go to pills, then heroin per the statics in our area. His cousin is already on heroin and started with pot. They also said the age of him starting also points to issues, especially the effects of his ( at the time ) developing lungs and brain.
I've told bf he enabling but he's doing what he lerned both his parents enabled, including taking his neice to buy heroin when she didn't have a license.

JUSTME14's picture

out of the ppl they were treating for heroin 90% started with pot, then pill, then heroin. Most ppl don't just start out on heroin.

JUSTME14's picture

out of the ppl they were treating for heroin 90% started with pot, then pill, then heroin. Most ppl don't just start out on heroin.
So when they took the history of the heroin pt they were treating 90% started with pot, pills then heroin.

ItsGrowingOld's picture

Ladyface, I agree with what you said. There is definitely a link between pills (opioids) and heroin. But pot and heroin? I have never heard of that!

I don't smoke pot but know plenty of adults that do. They are not heroin users nor have they ever been.

ItsGrowingOld's picture

Word!

sandye21's picture

After watching my Sister die of cancer last year and how medical marijuana helped her, I agree totally!!!

JUSTME14's picture

I work in a cancer hospital and there are MANY types of pain relief. The problem with pot is that today it is stronger when it has been tested and it is believed that it is stronger by spraying it with chemicals. So inhaling that even with a healthy person is damaging the lungs, not too mention the brain especially if they are young and still developing their brain and lungs. The issue with cancer patients, if inhaled while on chemo or while the immune system is compromised you are risking developing lung aspergillus or other various lung infections in which most caner patients won't ever recover from. So they die from that.

Tuff Noogies's picture

there's more to legalization and regulation than you realize. thc is not a substance that is metabolized at a consistant rate, and it clears the system slowly. for example, if u used two days ago, you are no longer under the influence, but may still test positive >135. so - is your driving impaired? how can you prove it? what about long-term users where it builds up and may take even up to 60 days of total abstinence to clear the system? where is the line drawn between quantity in the body, and level of impairment?

same goes for regulation. it'd be much more difficult to regulate the potency of the thc depending on the particular blend. how much would be legally too potent? and who's going to monitor and test?

legalization and taxation would bring in awesome revenue, and the snack food industry would also flourish (lol!) but there's too many variables so far.

JUSTME14's picture

The ppl I'm speaking of are not actively dying. Yes because of their pot addiction would rather risk lung infection over getting well.

They can also take Marinol to not only help with nausea, it stimulated appetite and pin just like smoking pot but it's a pill.

I just watched a family member die from treatable cancer but her addiction was stronger and she died way too soon.

sandye21's picture

She didn't smoke it. I'm surprised you work at a cancer hospital and aren't aware pot can be taken in other forms than smoking it. My Sister was dying at the time, and in extreme pain, so she probably didn't worry too much about lung or brain damage. We will have to agree to disagree on this one.

Exjuliemccoy's picture

As I see it, you have unreasonable expectations in the sense that you've chosen to date a rather low rent person from a trashy family and are introducing alien concepts that are causing a culture clash.

Your bf has been a terrible, awful, criminally negligent parent. What is attractive about that? What is the best possible outcome you can reasonably expect under such circumstances? He's ruined his kid, and that will come back to bite him in various ways for a long, long time so that's the reality you're facing. Addiction and dysfunction seem to be this family's pattern, so what are you getting from battling against their norm?

JUSTME14's picture

BF is the brother of one of my friends from 30 yrs ago, we lost touch but I have known her husband ( BF brother for 25 yrs ) Neither ever said any of these drugs issues. They were " good Catholic ppl " When I met BF we talked alot on the phone first. No red flags, he didn't discuss the family. He did speak of a doting father he was. Very involved with his schooling etc. He has said to me " I'm sorry I didn't have the parents you did or the skills in parenting you had for your son." He has said he wants to break the cycle. I guess maybe its from my upbringing that you don't walk away when it gets tough. I'm really conflicted.

JUSTME14's picture

I do think I'm in the process of letting go......going through the various stages. Kinda reminds me of my marriage. I was hard to let go, once I vow forever I mean it. We are going to couples counseling on Sat. we'll see what happens.

LikeMinded's picture

"Why do I stay? Because in talking to other step parents they has said trying to blend and come into a household and implement rules isn't going to be easy. I'm not one to turn away without trying everything."

You're not going to like what I say (I'm sorry):

There is nothing to "blend" here, these are two grown men. Two grown men who were living together and partying together until you moved in. Your BF cleaned up his act to seduce you, but his son neverr agreed to clean up his act, and why should he? For you?

Your BF raised this boy to be his party buddy. You can't undo 20 yearas of this.

Move on and try to figure out why you would be willing to give your LIFE to 2 people who clearly don't deserve it.

and PLEASE let them cook their own d@amned meals!

JUSTME14's picture

I appreciate everyone's input. My bf doesn't party with him or anyone. He quit when he got custody of him. He doesn't even have a drink when we go out to dinner or the holidays. He just said he doesn't need anything to enjoy life.

LikeMinded's picture

Well that's at least a step in the right direction.

I'm not sure though, that you can come into this situation and raise a 21 year old. He's an adult man. There's nothing to blend here. He's supposed to leave the nest, fly away from daddy. Parenting days are over.

I mean, he wants to be parented by you, just as much as you'd like to be parented by someone right now. He's an adult.

mystical7's picture

I think the biggest problem in this situation is you have no respect for yourself. And you've put yourself into someone else's house and tried to rule the roost. This Skid is not your child and not your problem. Who cares if he uses drugs. You need to have more self respect for yourself and remove yourself from this toxic Disney dad situation where he willingly allows his son to party and use drugs. This BF does not care about you. If he did you would never be disrespected. Ever.

JUSTME14's picture

Can you elaborate how I don't have respect for myself? There are no parties in this home anymore because my BF realized he was liable and I said I wasn't going to be liable and the other adult in the house

Exjuliemccoy's picture

You simply cannot care more than your bf does. He may be stepping up more as a parent, but that seems to be due to your influence and I bet it's caused resentment in his adult son.

What is your goal? To reform the both of them? To control a 21 yo adult? I think you need to step back, look at the big picture, and accept your boyfriend's son for who and what he is.

These two men have a history of low rent, illegal activity. It is their right to live as they choose. If you want to work on your relationship with your bf, go for it but stop involving yourself with somebody else's adult kid. You can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear, and you can't force a 21 yo dirtbag to clean up his act. If he magically became a choir boy tomorrow, he would still be a freeloading adult that needs to get out, so stop trying to fix him and instead focus on getting that doper out of the house.

Work on disengaging and developing a plan for his launch. Stop doing anything for your "roommate", no cooking, cleaning, buying groceries, toiletries, etc. Make out, out, OUT your new mantra.

JUSTME14's picture

Well, I don't have to worry what to do. Bf and I went to couples counseling and he said he knows he's f-ed up, he needs help but refuses meds, he can't be in this relationship and we need to end it. I have felt he was depressed and or bi-polar.

LikeMinded's picture

Wow, one visit to the counselor and he dumps you... this man doesn't want to do anything to keep you. You know where you stand. Bipolar or not, he's not trying to keep you.

Please take a break and look at what you're doing. You need to find a guy who:

1. Is into YOU.
2. Will work to have YOU.
3. Has the ability to give YOU a happy life.

Do not give your life to someone who doesn't deserve it. YOU are the prize.

I know this hurts, but it'll hurt more to stay with a man who is in no positiion to offer anyone a good relationship.

Take some time to figure out why you were compelled to try to help this individual and his messy life instead of trying to create a good life for yourself--I know I had to do that myself, and it was very revealing.

JUSTME14's picture

This was the 3 session, it was interrupted with me having surgery and his sister passing away.

Sad thing is he did all of that. I was done with men, we were friends first . I don't know how we got here.

Thank you for your thoughts, I am definitely sad, been cryng most of the day. Trying to figure my next logical step. I don't want to work off of feelings.

I appreciate your thoughts.

JUSTME14's picture

I'm going to justify what I posted, his whole family does drugs, he was smoking pot in his room every night. Per a drug rehab specialist for other reasons, too many list, he is addicted, he can do what he wants on his own watch but I will not tolerate underage drinking or drug use as the responsible adult !! I spoke t the cops regarding that.

JUSTME14's picture

I would LOVE to do all of those things. But when I sold my home I moved into my BF house. And I know his son resents it because I said no more underage parties while I love here and no pot smoking in the house while I live here.
I would NEVER tolerate this with my son....and he is a well adjusted, hard working man..... never used drugs and rarely drank as a teen or young adult because he was playing too many sports and always wanted to be in tip top shape. He still is at 31,