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Afraid to live with my stepson...

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I'm hoping I'm overreacting here since I'm feeling a bit moody with the pregnancy hormones, although I don't think I am sadly.

I've known my stepson since he was 2, and now he is 14. It's NEVER been easy with him. Most of the same issues we all see here, with the bio mom causing problems, and the boyfriend (now my husband) not disciplining his son and letting the bio mom walk al over him. Sigh. Add on top of that, my stepson was pretty much raised by my husband's parents. They were very against the bio mom raising him (even though she married and had two other kids she raised) and the bio mom just let them pay for everything and used them as a babysitter when she "couldn't handle" watching her own son anymore. She would drop him off whenever she wanted, there was no routine or stability. He was allowed to stay up late here, and had free reign of a huge house with nobody watching him (while my husband worked.) We tried living together, but any time he would break the rules in our house (which was every day) we couldn't discipline the poor emotionally fragile child according to his bio mom. And my husband would go along with this mostly. When he was at his grandparents house the granpda would SCREAM and was quite abusive. They would ignore him all day, and not feed him until late. I didn't know this (they seemed responsible enough,they raised my husband and two other kids...) until I moved in shortly for awhile to save money in between apartments. I tried to warn bio mom and she said I was trying to ruin her life (yeah,I guess asking you to take your son when he was in a bad environment would ruin your life...heaven forbid you have to take care of him or spend any money on him...) She paid zero child support the time we had him full time, yet FREAKED out when my husband claimed her son on our taxes (she had him for one month of the tax year) and only just now was having him full time (we had no problem with her claiming him for the tax year she has him now...I don't think she understands how taxes works...)

Anyways,sorry for the long rant, but thought it would help explain the situation and how he is turning out. I pretty much disengaged and stayed away and lived in my own apartments and wanted nothing to do with the situation. After all, if boyfriend was not going to listen to me and respect my rules in my house and let the bio mom boss him around, his son would not live with me. This worked out ok for awhile, but his son uses this to try to manipulate me (you never talk to me!!! wahhh!) even though I work two jobs and barely have time for anybody and when I DO make an effort to hang out he would just want to hang out on the computer.

I put up with this for ten years, and FINALLY boyfriend seemed to realize my side of things. He realized his son was better off full time at his mom's and here only two days (bf and me worked too much to really give him full attention and his parents were too old to take care of him properly,and didn't watch him enough and we couldn't afford a babysitter-even though he is 14 now,he still needs ones if you ask me...)

Things were relatively good, and boyfriend got a job where he was gone six weeks, home 3. And home for two months in the winter. Finally! This seemed like the best situation. If he was making enough money, I could spend more time with his kid and give him the full time attention he needed. Even start our own life and have kids too! He would be at the mom's most of the time for school since he lived there,and I could deal with having him for a few months or summer vacation (again, on the idea we'd be both home)

Husband almost died at his job,and in this moment of being afraid he almost died, I decided (against better judgement) to get married. He ASSURED me he was going back to work when he healed and he wasn't fired. I even got pregnant! (I was turning 35 this year, waited 12 years for us to finally have it together... didn't think I'd get pregnant in one month at 35 either...)

Well, guess what? He lost his job. I am now working full time and another part time job while he does "real estate." I am pregnant.

And on top of that, we had his son here for Christmas break. It was when I was going to announce I was pregnant to the extended family. His son pretty much ruined our entire break. He is completely out of control. I know we only have him for weekends, but how he behaved after he found out i was pregnant and on break made me not want him in this house at all (at least until he gets some help-I feel he needs 24/7 watching, whether its a therapeutic boarding school or a correctional dept..at this rate,he is going to go juvenile hall eventually if he keeps acting this way)

He snuck out in the middle of the night to go see two 12 year old girls. He walked 6 miles at midnight in not nice ares. He stole and took a knife with him. The girl he was with is obsessed with slender man (she had in the backpack they took stories about teens with knives who run away and stab people...NOBODY, and I mean nobody, not even the police, were concerned by that! Um, hello,they are ACTING this out...I don't care if they are just kids) When we went to the park we thought they went to (stepson isn't too smart about hiding his tracks,we were able to log in to his facebook and find out where he went) and they heard my husband they took off into the dark woods and we couldn't find them. This went on until the next day..he was gone from midnight until 2pm the next day when the police found them (according to stepson talking to his friends though it was because he turned himself in..uh,yeah,not what happened...)

So, after that I didn't trust him much. Started reading through his facebook and horrified by the things I found. We grounded him from the internet (he was getting into bad stuff on there,and the friends he talked to were bad influences...we weren't just taking it away as a punishment) and he acted like we were abusing him! Suicidal, and cutting himself. He stole a phone or computer EVERY day for the next week. We just the network off with the router, he found a way in. We hid our phones and computers, and he would find an old one nobody has used in years (going through everbody's rooms to find it)

He left himself logged in to my hubands old phone's facebook and I took that to work to monitor him (he would take his grandparents phones from their pockets when they fell asleep, or hack into the password protected ones)

And while I was at work I read him talking about setting stuff on fire, threatening to KILL someone who was making fun of his girlfriend (and he was talking to five other girls that he was interested in them, and sexually role playing with a couple)

and just all kinds of awful stuff about me and my husband.

The last straw came when he got into a LOCKED box that had his grandpa's gun in (mind you,we never told him the hidden location either, he snooped until he found them,then broke into the locked boxes....)

This is also a kid who was expelled at 11 for taking a knife to school.

His mom came home and took him away and put him in the hospital (for the cutting and stealing a knife (these both occurred on the same day,its not like we were ignoring that) and doesn't want us to see him.

Husband now is on the same page as me about disciplining him our home and also not letting his ex run our life (he finally realized I was right she was acting so crazy all the time just get back at him because she is mad he didn't stay when she was pregnant,even though they weren't even together at the time it happened..she actually admitted to it when she came to get him and said "You didn't have the balls to stick it out with me!") He was really shocked when she said, this woman is married with two kids and still hasn't moved on from the fact he didn't want to marry her??? No wonder her son feels like he's the reason his parents aren't together...

but I feel like it's a little too late for that now. Any time we discipline him now,he gets suicidal and crazy. And his mom then gets nuts too. I feel like if he won't respect our rules in our house,he can go live with her full time and my husband can just visit his son.

I don't feel safe with him in our house, with him stealing knives, and playing with guns,threatening other kids,setting fires, running away...and his complete lack of respect is not something that can be fixed overnight. But with our financial issues it's going to be hard enough to take care of a newborn without worrying about our safety.

Am I overreacting, or is he really unsafe to be around? He's 14 now, but I feel like he's going to just keep getting worse.

I'd love to send him to a boarding school where he could get 24/7 care to heal the emotional issues caused in both homes (his bio mom lives in a trailer with two other kids and they are always fighting) and the games played between his bio mom and my husbands lack of discipline, and his grandpa's TOO much discipline. Ugh. Maybe after that point he will be able to better manage the stress and be allowed in our home again, but I just don't trust him at all right now.

Any suggestions on affordable ones in Michigan, or if the correctional dept would be able to help find funding for us (I feel like it's better he get help now then end up in actual jail later)

I realize its a lot to read, so here's the short version:

14 year old stepson steals knifes, runs away, threatens to kill kids, sexually active with multiple girls, plays with guns, cuts himself and gets suicidal when disciplined....and I don't feel safe having him around my newborn next year. Is it ok for him to live at his mom's full time and his dad just visit him?

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Well, there ARE boarding schools for problem children actually. Quite a few. They are just very expensive. I don't want him to abandon his son, I still want him to visit him. When he is here, his son spends no time with anyways. He just wants to be on the computer, or he throws a fit.

I definitely don't think his mother is the only one to blame, but she certainly made things difficult and made it tough for my husband to be a good parent. He has been very much afraid of her,and would let her boss him around so he wouldn't lose his son. He realizes this now, but she was pretty abusive to him (she pushed him down stairs before,besides the verbal abuse) and he was always afraid she'd try to take away custody.

It is my problem though if he is stealing knives and guns in our house. We live with the grandparents now and they don't feel safe or want him here either. If we get our own place, it would be a little different, but its not a good situation for him here and we don't have the money to move out yet. Believe me, if his mom has him full time now, and we ever get our own place, she'd give up full custody and let him live with us because she can never handle him (how my husband let her scare him into thinking she'd ever take him away is beyond me,but again,he realizes now that was foolish on his part)

I don't want him to abandon his son, but I don't feel we have the resources to watch him. With his bio mom at least its a small trailer so he can't get away with as much and she watches him like a hawk. It IS because of her though he isn't allowed to be disciplined. She makes him feel sorry for himself any time we would set boundaries or rules, and tells the kid his dad left him because he didn't want to be his dad (so not true, he has always been there for his son, if not the best parent but we all make mistakes)

But yeah, the thought has occured to me to move out and separate. I am fine with that option if that's what best, because I do not feel safe with his son.

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Thanks for your answer fightincrazytrain , and it's just really hard to admit to yourself your kid is a sociopath. It's hard and he's not even my own son, so I know it has to be hard for my husband too to admit. However, he did procreate with one so it's not that out of the question...

That's just it though. I don't think I can save him and I'm tiring of trying. I guess I just feel a little guilt like I'm giving up on him and being the wicked stepmom, but I also feel like he is just completely out of our control. I've tried reasoning with him, tried disciplining him lovingly, but nothing works. He does what he wants, and doesn't seem to see reality for what it is. I know he's had a rough life, but how he responds to it is just not normal to me and dangerous. I do feel it's just a matter of time before the law catches him, guess I just don't want it to be on my watch and rather it be while he's with his bio mom (considering she helped create this by refusing to ever discipline him...) I feel like his only hope is he gets caught now as a 14 year old (not with any that he'd be tried as adult of course, but enough to get some kind of consequence), maybe he can wake up and get the help he needs before he ends up breaking the law as an adult and ends up in the prison system...but I suppose some people are beyond help in that regards.

I'm in the Detroit area.

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Well, I've known the kid since he was practically a baby, and have had to stand by and watch him get screwed up. It's tough seeing problems and not being able to do anything about it. I did finally disengage, but that doesn't make it easy to do. :/

It's hard too because my husband isn't a "bad" guy. He really thought keeping the peace with the bio mom was best (even though there is NO keeping the peace with her) and he was doing the right thing.

It's just a sad situation to me, and I'm mad I brought another child into this. I guess the only good news is now I do have a decent job and health insurance finally,and I could get away but yeah, I am just not sure my husband dealing with two broken homes is going to make for our child being too well adjusted either...

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Just thought I'd update, haven't been online much, had an awful stomach bug this week.

SS is going to be staying at his mom's full time, and my husband just visiting his son on weekends, per his therapist (He has been in the hospital for the last week or so getting evaluated-of course, if this hospital had kept him when I originally was upset about him being released after an hour he may have gotten help sooner,sigh) Imagine that, therapist recommends what the wicked stepmom recommends? You mean, I might actually know what's best?! Yes, I'm dripping with sarcasm, it's just so annoying how nobody listens to me until it's backed by a professional. But despite my sarcasm, I think this is good news.

I'm not too worried about him breaking into our home or anything (at least not until he is older...), he is more likely to hurt himself I think at this point (and they changed his med's-also something I thought but bio mom was very against it until of course,therapist recommended it...) and he lives an hour away and is only 14. Yes, I'm aware he could get a ride with someone if he was really determined, but I don't think he WANTS to hurt anybody here (except maybe his grandpa) at the moment, but he would if he was living here or sleeping overnights. He reacts in the moment. I think if we try to keep the visits fun and spend good quality time with him that will help a lot. I don't think he is getting better quality time being here on weekends ignored while everybody works, or is busy as opposed to husband spending a few hours in his off time going out to dinner or a movie, or ice skating,etc. It would only get worse when the baby gets here,and to be honest,can't say I'd blame him for being a bit jealous if I was in his shoes (oh,you can not work when you have a baby,but not me?! Only he forgets he is 14 and shouldn't need constant babysitting and we waited 12 yrs to have our own kid because he was so needy-but again,I know kids are not always logical on things like that. I sure wasn't as a kid).

So, good news.

Now, to get my rather slow hubby to realize it's not a matter of "if" bio mom goes after us for lots and lots of child support, but when. He seems to think because he didn't ask her for child support for 12 years when he had him full time, she somehow signed off her right on child support or something like that. Umm, even if she did sign something like that things change and even if she is broke right now I know she would go back to court if needed.

I'm not against him paying child support, but he is not making any money right now and there is no way she is getting any of my money. Again, husband seems to think you can't go after the spouse,but I know there are always loopholes and I'd think my husband being out of work for awhile (even if he has had a good reason such as being injured at work) could be one of them with the right lawyer.

I'm putting all my money in new and separate accounts, and filing taxes separately.

You really need to be a therapist, detective, tax specialist, etc to be a stepmom, don't you? I'd say we are saints, but it's more like witches in the salem trials, isn't it? We have magical powers everyone fears lol ugh, too much cold medicine.

Anyways, just wanted to update things are a little better, at least for the time being we have some peace in the house and I've actually become a little excited about having a baby again (also, prenatal massages do wonders for stress!)

I'm still not against moving out and getting my own place, but at least this momentary peace will give me more time to save up money (would rather not be paying rent when I am on maternity lave) in the case I do need to move out.