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Tiger7's picture

Check this out - my SO's 2 teen daughters just got their first paychecks - they only work 2 days a week and get paid once a month. They each cleared $150. Their bm has told them they both owe her money. She claims the 15 yr old broke a candle she got at a garage sale for $75 so she feels she owes her the 75. WTH? The youngest is 15 and she is clearly afraid of her mom. She says if she doesn't give her the money, she'll get grounded and will have to spend hours cleaning the house and getting yelled at. Neither of them have bank accts so my SO had them endorse the checks and we're putting it in our savings and will give them the money when they need it. We both work FT so we don't need or want their money. I can't believe their bm would try to take their money. Anyway, they're with us this weekend and it just happened so she doesn't know yet.....we're waiting for the threatening phone call.....the one where she'll threaten to take him back to court, blah blah blah. SMH

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Disneyfan's picture

The child broke something, mom is making her replace it(teaching the kid to be responsible/accountable for her actions).

Dad did not have to deposit the money into your joint account. He could have gone to the bank with the girls and had them each open their accounts.

Of course, that would have prevented him from intervening in the lesson mom is trying to teach.

Tiger7's picture

Teaching lessons is all well and good - did it with my own kids. However, her history is that whenever the girls get any kind of money, she says they "owe" her. And a $75 candle at a garage sale - no way. She herself doesn't have the disposable income to buy a $75 candle. She doesn't work. I would have bought that line if it was a $5 or $10 item. She clearly wants 1/2 of their paychecks. He does plan to have them open their own accounts but with school and work schedules, they have to wait until they can coordinate the time to do it. They both work Saturdays from 7am to 4pm - banks are closed by the time they're out. For now, he will deposit the checks and give the cash to them when they need it. They're all for it.

Disneyfan's picture

The amount is ridiculous but not the end goal.

Some people do require their teens to pay a set amount each pay day. They do it to teach them about needs vs wants.

That was the first thing that came to mind when I read "you owe me".

Tiger7's picture

Teachable moments are very important....I did that many times with my own. My kids are older now (22, 27 & 29) and all are very responsible. Their bm seems to only want to get over on people, including her own kids and uses the "system" as much as she can. She hustles people and seems like that's all she ever teaches them: how to hustle and barter for what you want. I'm so disgusted by her. I am really trying to teach them to see the world differently. The oldest is hopefully going to college next year - she needs to and wants to go away and live on campus....wants to "get away from mom" (her words, not mine).
I was just venting because every week its something with this woman.....don't know why I keep feeling surprised by her antics. By the way - I turned to this forum so I could vent because I do not say anything bad to or around the girls. Although I couldn't help but make a face when the one told us about the candle.

notsobad's picture

BM here used to take things that were given to the skids.

SD had a laptop, a grad gift from DHs parents, BM took it with her to oil city when got a job there. SD stayed at her house in our city and could use the house computer, BM needed the laptop, SD didn't.

SS got a prepaid cell phone from the same grandparents, BM took it and used it because she had business to do while on the road, besides SS shouldn't have a phone in school.

We rented SD a car, hers had been in an accident, BM took it to go visit her father and left SD with her POS because she didn't want to break down on the road. If SD broke down she'd be able to get help quickly.

We gave $$ directly to the skid for school. They both had scholarships for tuition but needed money for food and rent. They'd budgeted and we approved the budgets. She would take some of it from them and tell them to ask us for more. Because we were trying to teach them how to budget we never gave them any extra.

I'm so happy that they are on their own, working and any thing they give her is coming straight from them.

Tiger7's picture

Wow - sounds like it could be the same woman. We gave youngest a cell phone and put it on our plan....my SO put certain parental controls on it because he didn't want her using up the data and costing him an arm and leg or using the phone after 10pm during the week when she should be in bed. The phone would still work at any time to call him or 911 if necessary. BM didn't like the controls so she broke the phone. There's so many stories......

still learning's picture

You may want to open each of the girls their own accounts that are joint w/their father, that way BM can't accuse you guys of *stealing* their money.

Disneyfan's picture

Another option for the 15 year old is to go with an account that is deposit only until the age of 18.

My sister and BIL have those for their 4 kids(20,18,12 and 10). They didn't/won't allow them to touch the accounts until they were on campus freshmen year.

Maxwell09's picture

While I don't agree with Bm making the kid pay 75$ for a candle, your DH isn't helping them in the long run by helping them hide their money from their mom to keep them from paying her. Think about it, if she's crazy enough to charge her kid 75$ for a candle, then she's going to explode on them when she finds out they gave their dad their money instead of her. Yes, yes, I know "y'all don't need it" but a BM like this isnt going to see it that way. She views the children as extensions of herself and therefore their money is HER money and y'all have taken it from her. Does it make sense? No, not to us normal people. Your DH is setting those girls up for a world of trouble. If anything, he should call Bm and asked her about this candle and when she tells him the girl owes her money he should tell Bm he will give the girl 20$ out of her savings (from the money she's been working for) to pay for the candle, but the rest is not to be touched. He needs to tell BM the girls already have to put up money for their future: car, insurance, gas, college, etc so she can have her 20$ but the rest of their money is already accounted for. I would also suggest your skids get their own bank accounts which they can with their dads help (if he truly wants to help and NOT control them) and have their employers direct deposit because once BM finds out the girls are opting to let him take charge of their money she's going to intervene and "go pick up their checks for them" or take it from them before they get to their dads.

Tiger7's picture

You're right - she is nuts and will "ground" them if she doesn't get her way. My SO will be talking to her about all this. We def plan to open their own accts - unfortunately this employer doesn't have direct deposit capability. Its not like a big company. Its a community center and this job is for teenage entrepenuers - they come up with the product and then sell it at the public market. Its very cool and all the teens work hard so I just hate the thought of the BM taking their money.
Again - there are so many stories of her behavior and not just from the girls.....other family members have had their crazy encounters with her.
One of the girls was doing a video chat with her on a cell phone (at our house) and when she spotted me, she wanted to "talk" to me too - said what she had to say, I answered...it was about a 5 min talk, nothing big. I sincerely thought we were done, so I walked off. Daughter and SO said she cried when I walked away saying I had been disrespectful. Wth? I purposefully have extremely limited contact with her. My ex and I get along so well (and his current wife) that people are in awe. I wish my SO could have that kind of relationship with is ex - life would be so much easier.

Superstepper's picture

My own BM is like this. She did that to me when I was a working teen. She worked but we struggled mostly. I gave it out of force and tried to see it as helping. However we do not have a good relationship now as a result (plus other stuff too). You can bet they'll resent her for it.

Tiger7's picture

I believe you're right. The oldest is already trying hard to get away from her. Its pretty sad - she doesn't realize what she's doing to them. She thinks she is a fantastic mother

ESMOD's picture

My s kids mom did similar. They would have to pay for 've bills. They learned to not let mom know what they earned.to this day as adults they give her monry.

sunshinex's picture

First of all, I buy stupid expensive candles and have yet to come across a $75 one lol my most expensive is the henry bendel candle I bought (don't ask why) but it was only $30. And I keep it, along with any other expensive items, out of my SDs reach so she can't wreck them. She once wrecked one of my bath and body works candles but she's 5 so I guess it's different lol

This is definitely a dumb ploy to take their money, and it's quite sad. If a child wrecks something, even at 15, punish them at the time. IE tell them "you are going to pay me back this much" or "you are going to do these chores to make up for it" you don't wait until a long time later than demand money when they get it. That's not punishment, that's using an excuse to take money from a child.

notasm3's picture

When I was in high school 50+ years ago, I dinged a car getting out of a parking lot. I'd just had a poem published. The money that I received was the same as the deductible for the car I hit. I had to use that money to pay for the damages.

I'm still kind of in awe that that I made that much money for a stupid poem I wrote at 15.

But it was nothing like having $75 made up for an imaginary candle.

No Name's picture

I like the idea of the account where you can deposit but not withdraw any money. They could keep some pocket money and deposit the rest. That would be teaching them how to save and how to budget the cash that they kept out.

I believe that teaching children to be responsible is important and if they damaged another persons property they should have to replace it or pay for it. Maybe you could have the SS find a replacement on line. Might be cheaper than handing over $75.00 and would take care of the candle issue although I am sure that the candle is just an excuse.

Tiger7's picture

Thanks everyone for the input. I really need this forum to vent cause like I said, I mainly try to keep it to myself.