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Shit hit the fan and I'm absolutely terrified

TrueNorth77's picture

I will try to keep this as brief as possible but there's a lot to unpack here. I can't even make this stuff up. 

First off, an update on DH and my blowout fight. We didn't talk for a week (he tried to act like nothing happened, I was not having it). He came home from work early on Fri without me knowing and we ended up having it out. Things got super heated again- DH admitted his approach was not right and he shouldn't have threatened me with anger, but he escalated it because he was still super upset with me because I talked to SS16 about texting DH that he was going to "punch that fat coach in the face" (our friend), and I "hurt SS's feelings", and he didn't agree with the way our friend talked to SS but I didn't even try to get SS's side, blah blah blah. I'm honestly over it and we are not going to agree. I think SS is playing a victim when he isn't one. I flat out told DH that I will not be in a toxic relationship, and if he wants to fight dirty he can go back to Crazy because they are perfect for each other, but verbal abuse is not going to be tolerated. That actually woke him up and somehow calmed the conversation down and he sincerely apologized and said he never wants me to feel the way he made me feel, in his mind he's hoping I'm as mad as him, he doesn't imagine I'm sad and hurt and rethinking things. We talked about strategies to help in the future, and he's filling out the paperwork for marriage counseling. He pointed out that we only fight about skids, which we already know, and is so frustrating. More work to be done obviously, but it's a good start. 

Now, on to the shitshow that happened yesterday. SS16 started texting DH around 4pm saying Crazy was being super crazy and that she is kicking him out and he's not going back there. SS actually said she was crazy and nuts a few times, and said the more he talks to her he realizes she's just dumb. Which is true, but as much as I hate her, I didn't love hearing him say his mom was dumb. He sometimes has this superior attitude and he's only 16. Apparently SS doesn't listen to her, won't clean his room and is disrespectful, doesn't tell her where he's going or when he's coming home, and she has no idea how to parent so her solution is to make him give his cat away as punishment. He said at 2am when he was sleeping, she came into his room and threw the cat on SS and told him he had to get rid of it- SS text a pic of his leg all scratched up from the cat. I told DH to send her a message saying it's unacceptable to kick skids out of the house, and if she continues he will be filing for a custody change (a bluff to scare her really, she usually freaks out about that). She responded that SS was not listening to her and being disrespectful- she has been telling him for weeks to clean his room and he hasn't, she told him he needed to do it when he got home from work on Sat and he said he was going bowling and couldn't. She said the hell you are. He said the bowling alley would be closed by the time he got done (this kid really thinks he's on his own schedule and doesn't have to listen) so he couldn't do it then. He apologized and Of course she allowed him to go, but when he got home he was cranky and still wouldn't do it, which led to the cat-throwing incident. She resorts to emotional abuse and taking his best friend rather than just taking his PS5 or car keys until he cleans...

In her message to DH she closed it by saying "SS tells me he hates you and Truenorth and hates it at your house all the time". She said the kids tell her that "Dad married a drinking partner". Most of what she says is lies, so I don't really believe it, but DH was like, stop deflecting, handle this situation like a parent- you do not kick your kid out of the house. 

The whole time SS is texting DH nonstop. The screenshots of messages he sent from Crazy weren't bad, although in one  paragraph she was yelling at him for not cleaning his room while also demanding a Christmas list with at least 10 things on it, immediately. SS resonded that he didn't have time to clean and she said "Send me the christmas list!!". Cause, priorities. It pained him to say it but DH told SS that the messages didn't actually seem bad, and he needs to listen to her rules, and manage his time so that he gets his responsibilities done prior to doing other activities. SS claims that even if he listened to her this still would have happened- maybe so, but I doubt to this level, and either way the kid needs to listen. He kept repeatedly asking DH about changing custody, but said that SD doesn't want it to change so she's worried. DH said it doesn't have to change for both kids, and "we will discuss it". The whole time I'm hearing this, my stomach is in knots. 

Just when you think it can't get worse, it went downhill after this. Crazy told SS he was the reason she couldn't keep a bf, since she had just broken up with hers (she has also told SD this same thing), and SS needs to break up with his gf since it's not fair that he has a gf. He left and went to Crazy's twin sister's house to drop the cat off and text DH "After I drop the cat off I'm going to crash my car. I hate all of you and I'm sick of this". Sigh. DH called him and talked him down, but also raised his voice at SS and reiterated that he can't just do what he wants and he needs to listen to rules, while also acknowledging that he's not dealing with a sane person unfortunately and he needs to not escalate the situations. DH told SS he could come over after dropping the cat off to talk. SS said Crazy told him if he didn't come home right away she was calling the cops. Turns out Crazy's sister would not take the cat, and Crazy wouldn't let SS bring the cat back, so SS was sitting outside her house in his car with the cat, talking to DH with the cat screaming in the background, trying to figure out what to do with it. It's winter here and cold. DH sent Crazy a message saying it's illegal to put cats out on the street, and she needs to allow SS reasonable time to find a home for it- if she made him put it on the streets we would be calling the police and she would be fined. She told him to stop messaging her, and said "you hate animals- the kids tell me you throw your cats against the wall". *lol*  We laughed pretty hard at that, but she did tell SS to come inside with the cat and that he had to hang up with DH because DH is only allowed one phone call per day. LOL. I just cannot. You kicked him out, then threatened to call the police if he didn't come home, and now you're saying he can only talk to DH once per day! 

SS text DH that when he got in the house, Crazy was yelling at him saying she was afraid of him, and told SD13 to lock her bedroom door because she wasn't safe around SS and kept yelling up the stairs to SD about how SD wasn't safe. She also told SS that after skids come by us today she will give DH full custody of SS.  

I am sick about the whole thing. I said to DH last night "You are planning on discussing it with me prior to making a decision on custody, right?", He said yes and we talked about it a little- on the one hand, she is crazy and it's not a good environment to be in when things escalate like this. She is bipolar, has anxiety and depression and we don't believe is taking meds, according to SD. However, with skids, aside from being a crappy person, not knowing how to parent, and some sporadic crazy behavior, she is decent with them the majority of the time. I don't want them to be in a situation that isn't healthy. But also to consider is SS not listening, being disrespectful to her, escalating the situation and then thinking he can just come here and be free of that. We have stricter rules here, and lately he tries to not listen and get away with not doing what he's supposed to, and that isn't going to fly. I told DH that is a concern and he agrees. DH thinks this may blow over because it usually does, plus SS doesn't like our rules and will realize that, and Crazy will calm down. We think we will see how the week goes and take it from there. But I am terrified of custody changing with SS- SS is who we argue about the most. I live for skid-free weeks. I cannot imagine not having them. This is my absolute worst nightmare. SS is almost halfway through his Jr. year and he is definitely going to college so it wouldn't be forever, but still.  

While this was all happening we got to a point where we just looked at each other like, exasperated, like this is just too much, and DH joked "He's a 10 but he has kids", and said that will probably be my next Tik Tok (I don't really Tik Tok). I said "Marry a guy with kids they said, it will be great they said". I'm trying to laugh so I don't cry....

 

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AlmostGone834's picture

Hugs. 
 

First let me say I HATE people who get pets without really considering what is best for the animal. If you're not in a stable living situation, you should not have animals. My heart broke when I read the cat was crying in the vehicle. I hope the poor thing can find somewhere to go where it will be loved.

Now on to the other problem. You are 100% correct. BM probably is semi-crazy and she definitely doesn't make all the right parenting choices buuuuut your SS is also being a jerk. He's not listening, being lazy, being rude, combative, disrespectful and running the town etc. All typical teenage traits that normally good parents shut down. Your husband should shut that sh- down. Even if BM is crazy, that's not a subject to get into with SS. Your husband is trying to play the good guy by throwing her under the bus (even if it is true). The focus should be on SSs behavior, not BMs. For better or worse, she is his mother and while you can acknowledge she isn't perfect, neither are his behaviors and that is really all he can control and would still cause problems no matter where he lived.

Is separate living situations a possibility for you both?

In any event, please try to find that poor cat a better home. I can't get the image of it sitting out in the cold car out of my head. Ugh.

TrueNorth77's picture

I feel the same way about the cat. SHE is the one who got the cat. Now she doesn't seem to care what happens to it and is fine with throwing it out on the streets in the middle of winter, which really pisses me off. It's a living thing, not a toy. If she had gone through with it I would have 100% called the police on her. I reached out to my neighbor to see if she wanted it but no dice. It may end up at the Humane Society, although I feel bad- it's his pet and I know how hard that is. DH told SS either way he should find a new home because her using it as a punishment isn't fair to him or the cat and who knows if she will just let it out some day. 

I actually do think DH was pretty firm with SS this time in telling him he needs to listen to her and follow her rules, and be respectufl... He told him at least 3 times, but It was when he would add statements like "I know she's difficult and it's not fair but you need to learn how to work with her" that I felt like he lost the message. I told DH later that I did think adding those statements left more room for him to interpret that as even the basic rules at her house weren't fair, and maybe the message should be more "You need to follow the rules at her house and listen, same as here- There are rules in life you need to follow, period, and you don't get to ignore them just because you deem them unimportant or ridiculous". If he ends up here more, he sure as hell is getting that message- he isn't ignoring our rules or being disrespectful. Just f'ng listen kid!!

I honestly don't see how we would manage separate living situations, although the thought has certainly crossed my mind. We own a home together and although we each make good money, living separately would be really hard financially, if not impossible. This may sound terrible, but SS is a Jr. in high school and is taking 2 college courses early next year while he's still a Jr.- he will have 15 college credits. If he has enough high school credits, it's possible for him to go to college early and not even finish out his Sr. year in school. He can't wait to leave and plans on going to college out of state, so it wouldn't be the worst option if it worked out....

AlmostGone834's picture

Yup exactly. Cat needs a new home. Do you have a local lost and found pets page on Facebook? (Pretty much everywhere does) If so, join the page and ask about local cat rescue centers. Say you know of a cat that has nowhere to go. People will likely recommend some locals rescue organizations. Not sure where you are located but I can recommend a couple good ones here in western NY that are no-kill/low-kill and work hard to find homes for all cats, even the older ones and ones with medical conditions. 

Glad your DH is being firm with SS. He needs to know that it's not gonna be a free-for-all if he comes to live with you guys. I would still fight that though. Hopefully if he's talking trash about you guys then he really doesn't want to move in and this will blow over and things will hobble along until he leaves for college. 

TrueNorth77's picture

The cat has been rehomed!! SS's gf of like 1 month and her family took it. They were apparently thinking of getting a 3rd cat, so they just took it. They also have 2 dogs. SS will get to see the cat- at least until they break up. Lol. I told him they can have a CO and use Our Family Wizard to discuss.

AlmostGone834's picture

So glad things worked for both you guys and the cat! Its commendable that everyone realized the best thing for it was to be rehomed. SS put aside his own feelings for the best interests of the cat. Love this!

It also sounds like your DH reasonably handled the situation! 
The kids know that they can't run from one house to the other and play their parents off each other. So often we hear of Dads (mine unfortunately would be included here) wanting to "win" with their kids so they throw the other parent under the bus. This always backfires and results in behavior problems because the kids think they are thus in the right to disobey the other parent. 

TrueNorth77's picture

Yes! Crazy does this to DH actually- she tells skids our rules are ridiculous and that they shouldn't have to follow them and do chores, etc. She tells them they have to do chores because we are lazy. Her other son (not DH's) encourages SD to not listen to me. I told SD to try that and see how it goes....she knows better though so ignores that advice. 

CajunMom's picture

You have a huge SS and DH problem. With what you've described about this kid in prior posts, I can only imagine what he's doing at the BM's house, also. This kid is out of control and your DH is NOT helping him. He's making it worse. Your SS needs a huge intervention.  I'm not defending the mother but she is who she is. And I wouldn't blame her for all the "lies" she says....it's very possible your SS is bringing that back to her. Like the, Dad married a drinking partner." 

As for that kid moving into your home permanently, I'd fight that and fight it hard. If it's bad now, wait til he's there 24/7. Add in that your DH is an enabler rather than a parent. If he plans to do what he wants (your DH), I'd start making my plans also. Either live in separate homes until he can get that kid independent or move on with your life. 

missgingersnap2021's picture

You are in a lose/lose scenerio. I can't help but think that if SS lives with you full-time things between you and DH will go down hill fast!!!! But if SS stays with bio mom he will just get worse and worse. It amazes and disgusts me how many pieces of S*** reproduce!

Your husband is also 10 times more of an ass then mine! Mine will say mean hurtful things but he never lets it go past that day or night before apologizing and talking things out. A week???? That's emotional abuse!

Shieldmaiden's picture

First of all, I would kidnap that poor cat and find it a good home where it isn't being abused. Second, living with you and DH is not an option for SS. Tell your DH in no uncertain terms that if SS moves in, YOU are moving out.  I did this and yes, it caused a huge blowout, but after DH calmed down, he made his choice, and he chose me. 

You need to explain to DH that SS is testing BM's boundaries, and while she may be crazy, he is living in her home. He needs to respect her rules - which seem reasonable according to you and DH. SS is part of the problem, and he needs to stop running away from the rules and start obeying them. Does your DH think that SS will change his ways when living with you? Nope. He will simply cause havoc everywhere he goes. SS needs to be told to shape up or he will end up in Juvie or on the street. 

Sorry, I know this is not your fault, but I don't want to see you go through hell with this kid any more than you have to. Having him in your home will only destroy your marriage and your life. Good luck and i wish you the best.

Birchclimber's picture

Okay.  So BM says that she can't keep a boyfriend because of him, and DH has a strained and at times, teetering relationship with you because of him.  I beginning to see a pattern here.  
It sounds as though BM just had a big melt down, and maybe a little time apart from SS will cool things a bit.  Agreeing to having full time custody of SS would be a hard pass for me.  He sounds like a bi-product of bad parenting and I would let BM continue to deal with it. 

HOWEVER, his threat to crash his car concerns me.  Your DH and BM should make plans to get professional help for this kid.  That's not a stable reaction to the whole debacle.

...and please, someone...get the cat a good home!
 

shamds's picture

Job parenting her kid or the absence of parenting that when the going gets tough, she kicks skid out even if a minor, then blames them for why she can't keep a partner (yawn)

women like this are mentally unstable, all over the place as you witnessed. When everything goes to shits, the ex plays innocent victim.

this is why me and hubby have a basic rule, no toxic skid/exwife crap in our home. Since sd's can't comply, i am disengaged and no contact

TrueNorth77's picture

We really need to get better at cutting her toxic crap out of her home. Lately she thinks she can write whatever she wants in OFW, without fear of contempt of court (which we have written in our CO- we have communication guidelines). DH was going to file for COC for whatever flood it may have done, but never followed through, and now here we are. He needs to grey rock her and not engage, or just file for contempt already. I'm so sick of her.  

TrueNorth77's picture

The cat has been rehomed!! SS's gf of like 1 month and her family took it. They were apparently thinking of getting a 3rd cat, so they just took it. They also have 2 dogs. SS will get to see the cat- at least until they break up. Lol. I told him if they break up they can have a CO and use Our Family Wizard to communicate.

Apparentky the cat has been a huge source of contention with Crazy, so this may help calm her down. She would get upset because the cat would sleep on the couch rather than in her room. And also that it meowed sometimes. 
 

Skids also just told us she refuses to let them do their own laundry, but gets mad at them for having to do their laundry. 
 

Can't explain crazy. 

shamds's picture

Reasons and its their equivalent of talking. My husband zoned out exwife a long time ago becauee once he divorced her, anything and everything about her was not of his concern or care.

she could play the "i'm the mother of our 3 cards pity me card" or "my husband threw me on the streets and i have no money card" and its still not my husbands problem.

he told his eldest daughter that exwife was not of his care or concern and not to be mentioned in front of him again because my husband was married to me now and we had 2 young kids and therefore we are his present and future. Bio mum is in his past