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erasec63's picture

First of all, people living in South Africa, Australia, New Zealand and Canada, cannot properly comment on U.S. laws as they are completely different. If a child support order is entered in the United States, and the father doesn't pay, they will garnish his wages, intercept tax refunds, suspend his driver's license and incarcerate him if all else fails. Judges will also enter orders forcing fathers to work, or keep a job log if they are unemployed. No such measures are employed for mothers. A mother can have custody and she is not required to work. Only the NON-CUSTODIAL parent is forced to pay child support or jailed. Mothers receiving custody is still over %85.
Consider also that the custodial parent is not required to use the money for the children. Let that digest for a moment. They will jail fathers for non-payment, yet the mother is not required to maintain an income, is able to collect food stamps, the medical card, free breakfast and lunch at school, and does not have to use the money on the children.
Do we see a problem yet? Does anyone manage a budget at work? Do you keep receipts, invoices? Do you have to settle up at the end of the fiscal year with your superior? Do you have to show that you used the funds appropriately? Do you have to get permission for large or unusual purchases? Why? Why can't you just have pizza parties, have in house massages and redecorate the lounge? Because the money is for a purpose to keep the company running and fulfill your responsibilities. Only in family court does reason not prevail.
Only in family court do women again become victims of evil husbands who want a divorce so therefore he must pay, and pay dearly. Or maybe she wants the divorce, but she is still the victim and he must still pay.
I doubt that the wealthy executive has married the cashier as mentioned in another post, but, perhaps, if she was the hot Au Pair once. Most likely the executive married a college educated woman who preferred to stay home and play tennis regularly. People tend to marry within their class.
Working class SAHMs also make that choice. Have we forgotten that she was supported financially by her husband? Housing, clothing, food, medical, entertainment, cars, telephones, beauty services, children's expenses, accessories. She was, in fact, paid. So, upon divorce, she now needs to be compensated. Child support and maintenance should really be called Wife Unemployment Benefits, because that's what it is. Yet, it is not over in 6 months. It goes on and on and on and on. She is not required to work, not required to contribute, not required to get or further her skills and not required to spend the money on the children.
Even if the mother was reasonably normal, worked, cares about her kids,tries to do the right thing, the system is still skewed against the father. No judges or lawyers care if he can afford the amount set out for him, no one cares if he is overpaying, no one cares if he can afford his expenses, no one cares if he has medical coverage and no one cares if those children see their father. If you would like an eye opening experience, visit Illinois Fathers on Facebook to hear the stories of children moved out of state, false abuse claims, judges unwilling to hold mothers in contempt, fathers who have had their children adopted away from them and fathers incarcerated for the inability to pay the child support.
Add to this the pathological acts that the mother then becomes permitted to engage in, and, well, you have the makings of a psycho dictator.
If this scenario wasn't prevalent, we wouldn't have the thousands of posts on here detailing the horrors of dealing with mentally ill, and sometimes just vindictive and manipulative BMs. The inequality in the financial obligations puts the custodial parent in the position of power. As it was told to me... "She's in the driver's seat, and she's driving." No matter that she ran everyone over, including her own children.

Monchichi's picture

erasec, with respect you don't know South Africa law. "If a child support order is entered in the United States, and the father doesn't pay, they will garnish his wages, intercept tax refunds" - they do the exact same here as well as incarcerate the BF if he is a repeat offender. They will take insurance policies, retirement funding and anything else necessary including coming in to MY house and removing MY assets to cover my husbands maintenance if he were to default. I am married by ANC and still what I own (not what I earn) is at risk.

"No such measures are employed for mothers. A mother can have custody and she is not required to work. Only the NON-CUSTODIAL parent is forced to pay child support or jailed. Mothers receiving custody is still over %85." Additionally this is also correct for SOUTH AFRICA. Although in our cases 95% of mothers will receive custody immaterial of their circumstances.

Before you spout the laws in other people's countries, check your facts.

erasec63's picture

1) I didn't comment on your laws, you commented on ours

You stated that father's don't pay child support and then buy expensive gifts instead-if a father doesn't pay child support, there are plenty of FREE lawyers and resources for a mother to pursue him with. There are no free resources to enforce visitation.

2) We need attorneys to interpret laws from COUNTY TO COUNTY and STATE TO STATE and even THEY have difficulty at times. No person can claim to interpret laws of another country. You can get an overview, but you cannot interpret them.

erasec63's picture

1) I am not stupid, I have two graduate degrees.

2) I stand by my assertion that you cannot interpret another country's laws. As I said above. We need attorneys to interpret laws from county to county and state to state. A non-law person in extremely pompous to think they can look up laws in another country-assume they are the same across the nation and assume that they haven't changed.

Let me give you an example.

We hire a new lawyer, we want to move our case to the presiding court at the Daley Center in Chicago, from a smaller suburban court. He looks up the law in his office. It states that if neither party resides in the district any longer, either party may move the case without cause. Both parties had moved out of district. He said we had no chance of being denied.

Guess what. Law had changed in the preceding 6 months. It was added that "you must show GOOD CAUSE to move the case and CAN BE DENIED BY THE JUDGE. We were denied.

I do not believe it is me who is the stupid one.

zerostepdrama's picture

LOL!

twoviewpoints's picture

How did you get from 'I'd be a much better mother to SD' from your original posting on ST

https://www.steptalk.org/node/231467

to the last two entries of all about CS and poor mistreated male NCPs who must pay per their state guidelines? By the way, there are twelve female NCP deadbeat mommies on Illinois biggest deadbeats website this month.

NoWireCoatHangarsEVER's picture

They can comment all they want. They are members here and our friends and we value their opinions

twoviewpoints's picture

You do realize, right, that her next post will be about how Monkey buys caviar with food stamps for lunch while Monkey's kid only gets 'free' hotdog and beans for school lunch. Wink

zerostepdrama's picture

Shall we meet for drinks and for getting our nails done later? I received a child support payment of $1.78 like 5 weeks ago. I can FINALLY splurge.

zerostepdrama's picture

LMAO!

uofarkchick's picture

My brother's ex girlfriend was on disability because her anger was so bad that she couldn't work. This woman told me that in order for her to escape some serious assault charges she found a doctor that was willing to sign off on her going on social security/disability because of her debilitating anger issues. Apparently, it is a mental condition when you are so trashy and so immature that you can't stop yourself from beating people up. And she has sole custody of three young children. If she can't stop beating up adults, why in the world do the courts think she can keep herself from beating up three children? At the end of the day she gets checks from three different guys paying child support, social security, along with Section 8, food stamps, and state paid medical. But hey, she has a mental disorder! Your friend with the kidney disease should work her ass off to support this woman. Obviously, uncontrollable anger is more severe than renal failure!

Last In Line's picture

Wow. You need a reality check. YOUR experience aren't the same as ALL experiences.

uofarkchick's picture

I think most rational grown women know that our own limited experiences do not make our opinions the gospel truth in all experiences. But on the other hand, our reality is shaped by our own experiences in life. What's a reality for some is not the reality for others. Just a thought...

erasec63's picture

I'm not sure where this sudden defense of the psycho BM is coming from when this forum is filled with horror stories. Trolls maybe.
I have no reason to lie about my background. If I was lying I would say I was a surgeon.
I hold two state teaching licenses in Cosmetology and Esthetics, a Bachelor's in Social Sciences and WOMEN'S STUDIES, a Master's in Adult Education, a Master's in Educational Psychology and am in progress on an Educational Specialist degree in School Psychology.

My DH had custody of 10 year old step-daughter when she was 6, because BM was homeless. Evicted from her mother's home for abuse and theft. Marital home was rented out. Judge awarded BM rental payments and she ceased payment of the mortgage. Home went into foreclosure. Judge awarded her foreclosed home. She moved back in and judge gave her custody because she got a minimum wage job. Woo hoo! She had no car. She gets food stamps, medical card and free everything at school.

Child support was ordered at $1,600.00 per month for one child. When DH was laid off from construction judge refused to reduce placing him in arrears. He was almost incarcerated. I paid a hefty amount to keep him out of jail.

When SD was with us she went to counseling, we went to parenting classes, we went to parent teacher conferences (because she was bullying, defacing property and exposing herself). We put her in summer camp and she learned to swim. Judge assigned him BACK CHILD SUPPORT for when SHE LIVED WITH US. I drove her to school and picked her up. I washed her clothes and made her lunch. I still went to work.

It took the FOURTH lawyer (a woman) to finally get the CS reduced to income guidelines. All the lawyers made mistakes and made incorrect judgements on the laws.

NO LAWYER believed a HOMELESS BM would ever get custody again. Judges can do whatever they want to.

Anyone who thinks they can interpret another country's laws, well, by God, you must be Super Woman. Our lawyers have 6 inch thick books that they spend hours reading and researching and then get on the phone to consult with other attorneys and legislators to see if any changes have been made. Yet, people from another country think they can do as well or better than a family law attorney with over 30 years experience? Seriously?

erasec63's picture

Yes, I've seen it all. Crying, fainting, collapsing in court. OMG, I'd have her put away if I was the judge. How they fall for this is a disgrace to their profession. My DH paid for her to go to nursing school. Cash, while married. She quit right before graduation. She could be a nurse right now. Yet, it's his fault she is working a minimum wage job and needs public aid and large CS and maintenance. She's 46 years old and this started 8 years ago. There is NO REASON for her to not be gainfully employed. Except, she is mentally ill. You don't abuse your mother in her 80's steal from her, not pay your mortgage, take a battery from an old car and put it in yours (her car started on fire with the kids inside) if you are well.

Why were you homeless? My mother sold her house and moved (50 miles away). Did you know the house was for sale? No. You didn't see the sign on the front lawn? No. Why didn't you go with your mother? I don't know. That's how that went at trial.

What did you do with the rental payments? I supported my kids. (we had SD and the other two were adults) Did the homeless shelter feed you? Yes. Did they give you clothes, job training, spiritual support and counseling? Yes. Did they give you passes to public transportation? Yes. Did you still receive food stamps and medical card? Yes. Did you get food from the food pantry? Yes. But you had to use the rental payments to survive rather than pay the mortgage. Yes. Must be some big expenses.

It's all BS. They put on the big show of tears in court and everyone falls for it. Men don't cry. Although DH cried at the police station when he was sending the police to take the 6 year old out of the motel she was hiding in. But, he never showed that in court.

Two DCFS indications, hiding in a motel, abused mother, homelessness, joblessness and a kid who needed intense psychotherapy. Give her custody. Ok.

erasec63's picture

Well, maybe I should post on the First Wives Club site, rather than step-mom's site.
I can assure you I haven't made anything up. All of her financial information is sent to us by her attorney.

I WISH, truly WISH I was making it up. When SD is pregnant at 14, on drugs or has run away, I'll think back to your statement that I've made it all up. Women like you are part of the problem.

In fact, I just got off the phone with BM's sister. She told me that BM and the kids were spitting in her mother's food (kid's grandmother) when they lived with her and grandma was supporting her. That's why her mother had to sell her house and move far from her. That's the kind of woman she became. That's how she raised the boys and is raising SD. Spit in your grandmother's food because you don't want to eat it.

Sure he loved her, when he was 20, before he knew any better. That's when they marry all of them and divorce them later when they find out what they are really like.

I am completely center, but yes, pissed off that the courts allow this nonsense to go on. I won't stop until SD is safe again. If you don't like it don't read the posts.

twoviewpoints's picture

Only twenty? So why was he still having kids with her when he was 43. It took him 23yrs to discover what she was really like. Amazing.

erasec63's picture

Well, maybe I should post on the First Wives Club site, rather than step-mom's site.
I can assure you I haven't made anything up. All of her financial information is sent to us by her attorney.

I WISH, truly WISH I was making it up. When SD is pregnant at 14, on drugs or has run away, I'll think back to your statement that I've made it all up. Women like you are part of the problem.

In fact, I just got off the phone with BM's sister. She told me that BM and the kids were spitting in her mother's food (kid's grandmother) when they lived with her and grandma was supporting her. That's why her mother had to sell her house and move far from her. That's the kind of woman she became. That's how she raised the boys and is raising SD. Spit in your grandmother's food because you don't want to eat it.

Sure he loved her, when he was 20, before he knew any better. That's when they marry all of them and divorce them later when they find out what they are really like.

I am completely center, but yes, pissed off that the courts allow this nonsense to go on. I won't stop until SD is safe again. If you don't like it don't read the posts.

erasec63's picture

Well, maybe I should post on the First Wives Club site, rather than step-mom's site.
I can assure you I haven't made anything up. All of her financial information is sent to us by her attorney.

I WISH, truly WISH I was making it up. When SD is pregnant at 14, on drugs or has run away, I'll think back to your statement that I've made it all up. Women like you are part of the problem.

In fact, I just got off the phone with BM's sister. She told me that BM and the kids were spitting in her mother's food (kid's grandmother) when they lived with her and grandma was supporting her. That's why her mother had to sell her house and move far from her. That's the kind of woman she became. That's how she raised the boys and is raising SD. Spit in your grandmother's food because you don't want to eat it.

Sure he loved her, when he was 20, before he knew any better. That's when they marry all of them and divorce them later when they find out what they are really like.

I am completely center, but yes, pissed off that the courts allow this nonsense to go on. I won't stop until SD is safe again. If you don't like it don't read the posts.

Thumper's picture

"E" some people are just mean, vengeful and will not stop until the ex has passed away, sad to say.

Not sure why everyone is going hard on E. she does have valid points.

What is so unusual about knowing what her husbands ex pays in bills? OR not pays. Isn't it true we all know more than we really want to about our husbands ex ?

I guess I missed a thread or two.

erasec63's picture

It's very hard to watch a young girl be placed with a mentally ill woman when you worked so hard to straighten out. I went through the counseling with DH and SD and the parenting classes because I felt it was the right thing to do-the child lived in my house. I tried to make her life "normal." I couldn't even take her to my father's house for holidays without hearing later, "momma says he's not really my grandfather." I replied, "did anyone tell you he was your grandfather?" This year she wrote him a birthday card, on her own addressing it to her "step-grandfather." I felt that was wonderful. I don't teach her to spit in his food or disrespect him.
When she lived with us we sat down and made handmade cards for her grandmother, which the other aunt refused to give to the grandmother. She died in June and SD never saw her after the eviction. She saw her at the funeral. Now she asks me if "nonna" ever really loved her.

It's also hard to see your DH struggle at 53 to go out and work from 7 am until 9 pm to try to have enough money. It's hard to see him without health insurance because he can't afford it and I'm back in school, working part time. It's hard to take him to the dental hygiene clinic at the dental school because he can't afford the dentist, while she gets everything free. It's hard to spend hundreds of dollars on "kid food" that we don't eat while she gets food stamps. It's hard to buy her clothes because BM refuses to send the overnight bag like she is supposed to and sends her in old, torn clothes that don't fit. It's hard to pay for horseback riding camp when I'm struggling to buy books for school because we want her to have something worthwhile in her life, some self-esteem.

It's hard to pay half of her attorney fees and %100 percent of his and still lose. It's hard to see her live in the house he bought by working construction, that she let go into foreclosure and then she was able to get a HUD loan to modify the mortgage while we live in an apartment. I don't really care about the apartment, but when SD says "momma's house is bigger and better," your heart breaks at the unfairness of it all. We had a condo before, but couldn't afford it anymore, the judge made sure of that.

So why celebrate Father's Day in this country when fathers are shit? Fathers are nothing more than piggy banks. As I wheeled my 79 year old father in his wheelchair yesterday, cleaned his house and made him dinner, I wondered what would have happened if someone had taken him away from me in my child hood. I wondered if SD will know what he sacrificed for her when he is 79 and she is 36 (check my math).

notsobad's picture

Sorry, I'm confused. I'm not trying to stir the pot but DH is 53 and SD is 10?

"Sure he loved her, when he was 20, before he knew any better."
"She's 46 years old and this started 8 years ago."

So BM is 7 years younger than DH. She was 36 and he was 43 when SD was born but he fell in love with BM when he was 20 and didn't know any better?

That would make BM 13 when they met. It would also mean that they were together for 23 years before SD was born.

Things are not adding up age wise. How long were they together? How old were they when they met? Why is DH just finding out that she's crazy now?

BM here is nuts but DH knew it from the beginning. He just chose to ignore it and hope it would go away or tell himself it wasn't that bad.

erasec63's picture

Here,
Let me clear it up for you.

His birthday is February 1963

Mine is October 1963

Her birthday is February 1968

They were married in 1990

Want my mother and father's dates also?

I was being sarcastic when i said 20.

notsobad's picture

I get that you are getting a lot of flack on here but you must admit that when you are being sarcastic and giving out numbers that don't match up people question you.

Married in 1990 makes him 27 and her 22, they were not kids.

SD is 10, so born in 2006, they were married for 16 years before they had her?

Do they have other older kids? Did BM work durning the marriage or was she a SAHM?

You come across as very very bitter and given the story you've told I understand why but you aren't doing yourself any favours by giving out numbers that don't add up or not giving the whole story.

erasec63's picture

I didn't know the FBI was on here. So what difference does their ages make? Please advise. Women are having kids into their 40s now, what is so hard to believe? My step-sister remarried at 40 and had two more children because her husband was 12 years her junior. She had two in college. She got pregnant naturally. BM was in her 30s. SD was not planned or else they would have done it sooner. He thought a baby would end her depression, but it got worse instead of better.

She was a SAHM and when the recession started he paid for her to go to nursing school because he kept getting laid off from construction. She quit two classes before graduation. They had a house, he told her he needed help with the bills. She kept enrolling the sons in expensive private schools that he couldn't afford. She refused to work.

She is not unable to work-she doesn't want to. She is bilingual, she almost finished nursing school. When she lived with her mother she could have finished it up or gotten another para medical degree, such as ultrasound technician, but she used her mother's money instead. She took those house rental payments and went out to dinner and bought silly stuff for the kids. SD had all sorts of crap she bought.

Hard to sympathize with a woman who never grew up and wants her husband, ex husband and mother to support her. Now she works in a bakery for minimum wage. Oh well, in a few years when I'm a school psychologist I'll double my income.

SD lived with us for almost a year. I worked. I drove her to school each morning and went to work. I picked her up, returned home, did homework with her, cooked dinner, washed clothes and prepared for the next day. DH went to work at 5 am and returned after 7. Friday evenings we went to parenting classes while she played in the other room and then she had her counseling session. There is no reason a woman can't work and have kids. In summer she went to summer camp and learned to swim.

In fact, as a teacher, my profession is 99 percent female. Guess what, they all have kids. They manage.Some are married, some are divorced, some never married and one got sperm from a sperm bank. They all work.

notsobad's picture

Echo - "You're pissed that your husband had kids with a woman he loved before you and now has to pay CS which means that YOU get less. Join the club. Yawn."

You - "Sure he loved her, when he was 20, before he knew any better. That's when they marry all of them and divorce them later when they find out what they are really like."

That's why their ages matter. You made the statement that he was only 20 and didn't know better. At 27, yes he should have known better AND you made it sound like there was only one child, the 10 year old SD.
They were married for a long time, had 3 children and while BM can still be batshite crazy, you misrepresented the situation until you were questioned about it.

Echo nailed it and that pissed you off. So you lied to make it sound better.

You've omitted things that you think will look bad and still you expect everyone to agree with you and commiserate with you about how horrible BM is and how horrible the court system is.

Maybe if you were more truthful from the beginning and less bitter you'd get the sympathy you're looking for. Almost everyone on here has BM and court horror stories.

erasec63's picture

The only situation worth discussing is the 10 year old and the situation that she is in. I did not lie or omit. If you want the story from the beginning you'll have to take the day off work to read it. I could give a shit about the older sons who are entitled bastards like her. They only call when they want something, or money. Thank God he says no.

I'm not looking for sympathy, Echo didn't nail anything, she's just trying to start something. So he was 27, what difference does that make? She was from America and he didn't understand her behavior. Everything is great in the honeymoon phase. As soon as he married her ass she quit her job, for no reason at all, and never went back to work.

I think all you women walk both sides of the fence. You get money from exes and money from present husbands and then you reject your SKIDS in favor of your own kids. Same old story. Either way you go, you win.

That's why everyone on here is defending a psycho BM, because they probably do the same thing. It justifies soaking your ex, crazy manipulations, keeping the kids feeling sorry for you and having a nice stream of income from BD and DH. Nice.

erasec63's picture

Wait= I forgot a few.

SD was born in November 2006

He left her ass in June 2009

She had a mental breakdown when her father died (sorry, don't know the year, around 2000)

He didn't speak English after she imported him, met him in Europe on a trip to see her relatives.

He went to work to support her ass which was still living with her parents.

She got pregnant 10 years after the second son leaving a large age gap between them.

Need anything else?

notsobad's picture

Ok I just saw this after I post the above.

So they have more than one child. Where are the older kids and do they have a relationship with DH?

Again you are just so bitter it's hard to sympathize with you. Lots of people on here have crazy BMs to deal with. Some are worse than yours and some are better but by painting every single BM with the same brush you are also painting lots of the SMs who are also BMs on here.

I was a SAHM. I didn't get CS for the first 3 years, once I got it I had a job, a home and was self sufficient. I saved my CS and used it to take us all on vacations. ExH has no right to tell me how to spend it.

erasec63's picture

Oldest kid has Asperger's syndrome and collects carts at the grocery store while living with his mother and pretending he is SD's father. Second son works and lives with her and gives her money. Hopefully he will marry his girlfriend soon and get out of there.

She did not allow them to have a relationship with him after he left and the judge did not force visitation because they were "too old."

I really don't care if you think I'm bitter, sure I am. I promised SD we wouldn't let anything happen to her and we were not able to protect her with a judge who hates men.

Sorry if SMs are also BMs. If they are doing the same thing to their exes they are just as bad. No parent should get a payment each month and not account for it.

twoviewpoints's picture

Well, since you asked. You didn't include 2009 was also the year he took up with you and you keep yakking on only about the daughter. Per your timeline, his youngest son was a minor of 13 when he 'dumped' BM. Not the grown you indicted in your initial post. Why was there no effort to 'save' the son from such a crazy unstable mother?

In fact in 2009 your guy would have been paying 28% of his income for CS of two minor children until a couple years ago when son aged out. Between 28% of your guy's income AND all the government assistance you claim BM receives/received (not to mention programs like Section 8 available), why was BM homeless a year?

erasec63's picture

I never said he was grown then. You interpreted that. He is grown now. Sure we tried to save him. The idiot judge allowed him to go the homeless shelter with her. His emergency petition included all of them. She did not include the older sons, only the 6 year old.

The sons wanted to stay and "protect" her. Crazy bitch.

Yes, he was paying %28 until we got the fourth lawyer to get the 19 year old off. She was filing motions that he was a student and when asked for proof he had dropped out-like her.

He turned 18 in August a few years ago. It took until May the following year to get his ass off. Even this biased judge had to make the motion retroactive to his birthday, much to BM's disappointment.

Sorry, but I've been working since I was 19, bought my own cars, my own vacations and put myself through school. I waitressed, house sat, dog walked, bartended and made ends meet. I think SAHMs are lazy entitled blood suckers.

erasec63's picture

Forgive me, Sally. How wrong of me to make an assumption. You know what they say about ASS U ME.

Perhaps in South Africa it is normal to swallow all of your high blood pressure pills in order to kill yourself in front of your children, and when that fails, go into the garage and turn the car on in an effort to gas yourself. When you fail again (how convenient), you do the same stunt again 4 weeks later and fail yet again. (Perhaps I can give her a hand)

Perhaps it is normal to try to run your ex over with your truck, perhaps it is normal to try to cause a car accident with him.

Perhaps it is normal to put your 2 year old in the truck at midnight and call your ex and tell him he will never see his daughter again while you can hear the child screaming in the background.

Perhaps it is normal to call his family in Europe and tell them that he is addicted to drugs and alcohol and that they'd better jump on a plane and get over here to do an intervention.

Perhaps it is normal to hit your head into the table and cry in front of your children.

Perhaps it is normal to fake a pregnancy and miscarriage.

Perhaps it is normal to quit nursing school 2 classes before graduation.

Perhaps it is normal to scream and pull your hair out because your ex got your 6 year old a haircut while your ass sat in a homeless shelter.

Perhaps it is normal to punch your ex in the face because he got her another haircut 6 months later.

Perhaps it is normal to cease bathing, shaving and begin to dress in your son's and ex's old clothes.

Perhaps it is normal to carry a grocery bag as a purse.

Perhaps it is normal to abuse your elderly mother and steal her money (causing old mother to kick you out in the street 4 days before Christmas)

Perhaps it is normal to hide in a motel and not tell the father of your children where you have taken them causing him to have to find you and send police after you.

Perhaps it is normal to go into a rage and try to throw your nieces clothes and suitcases into the street when she came to visit her grandmother.

Perhaps it is normal to lie under oath.

Perhaps it is normal to let your adult son with autism babysit your 8 year old and hit her when you are not there.

In America, however, we consider this mental illness whether or not you choose to get help.

erasec63's picture

Well, you can believe what you want. It's all true. Have you ever been to a custody trial? DCFS reports are not admissible as evidence.
She had an attorney also who defended every action she made. All of her problems due to her husband divorcing her.

The judge would not allow his interpreter at the trial which made it hard for him to understand everything they were asking him.

I don't need any help. Our family court system does. Since she's been back with BM her autistic brother broke her finger, she has an unexplained broken foot, she's gained 40 pounds and weighs 120 at 10 years old. She failed the third grade MAP test and math and science. She lies to the teacher when she doesn't turn in her assignments.

She wants to wear "booty" shorts so she can look like the girls her brother shows her on the computer, along with the "girls with penises."

That's what giving her back to an unstable BM accomplishes.