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Did I miss my chance at being a BM? Do I even want to be one?

Silently_stressing's picture

I've never really wanted kids. But when I met my current husband he had two sons. They are 17 and 14 now. We've been together for over 8 years, married for a year and a half. I love him to death. He's the best thing that's ever happened to me..  Which is why I keep my mouth shut about his kids. They're not bad kids. Just lazy and irresponsible. And it drives me crazy. I know it sounds terrible, but im just trying to bite my tongue until they move out.

We were financially unstable for a better part of the relationship which I think played a big part in me not wanting kids of my own. But within the last two years we have gotten better jobs with benefits and have really improved. Honestly it's the stability that I've always wanted. 

I turned 30 this year and for some reason I can't get my mind off the biological kid aspect.  I talked to hubby about it. He's 45. And I know realistically it's just not a good idea. He's concerned about being that age and honestly so am I. He says well be empty nesters in a few years and be able to enjoy our time even more. We have plans of building a house in a few years also. I just can't shake the feeling of regret of never having my own little girl. Obviously I can't pick the gender but since it's not happening, in my mind, I'd have a daughter. But now that we actually are in a financial situation to do it I feel like it's just too late. Like I missed my chance. I try to let it go and tell myself it just wasn't in the plans for me. But I find myself thinking about it constantly. 

I know this a place for step parents so I'll get to my point. I find my patience wearing thin with SS17, especially. So I'm concerned that my longing for a child is just me not having any control over how SS17 and SS14 are raised. And also that I will end up resentful towards both of them and my husband. Has anyone else been through this? Not having biological children because you already have step kids? 

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Silently_stressing's picture

I appreciate your insight. I've always kind of assumed that biological children are much different than step. I just have no way of actually knowing that. And like I said, I'm not even sure I want them. I can just see how I would do things differently with my own if given the chance. 

Siemprematahari's picture

You're still young enough to have a child, if this is what you really and truly want. You need to do some soul searching and figure out if this is what you want. If you want a child, do not let the fact that you have stepkids be the reason that you don't. Your H has kids already, so for him its not an issue but it can be for you and I promise you will be bitter and resentful should you not do what you desire.

I'd have a conversation with him about it and depending on what he says you're going to have to make a decision on what to do. If he does, great and if he doesn't are you ok with living the rest of your life with no child of your own and placing your wants and needs aside for him?

Silently_stressing's picture

I understand what you're saying. I have talked with him about it. He's not really up for starting over. But he said if it'll make me happy then well do it. I just don't want him to resent me for that either. Hes a really great person and we've really grown together. I kinda feel like that's what you do in a relationship... Make sacrifices. Maybe once his kids move on and were alone, these feelings will pass. At least that's what I'm hoping for at this point. 

ESMOD's picture

Unfortunately this is one of the potential downsides of dating someone 15 years older than you are.  You are both in different stages of life.  He is looking forward to a young childfree stage where you and he would be able to travel and save for retirement.  He has raised two kids and could be looking at living "his best life" without child obligations starting in his early 50's.  

You, on the other hand, could have a child now in your early thirties and be at that childfree stage in YOUR early 50's... BUT your husband wouldn't be child free until he was in his 60's.  

So.. having a child for him now means putting of his plans for doing his own thing (and worry about health issues) for another 20 years give/take.

Skids don't replace bios for most people.  I personally never had a bio and have a very close relationship with my YSD.. but it is different than a bio relationship I'm sure.

 

Silently_stressing's picture

Well we met when I was 22 with no plans of having my own kids. And I can totally see where he is coming from. He'd be retiring when our child would be graduating give or take. And he did bring up the health concerns also. He made a lot of valid points which is why I've been trying to let it go. I'd always hoped I could have a connection with the step kids but I just can't find one. Maybe because theyre boys. I don't know. But I can't find anything in common with them. Nothing to "bond" Over. And I feel terrible for it. 

ESMOD's picture

If this is something that is important to you.. it's just as important for you both to talk about what it would mean for you both to either go for it.. or decide against it.  His kids are not your bio kids.. and if you want a child of your own.. they are not just substitutes.  

Now... if you got married with an agreement that you didn't and wouldn't ever have kids and you are now changing the game.. that may be a little harder to walk back.

BUT.. he has said he would try if it would make you happy.  That is a positive right?  Perhaps you and he need to talk more about what it would mean for you both.. financially.. socially.. freedomwise.. retirement etc...

Do you have family like parents that would be interested in taking an active part of a child's life.  Maybe that means that your child might spend a week or two at a time with your parents when they were a bit older.. and that would still free you and your DH to travel as a couple?  Can you afford to have a child.. will it limit your spending.. or make it necessary for him to delay retirement?  How can that be mitigated? 

I don't think that this has to be a NO GO.. he has indicated that your happiness DOES matter to him.  I wouldn't put this idea to bed if you really want it.

Silently_stressing's picture

Actually where we had planned on building a house is within walking distance to my mom and dad. She absolutely adores all her grandchildren and takes them any chance she gets. Shes an amazing mother and grandmother. And I have no doubt that she'd enjoy another. 

In the beginning of our relationship, we talked about kids and I said I wasn't worried about and that was pretty much the end of it. It wasnt until we got our finances in order (and turned 30) that these thoughts started coming to me. Is there a "turning 30" Crisis stage? Like a mid life crisis? 

It is positive that he cares about my happiness. And I love him for it. But what sacrifices is he making if he really doesn't want to do it? I can't ask him to do that without even being sure if it's what I want. 

Siemprematahari's picture

You were 22 years old when you stated not wanting children but you know what.....we do change our minds and that's ok. You have grown and evolved, you are not that 22 year old anymore. The question here is if wanting your own biological child what you truly desire....this is where you need to dig deep and find out.

Once you figure that out you can discuss it with H and how you both will move forward. I definitely understand both sides but right now you have to see if this is what you want.

Silently_stressing's picture

And theres the problem. I can't figure out if that's what I want or if it's just a phase. At least if I don't have one and I'm wrong, there's no child potentially suffering in a broken family. 

ESMOD's picture

Obviously, you do need to work through your own wants/feelings. At 30.. you are likely getting that biological clock signal that your body wants to get hopping on continuing the species..lol.  But, is that what you REALLY want?  I didn't thinkI wanted kids when I was younger.. but now that my opportunity HAS passed.. I'm not sure that there isn't some regret that I pushed down what I might have wanted because I was thinking for others too much.

It does depend upon what your expectations are for your DH in this situation... when you talk sacrifices.. what do you mean?  I mean, is it just having a child in the house?  Is it that he feels it will be a financial burden for him?  Do you earn money to the point where it would be relatively easy to afford to have a child?

I mean, some parents are very involved.. others more hands off.  Your DH doesn't have to be a day to day caregiver if that 's not what you and he agree to.  he may not have to limit what he wants to do.. and the only real sacrifice might be having a minor child in the home longer than he planned.. but what were his plans otherwise and how can you both work it out so that those plans aren't sacrificed?

He may have wanted to travel more.. well.. with your parents close and willing.. perhaps that's an easy solution?  Maybe he is worried about paying for another child's education whle saving for his own retirement.  Well.. maybe you take on more of that.. or agree that this child will need to earn his or her way through school.. and that retirement savings will be a priority?

I mean.. what does your DH think he will lose or sacrifice.. how can you  make that sacrifice less or offset in some way.. and obviously making you happy is in that equation.

 

Silently_stressing's picture

We both have factory jobs that offer excellent benefits. We are definitely financially able to care for a child. I don't think retirement is something we'd have to worry about. 

We try to be involved as possible with the kids extracurricular activities. But he's tired alot. I am too actually but I work a ton of overtime. So maybe hes concerned about that too. He'd be in his 50s by the time a new kid was doing activities. How much energy can I really expect him to have. 

My dad was pretty serious on my siblings and I about being independent. I started working at 16 and have pretty much bought everything for myself since. Many times I've worked multiple jobs. It seemed rough at the time but looking back I'm glad he did. It was a real eye opener. I've made my mistakes but my work ethic has always been on point. And I think that's important if you want to make a life for yourself. I would expect similar out of my own child. Just be more understanding and helpful about it. All of us have college degrees that we paid for ourselves, full time jobs, own a house, and have never been in any trouble. My dad had the right idea, it's just his method that was a little off. But I would apply many of the same principles to one of my own. 

ESMOD's picture

Haha.. in his 50's.. lol.  (I'm 54).  Believe me, I am fairly certain barring some serious health issues that your husband will have enough energy to go to his daughter's dance recital or watch her compete in the science fair when he is in his 50's. In fact, perhaps having another child might be an INCENTIVE for him to take care of himself so that he will be able to be active as he ages.

We all get more aches and pains as we age.. but most people don't start experiencing really limiting age issues until they are in their 60's or well beyond that in many cases.  My dad really didn't start getting a bit shakier on his pins until he was in his late 80's.

Now, I get that your DH may have had thoughts of you and he getting a harley and riding to the hills of South Dakota etc.. maybe that would be more difficult with a child. maybe not.

We always brought/drug my DH's kids with us where ever we went..pretty much.  Or they stayed home if it was absolutely not appropriate (like our honeymoon).

You can be parents that cater and put their kids on a pedastle or you can be the kind of parents that live your own lives and expect your kids to accomodate to YOU.. That doesn't mean you never do things that kids like.. but not every outing is a trip to chuck e cheese.  I think if you commit to still doing the things you want.. in spite of having a child.. it CAN work.

lieutenant_dad's picture

I'm 31. My SSs are 17 and 13. I have been in their lives for 6+ years now. It has been in the last 2ish years that we have become financially secure. The only real differences in our stories is that my DH is a decade younger than yours, had a vasectomy, and I knew I wanted kids from the start.

For me, SKs aren't enough. DH and BM raise them differently than I would my own. DH is the NCP so he is a "part-time parent". I've never bonded with them like they were my own kids. I'd say we have more of an aunt-nephew relationship at best. We're family, but we definitely don't have a parent-child bond or relationship.

I can empathize greatly with what you are feeling. My XH told me he didn't want to have kids, which kicked off the end of that marriage (though plenty of other things should have done that). I struggled for a while debating whether I really wanted to be a mother or whether I could be childless. In the end, I wanted a family of my own making.

You're at a crossroads. If you want kids, you'll have to decide if that want trumps your want to stay with your DH if he is adamant about no more kids. You have a little time to make that decision; it's not something that had to be decided today. You can speak with a therapist who can help you through exercises to make this decision for yourself. You can research other options that may meet your needs, such as fostering or becoming a Big Sister. You can look into adopting an older child so that your DH gets his empty nest 8 years later than he hoped instead of 18 (that makes it sound like adoption is a transaction; I am only mentioning this route if your DH is okay with being a father to another child but worries about starting from scratch at his age).

If you think you might regret not having kids, then you owe it to yourself to really dive into this and figure out your true feelings. You're going to have to have some pretty tough conversations with your DH, too.

I don't envy the position you are in. Been there, done that, sorta still in it. I'm happy to chat with you if that would help, because it's very isolating to not know or have a clear direction.

Silently_stressing's picture

I've been secretly fighting this battle for almost a year with myself. It makes me feel really alone. I've considered the big sister thing but I honestly don't know how hubby would feel about that because I really don't spend much time with his kids. 

My brother and his wife are fostering 3 kids right now. One is a 2 year old girl. She is just as sweet as she can be. Always wants hugs. Always smiling. Everytime I see her I image my little girl being like that. I'm jealous of them. But I've also seen the jealousy in the eyes of their biological teenage children. 

Ss17 talks about moving out after graduation. But he's taken no action towards that. He only works part time and we have to drive him because he doesn't even have a permit. So if being "empty nesters" Is one of hubby excuses for not another kid then I have to hope that he realizes that means not allowing them to stay here with no ambition for as long as they want. SS17 most recent idea was to take a year off (no military, no college, maybe work) to "focus on physical fitness". Which, knowing him, means " I want to lay around and play video games while not having any responsibility"

And yes  I would love to chat with you about this. It's nice knowing there's other people in similar situations

tog redux's picture

Sounds like you've changed your mind and you DO want children, there is nothing wrong with that.  DH may not want more children at this point, so you will both need to decide which is more important to you - having/not having more children, or your relationship.

And don't let him try to convince you that you should be content just to have your rude and ill-behaved stepkids in your life and don't need bio kids.

Silently_stressing's picture

When we talked about this, he never said I should be content with his boys. He actually pointed out that they be off doing their own things in a few years and we could be empty nesters and do the things we want to do. And not be too old to enjoy it. He actually assumes that if they're not on their own they will probably move back in with their mother because she will baby them and let them do what they want. 

And i may not be 100% certain that I want a child but I am 100% certain that I want him in my life. So I feel that if he's not completely behind this then its not worth it... 

justmakingthebest's picture

I can certainly see this from both yours and your husband's sides. I had my kids in my early and mid 20's on purpose. I wanted to be in my early 40's when my kids were off to college and under 50 when they were done with it all. But I always knew that I wanted to be a mother. Stepkids are no consolation prize. 

I did want to share with you some thing though. My mother's best friend, my godmother, is childless except for her POS SS. Her husband has already had a vasectomy when they met. She had no plans to be a mother so it was a good fit. Until her early 30's. She spent about 4-5 years really regretting her choice to not have kids. Then she kind of settled back into the idea. She says no (she is in her early 60's) that those years weren't really her wanting a kid, she wasn't really willing to give up her lifestyle for a child, it was hormones and biological clocks screwing with her brain. I just wanted to throw that out there. 

I am not saying you should or shouldn't, just make sure that if you decide to have a child it isn't a primal thing, it is what you really want. 

Silently_stressing's picture

Because of my husband not wanting more kids, I hope that this will pass on its own and it is hormonal. I've talked to one of my sisters about it. Shes 37. No kids, never been married.. I can't honestly say shes ever had a healthy relationship. But she still has regrets of not having kids and it being too late for her. She's afraid I'll have that too. 

CLove's picture

Im 51. Ive no bios.

My experience with Munchkin SD13 REALLY makes me regret HIGHLY my not being able to bear chidren naturally.

Shes wonderful, kind, sweet, smart, mature. We love each others company. She sais I love you.

But after a week of "playing mom" to someone elses child, she will then scamper off to MOM. She will say I love you MOM. When it comes to education and medical I am the "step" aside, and have no say in anything important. I cannot restrict her screen time nor can I control what she eats (shes obese).

I pour out my nurturing and love on this child, and treat her like shes my kid, but at the end of the day she looks exactly like her mother, and has her habits, and likes/dislikes, her mannerisms. I have no "claim" to carrying her in my body, and giving birth. I have no stretch marks with her name on them. Ive only "been in her life".

I would have my own kid, if it was me.

susanm's picture

I fully empathize with you.  I can not biologically have children but wanted to adopt.  DH initially was on board but there was never a "good time" with the issues with the skids and then it morphed into him not wanting to start over and questioning how it would impact my career and our relationship.  Bottom line is that he had changed his mind, although in hindsight I question how committed he actually was to the idea in the first place.  He had his children and it has been a mixed bag of how happy that choice has made his life.  He made a poor choice in BM and I don't think he fully grasps the difference the mother and her attitude toward what a man is "supposed to do" makes in a fatherhood experience.  To her his role was to pay for things and interact with them only as she deemed fit from the day they were born despite the fact that they were married until the kids were in high to middle school respectively.  Hardly a surprise that his relationship with them is wanting!  Needless to say, that is not my thinking and I wanted him to be fully involved.

I regret choosing not to become a mother by adoption.  Now it truly is too late.  That deep sadness is something I will take to my grave.  I have had a good life, I have made the deliberate decision to make an actual difference in the lives of others so that my life will have had meaning beyond my own existence, and I have no reason to think that I am anywhere near finished soon.  But when I do draw my last breath, I will be thinking of the children with my first husband I miscarried who I wanted with all my heart and that I never loved a living child who called me mother.

Not everyone wants to be a parent.  If you do not then you are in a good position to plan your life as you want it right now.  But please take the time to truly examine your heart.  I made a big mistake by not doing that when I had the chance.

DHsfamilyfromhell's picture

Your ‘biological clock’ has kicked in, it’s not a crisis. You have time to weigh up your options. 

BethAnne's picture

I am 35, been with my husband for 8 years now, married over 6 years. We went back and forth on wether to have kids or not for years then finally decided to start trying earlier this year because we finally had the space for a kid and clocks were ticking. Still no luck for us after 9 months, not sure it will happen. We had often talked about adopting some older children as that way we can miss out on the baby stage and have kids who are nearer to my sd11 age and let us not have to have another 18 years of children in the house. We will probably start looking into adoption next year. I am still not 100% sure if I want to raise someone elses kid again, but have heard that adoption feels different to step kids as the birth parents have no legal rights. 

It is tough to make these decisions when you are not driven by a huge maternal urge, but I am 100% sure that if sd did not exist we would have had kids by now (if nature allowed it). Children are a great contraceptive. But then my husband would not be the man that I fell in love with if he did not have the experience of being a father before I met him. Life turns out how it turns out and it is rarely how we would have predicted.