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BM wants to take DH out to dinner and drinks to talk...how adorable

Glassslipper's picture

See ya, hope you all have a great time out on your date...I won't be getting involved is all I have to say.

"Lets have dinner to discuss the CO???"
It hasn't changed in 6 years but now suddenly BM wants to get together for dinner and drinks with DH to discuss how to pay half the health insurance premium? How about by check like the last 6 years???

I'm done dealing with her, asking for hugs and sending "call me" messages via text, 60 texts a month, 15 phone calls a month, and is it about kids???? 60% of the time its not...

Its about her friends, and family and memories that they shared and
"Oh, I just can't do this all on my own"
"Oh, do you need help driving them to activities, I can help you and hang out with you instead of your wife"
and the minute I walk away at an activity to take SD to the bathroom or to get a drink, she runs up and stands next to him, flirting and touching him, I just can't watch it anymore.

Its gonna be another few years or so I assume since DH didn't put his foot down to it till just last month...

milldog's picture

No way in hell.Seriously? That is jacked up. You have seen her in action and know her MO. It just should not happen-period!

Your DH should tell her to send everything in an email and he will respond to it. If he insists on going on a date with her, tell him you will be getting your own date. }:)

He also needs to shut down ALL non skid related discussions/texts. It shounds like he is still in a relationship with her.

ItHasGottenBetter's picture

My BM was doing this kind of stuff about 4 years or so ago.

I finally sent her a txt asking why she needed to contact her EX, my Fiance x amount of times as month. When she claimed it was about the skids, I replied that NO, I have seen the txts and they aren't always about the skids, what does a love chain have to do with kids? or directions to a state park?

Her knowing I knew what was in the txts caused her to back way off.

If your DH has put his foot down on his end, sometimes the woman speaking up can stop it. Now, if you DH encourages her, it may make it worse.

Glassslipper's picture

Good point, SD is kinda used as a pawn for BM
Often times she will ask me to take her, so she can get time alone with him,
Asked DH to come downstairs quick to look at something when she was moving out of her house so she could "cry on his shoulder about how hard it is on her"
BM has called my husband and leaned on my husband for emotional support way to many times...
From everything to the sale of her house, to her dog dying, to needing surgery, to breaking up with her boyfriends...DH is the first to know so he can be her shoulder.
SD9 now is telling tall tales to cause drama, she came home, showed me a photo of the new puppy at BM's and told me all about how daddy came over and played with it with her and mommy. When I confronted DH, he said "I had no idea till 2 minutes ago when she showed me the same photo, then she tried to back peddle and say "That's not what I told SM" (her lying issue is a whole situation in itself)

I've disengaged from DH and BM's relationship at this point...
They wanna go out to dinner and talk and hug and play with puppies, I say "there is the door, have at it!"

Dizzy's picture

You need to disengage from your SD. How dare BM AND DH have you play nanny so they can "talk". Don't disengage from DH & BM's relationship--there shouldn't be one between them. They are exes and that is YOUR husband. You are being disrespected with by both your DH and BM. Time for some serious boundaries, girlfriend. If it were me, my suitcases would have been packed a very long time ago. In fact, I HAVE packed up over boundary issues before and I would do it again. Tell your DH what I told mine, "you have room for and to be ONE woman's man, so you can continue like this with BM, or we can stay married."

misSTEP's picture

From Day 1, our BM tended to act like "If only I can get him ALONE....". The part she fought most when he took her to court to enforce his parental rights? The "No Contact" order. She couldn't call up and scream at him any chance she got. She couldn't try to cajole him to come inside her house EOWe when she would NEVER have the skids ready on time (before he put his foot down and said the skids were old enough to walk from the door to the car without him having to go the 20 feet to get them!)

Then about 5 years or so after he got that order, she decided to call him up and request a "face to face" meeting with him.

My DH didn't even have to discuss it with me or anything, he just said "NO. Any concerns you have can be dealt with the way we have been doing it for years." I love that man. Smile

ChiefGrownup's picture

Ew, op! Ew, ew, ew! Sorry you have to witness that. Bleeeecccchhhhhh!!!

For awhile, a few months after our wedding, BM wanted BOTH of us to have dinner or something with her. That was bad enough. She kept asking, we kept balking. She apparently wanted to talk to us about "how to parent" SDthen13. No way in hell were we taking parenting advice from her. No way in hell were we spending any hour of our lives in a social setting with her. No effin' way. We were unanimous in that. And that seems a whole lot less icky than what you are faced with!

The Triangle's picture

I think I am confused, is he going? If so then there is your answer. Bm tried to do the same thing to DH when we first started dating and I threw a fit. Needles to say he didn't go. I honestly don't know what I would do if he did. We still have to battle her tactics. For instance booking a plane ticket excluding me from escorting as to the gate. That won't happen again. We are new to the air travel, but we will book the tickets from now on. Whole other story. As for your situation, you are with him and she is not. Period! There is no need to go on a "date" per se. A simple call or email will do. At the very least it is inappropriate. Taking you and dh and bm out of the equation, who knows what sd will think when she hears that mommy and daddy went to dinner. Children hold on to that fairytale of parents getting back together. It's natural. No need to feed into it.

Glassslipper's picture

I'm not sure Tri,
He had put his foot down, he was about a month into progressing with making appropriate boundries, but then she wrote:

BM: Will u sit down and go over it??
DH: CAN YOU JUST EMAIL IT TO ME AND I WILL LOOK OVER IT
BM: Take a breath .. I am not going away...How abt "local restaurant" while kids are at "event"...
DH: I CANT THIS WEEK...

Which to me says, "maybe we can meet up next week"

Am I wrong???

blayze's picture

No, you are right. He needs to tell her that they will not have a private relationship anymore, ever. No dinners, no conversations, no nothing will happen without his WIFE agreeing to it. That broad crossed the line with excessive phone calls and texts...but THIS is waaaaay over the line. She is asking your man out on a date and he should have told her HELL NO!

christinen's picture

^ Agree with Blayze! Your DH needs to put his foot down and put BM in her place. They are NOT together, they will have no relationship, he is MARRIED to YOU! I would have told DH over my dead body will you go out to dinner with your ex! Oh hell no! I am pissed for you!!

The Triangle's picture

I don't think you are wrong. He needs to say no, you should not have to wonder was my point.

Patsy's picture

GROSS! NO Way would I be ok with that! There is a reason they got divorced - They don't get along! No dinner or drink is going to change that!

godess-clueless's picture

Glassslipper, I would suggest setting the boundries important to you and standing your ground. Once a boundry is crossed and becomes considered as acceptable it will be difficult to stop the expectation of continuing . Once the boundry is crossed, step by step the boundry gets pushed farther.

I am dealing with a simular problem. Dh and I have been married 16 years. He has had the freedom to visit his adult children and granchildren on his own. One of the daughter's that he visits lives side by side in a duplex with the ex . Although dh drives 3 hours out of state to visit a few times each year, the ex has continued to make herself a presence for the short time dh is visiting. No one says " mom, go home"

The last visit dh invited the ex to join sd and him to go out to dinner. For me, this was a dealbreaker. Totally crossed a boundry big time. We are in our 60's. He has defended his right to take the ex to dinner and his right to do so in the future. "I wasn't doing anything wrong " " my daughter was with her" " I did it with a pure heart" " she is the mother of my children" " Im a grown man, and you don't tell me what I can or can't do"

For me, dining out with a single ex sexual partner is not acceptable. The daughter is not my friend, not my relative and she would not be concerned if my marriage goes down the tubes. There is nothing dh needs to discuss with the ex. I may very well get burned in this situation but for me it is a situation that has advanced too far past boundries. This is disrespectful to me. Dh has some decisions to make, if not being told what to do or dining out with the ex for any reason is important enough to leave a marriage and split assets then it will be. The ex has a history of not knowing him when she is in a relationship yet being very in his face when not. Dh encourages the behavior of crossing boundries just as much as the ex. The word" no" seems to be lacking

IslandGal's picture

Agree with all posters on here who are saying "NO WAY!!". It's up to your DH to stop her shit and only he can do that. Just so friggin' baffled over how these "men" seem to not only lose their logical minds but their balls when it comes to their ex leeches.

Honestly, if my SO even considered going to meet BM for dinner for ANY reasons, it would be a one way trip out the door. And yes, I would also throw his clothes on the front lawn and light one helluva bon fire.

Glassslipper's picture

Well I had a bit of a chat with DH last night about the issue, he claims
"I never was going to go out to dinner with her alone, I was going to have you come with"

REALLY? Why would YOU EVEN GO! There is no need for meetings! email works!

FYI, I'm also divorced with 2 kids, my ex and I communicate only through text/email, 5 texts average a month, 1 call average a month (less than 5 minutes) never personal, he has never asked to "hug" me, crap, I wouldn't want to hug him! gross!
If he ever texted me something personal about his life(he wouldn't though) I would probably tell him "wrong person" or "F**K off"

We split insurance and medical bills and kids activates just like everyone else, we have NEVER EVER had to "meet" to discuss anything... I send a simple e-mail that says here is the expenses I paid for, he replies his back, if there is a difference of 250 or more, one cuts a check and mails it. DONE!

I told DH all this, now its all about how "I can never do anything right for you" "your always telling me how wrong I am all the time"

And the REAL GEM of the discussion was when he said
"Your more F'd in the head than BM"
yea, the couch was warm last night...

Glassslipper's picture

No, cheating is for sure NOT an issue, he would never do that with BM, or anyone else. I know he has never loved anyone as much as me and would do anything for me.

However, for what ever reason, he is not making this clear for BM, so she still thinks she has a chance to get him back, and she tries to get him alone, engage him in personal conversations and hug and rub on him and go out on dates now with him, and he doesn't make it clear he is against these advancements.

Its been going on for 5 years, and if I point it out he gets defensive...
Says:
I can never do anything right for you"
"your always telling me how wrong I am all the time"
"your always right, I'm never right"
"I give up you win"

HE is too defensive to actually LISTEN to the problem and refuses to correct the problem.
I wonder what about her makes him scared to set boundries and lets her walk all over him and us...and why he doesn't tell her that her advances are inappropriate.

Just don't understand why he is not making it clear to her...

TheLadyTremaine's picture

All I can say is that you aren't the only one who's gone through this and you don't deserve this shit! No one does. He sounds abusive and controlling.

Glassslipper's picture

^^^ Yep, that is exactly what it is...a date Wink how sweet!

Just opened DH e-mail and she has e-mailed him 3 times today so far trying to engage him in conversation, add that to the usual 2 texts a day he receives and possibly also a phone call...

it so suffocating how much she smothers DH and I...