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My step son hurt me tonight and I’m FURIOUS!

Shananigans's picture

I have been with my husband for over 6 years, married for 2. The kid (16 year old) that we are speaking of was abandoned by his blood mom 12 years ago, he has anger issues and hates most women. He is constantly starting crap with me so that Dad and I fight. He has some sick obsession trying to get rid of me! I’ve never put my hands on him, but he is disciplined mainly by me and loses priveledges when he acts ridiculous! 

Tonight he was being very disrespectful and mouthy, this is a normal occurrence and I’m OVER IT! So I came in the house and took his phone off the counter. (We pay this bill) He ran in behind me and wrapped his arms around my throat and tackled me to the ground and got his phone out of my hands. I hollered for my husband who came in after I had gotten up and told me I chased said kid in and I was the aggressor. It took him 15 minutes to stop running at the jaw and listen to my story as I’m balling! This is not the first time this kid has put his hands on me, picked me up one day and slammed me on the hardwood floor.

My husband left and took said kid and I never heard from him for 3 1/2 hours and only after I messaged him. When he left I was hysterical...very upset. He never even tried to console before he left. This parental abuse just took my mind to a whole new level. My husband hasn’t been supporting me in the lack of respect I get from this child. I’m sleeping at our second home tonight and don’t feel like I ever want to go home.

What should I do? I feel so lost and so angry that I didn’t even attempt to stand up for myself!! I can’t live like this! 

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DPW's picture

What should you do?

Change the locks. 

Seriously, a teenage boy has put his hands on you more than once, and his ball-less father allows this. I stand corrected, call the police first and then change the locks. 

Shananigans's picture

Through thickness and thin doesn’t cover abuse, does it? I didn’t think so either. 

Cooooookies's picture

For better or worse does NOT include any sort of abuse.  Call the police, press charges, file a restraining order, change the locks and put their clothes in black sacks on the front porch for them to collect.  It is ABUSE from both of them.  Get out now.

justmakingthebest's picture

There should never be abuse in a marriage. 

Your husband is supposed to be your protector. Your guardian. Your safe place. He has violated all of those things. He is not a good man to allow this to happen. He is even a worse man for not making sure that this was the last time it would ever happen to you. He is despicable for blaming you for being assaulted. 

Monkeysee's picture

I agree with the others, press charges on him. Taking a phone away is not grounds to attack someone. Press charges, and stop parenting, disciplining, or being alone with SS at any point. Put it all back on your H's shoulders, and start planning your exit.  Anyone who defends someone who's just attacked you isn't worth staying with.

STaround's picture

Not certain here, and he allowed the kid to use it, the kid has the right to grab it back.  I dont think pressing charges will go anywhere it will be she said he said.   Why she has put herself in the position of dicliplanarnian is crazy.   She needs to file for divorce. 

Monkeysee's picture

Oops, you're right.  Dad lets the kid use the phone, so kid absolutely had the right to wrap his hands around OP's neck to 'grab it back'.

WTF world do you live in where ASSAULT is ok?  Her being a disciplinarian has nothing to do with it. NOTHING excuses assault.  Taking a phone away - whether YOU think it's warranted or not - is NOT a excuse to wrap your hands around someone else's throat.

Yes, OP should go to the cops. Start a paper trail, have pictures taken of any bruising or lacerations as a result of her SS's attack.

The only thing I agree with you on is OP needs to file for divorce. 

Aunt Agatha's picture

1. Police - press charges and find out what you need for a restraining order.  Take pictures of any bruising, etc.

2. Lawyer - This kid has attacked you more than once and your H thinks it’s your fault?  SS isn’t the only one who has no respect for you in your household.  You need to get out of this relationship.  You are not safe.  This behavior will continue to escalate.

3. Women’s violence shelter.  Start working on your escape plan.  They can help.

Please get out of that toxic and dangerous situation.

Aniki-Moderator's picture

If she goes to the police, they will likely take pictures of bruises/abrasions for evidence. BTDT.

tog redux's picture

Wow. I wouldn’t stay a minute longer with a man who allowed his son to physically assault me and then blamed me for it  

And this is why it doesn’t work for stepparents to be the only disciplinarian. 

justmakingthebest's picture

Absolutely agree with the other posters.

1- Go to the magistrates office and file charges and a Restraining Order.

2- Contact a lawyer. See if you can change the locks on the house.

3- Seek counseling ASAP. Do not get sucked back in to this cycle of abuse. 

One of the things that I am afraid of, if my SS14 comes to live with us is him getting physical with me. He is going to be angry. DH is going to be gone. I am a tough mom, mean mom at times. I am also a really fun and understanding mom, but I don't take any back talk or disrespect from any of his or my kids. I have already told DH, and he fully backs me- If SS14 ever lays a hand on me, I will call the police. DH agrees that if SS takes it to that level we have to have a united front and we have to make sure that he is held responsible as a juvenile to understand that you can't hurt people, especially women, especially women that are smaller than you. I was abused by my exH. DH knows and is the best supporter of me in all of my issues from that. He would never allow me to feel unsafe in my own home. 

You have a shit husband. I am sorry to say that. I have had one too. You have to get out of this situation and not look back. You don't deserve to be hurt in your own home. You don't deserve a spouse that turns his back on you when you have been hurt- even if it was his son who did it. 

Please keep us updated.

shamds's picture

your husband should protect you from this. If your mentality is that reporting this kid to cops for physical assault is going against wedding vows, how many more times of this treatment will it take before you accept your life is in danger?

will it take 10 times of this followed by one occasion when he comes with a baseball bat and whacks you till unconscious? Is daddy dearest gonna protect poor little ss??

what happens if this skid did the same to your own kid? Would you justify it as reporting that to the police is going against wedding vows?

abuse starts with manipulating the victim to feel guilty for reporting you, that somehow you are the baddy. Lots of people lose their temper but never do we go grabbing peoples throats and tackling them to the ground.

i’m visualising that for a moment in my home and i would be calling the police and if hubby tried protecting his son, if he justified and excused it and didn’t have my back, we’d be getting a divorce. No way would i take that multiple times.

any parent that allows this treatment to continue without repercussions is telling their child this is perfectly ok to do to people when it isn’t

Aniki-Moderator's picture

Hon, you should have pressed charges against this hoodlum the first time he assaulted you. 

You definitely need to go the police and report this. Especially if the police need to take pictures of your bruises/abrasions for the file. File a restraining order against the son. Change the locks on the house ASAP.

Your husband's man-child physically assaulted you and your jerkwad husband blamed YOU. There is NO EXCUSE for you being attacked. NONE. For that POS "man" to condone his son's act of violence is despicable. I would not be surprised if he took off with his psychopath son to hide him from the police and the possiblity that you would file charges.

YOU NEED TO FILE CHARGES.

SS has already attacked you TWICE. If you are foolish enough to stay, expect it to happen again. Please love yourself enough to protect yourself.

STaround's picture

She has NO grounds to kick her DH out. 

People who say change locks are making suggestions that can end up with someone having court problems. 

Now, her DH may be willing to move out if she CAN get a RO.  But for her to claim possession of the house may result in legal problems.

I do not know why she has not filed for divorce when this started.

Aniki-Moderator's picture

She is not kicking him out - she's staying in their SECOND home, so she is not denying her jackass husband and his jackass son access to the PRIMARY home. 

I also believe she should have filed for divorce previously. 

STaround's picture

People here think that legal rights ONLY belong to women.  Does not work that way.   OP needs to file for divorce, and get a court order to figure out who has temporary rights to what house. 

Aniki-Moderator's picture

Uh, I didn't say that at all. I'm going by what OP said - that it's "OUR second home". If it's their mutually-owned home, she has every right to change the locks. And then give her H a key. 

Aniki-Moderator's picture

Well, I was responding to the OP's post and the fact that she is in the second home when I said to change the locks - NOT change the locks on the primary home and don't let H and SS in EVER. I consider the lock change a temporary measure since H and SS still have accsss to the primary home. Who knows what will transpire (press charges, RO, etc...)? It may well be that OP is allowed to remain in the second home while things are settled - who knows what that may be. If she divorces, it may become HER primary home. 

susanm's picture

Since they have 2 homes, it would be more than reasonable to ask for temporary exclusive use of the second home to ensure her safety until the property is divided in the divorce and she can get her own residence.  This is an unusual situation and very different than the standard decision of whether or not to kick the spouse and child out of a home.

HowLongIsForever's picture

People here think laws don't apply to CODs. 

Dad may not technically lose access to one or both homes but as he appears to be the sole legal guardian to a perpetrator of domestic violence with whom he shares residence along with the victim, he may be in a position to lose access by proxy - either to his dysfunctional dangerous child or physical possession of shared space with OP.

Removing a perpetrator from shared residence has zero to do with asset division in a divorce. 

Complications for a guardian that might arise when that perp is their legal responsibility are of no concern to the victim.

 

STaround's picture

I do think laws apply to CODs.   And to parents. 

And I cannot tell who the WE are that pay for the phone or that own the home, but if it is DADs home, he can file some charges of his own. 

HowLongIsForever's picture

My mistake then, it's not a matter of thinking laws do or don't apply to certain subsets of people.

Is it a lack of knowledge in the realm of domestic violence then?

Because all of your responses seem to be ignoring the big flashing sign that elevates this scenario from obnoxious unruly stepkid that resents stepmoms existence to domestic violence with serious indicators for far more violent escalation.

ETA: I don't know how I missed this.  What charges does the dad get to file? We'll ignore that neither adult in this situation can actually file charges, let's suppose that your choice of words is how the criminal system actually works.  What crime did stepmom commit against dad? Or minor child?  What law did stepmom break that could be in the realm of prosecution in this kid's twisted dreams? I'll give you a hint, holding physical possession of a cell phone, used by a minor, up until he choked her isn't it.  

STaround's picture

I think that if dad would not deal with his kid to her satisfaction, she should have filed for divorce.  Escalating to physiclaly taking away the phone, without consulting dad?  Bad move. 

Shananigans's picture

I have disciplined these children for 6 years, ALL of them! Mostly on my own, without support, Dad tries to be the “good guy” I refuse to not parent children in my own home! I’m raising my own children here as well, should I be showing them that the step children can get away with whatever they want? We would have ALOT more assholes running around if there wasn’t  consequences to actions! 

tog redux's picture

It doesn't work to discipline stepkids, especially once they are teens and if the other parent gives them the message that you are wrong. 

Shananigans's picture

I know your right, but I want these children to grow up to be respectful adults. Shame on me for trying to do what’s right! 

tog redux's picture

What? He can't file charges on her for taking the phone as discipline.  She didn't steal it or break it.  

STaround's picture

If something does not belong to you.  Still do not know, does phone belong to dad or to OP.

Now, if phone belongs to dad, and he allows OP to take away, not stealing.  Does not sound to me like there is a lot of agreement here about what OP does. 

tog redux's picture

Oh for the love. The police would shake their heads in annoyance and leave if DH tried to press charges for that. Ridiculous. 

tog redux's picture

I think you missed the part where THE KID HAS HIS PHONE BACK.  And a person in a parent role taking a phone for discipline is different than a child stealing valuables for her own use.  Surely you do understand the distinction? Or do you believe your kids can call the police on you for taking their phone away? 

If you STEAL something and DON'T GIVE IT BACK, with the purpose of USING IT YOURSELF OR SELLING IT, charges can be pressed.  If a parent CONFISCATES a phone for DISCIPLINE PURPOSES, that is not STEALING. 

I hope that made it more clear. 

DPW's picture

Arguing again for nothing. I think you lack the self awareness to realize that you look ridiculous when you do this and in all honesty, it's really getting old to read over and over and over again on these boards. You constantly derail conversations to support your own, warped agenda. 

Once again, you are excusing poor behaviour of a CHILD because a PERSON IN AUTHORITY took control of the situation. 

Monkeysee's picture

So taking a phone as punishment is stealing now?  Seriously?  We advise SM's to press charges for stealing when their items are removed from the home. Did OP remove the phone from the home? No. Pressing charges for confiscating the phone of a minor within the home is nothing short of a laugh.

tog redux's picture

Seriously, I'd love to see the look on the police officer's face.

DH: Officer, my wife took my son's phone for discipline and he choked her a response to that! I want to press charges on her for stealing his phone!

Police: You say your son choked her as a response to discipline?

DH: Yes, please arrest her for theft! 

Police:  Let's go, SS, you are coming with us for choking your stepmother. 

Monkeysee's picture

No kidding.  I sometimes worry for her DH & his kids with the absolute crap she spews out on this site.  So she'd press charges for theft on her husband if he dared taking one of her kids phones away as punishment, but totally overlook the assault her child issued to her DH for taking the phone??  Something tells me he needs this site more than she does.

tog redux's picture

I'd love to have a conversation with him, but I suspect his logic is just as confusing. 

I do notice STaround never, ever mentions her skids.  I don't even know how many or how old they are. 

STaround's picture

They are 11 and 13.  DHs ex has primary customy. BEFORE I got married, I aaked and monitored his relationship with them, and made it clear, I was not going to be the mome.

tog redux's picture

Make a blog and let everyone criticize your stepparenting and his parenting.  You are quick to criticize, but don't open yourself up to it. 

Siemprematahari's picture

It's not theft if the phone technically belongs to her and his father (they pay the bill). SS just has the privilege of using a cell phone.

beebeel's picture

It's not even theft if the other parent pays for it. The police told my SD that her father and I have the right to confiscate any item his child brings into our home.

GoingWicked's picture

This.  Children do not have property rights (with an exception for child actors, etc basically kids that make more money than it takes to support themselves).  

Also, husbands and wives can’t steal from each other, that would have to apply to every item that you handled or took away from the house, trying to prosecute that would be be utterly ridiculous... which is why there is a civil court for that stuff.

TwoOfUs's picture

Uh Oh. 

I used to confiscate phones as discipline all the time as a teacher. Looks like I could have thousands of misdemeanors on my record if only the kids had know they could press charges!!!

Give me a break. Even more ridiculous when you are paying for said phone and setting rules for your household. 

FWIW - I would never get involved with discipline for the skids, though I did set rules about bedtime, eating/kitchen hours, TV times, etc. Things I needed to make my home that I was paying for tolerable to me. But I wasn't ever the enforcer and DH was a fairly good disciplinarian most of the time...it helps that he likes order and structure even more than I do. 

HowLongIsForever's picture

So its not just domestic violence you're unfamiliar with, its possession, theft, liability and maybe even contract law.

Nothing in this situation, even if the phone itself and service contract are in the father's name, constitutes a charge of theft (or stealing). 

What OP did does not justify what skid did nor how her husband reacted.  Nor does it justify the treatment she's receiving from some of you here.

HowLongIsForever's picture

What's with the well if its dad's phone or you should've disengaged drum beating? That ish can't be for real.  I mean come on, really?

Hands around the neck of another person is damn near never justified.  That aside, do those drum beaters understand the significance of escalation to the throat of the victim? Ignoring that, kids blow up is beyond disproportionate to the cause of his rage.  And no, rage is not an understatement in a choking situation.

Kid clearly doesn't have a grip and dad should be extremely concerned about that.  He's not.  His actions prove that.

There are posts on this site that I shake my head at but some of these responses? WTAF?  Gross, people.  

@OP - you need to speak to the police if for nothing more than starting a paper trail.  Please do not let the he said she said or victim shaming trope discourage you.  You. Were. Not. Wrong.  You will not be the one to decide whether or not charges are pressed.  Resources available to victims of domestic violence will be able to offer guidance on next steps including restraining orders, securing a safe space and navigating the court system should the state decide to pursue charges or even if they don't.  There's also a chance to get this kid help in all of this which clearly his father has failed to do.  

It is not your fault skid put his hands on you.  Don't believe anyone who would suggest otherwise.  

TwoOfUs's picture

Amen. 

Suggesting that it's in any way her fault is asolute rubbish. This kid should have been read the riot act and threatened within an inch of his life for what he did. Not taken out for nearly four hours to get him away from meanie SM. 

I know if any of us kids had ever tried to hurt our mom, our dad would have been on us so fast...

beebeel's picture

If you don't press charges and get this punk ass in the legal system now, some poor girl he beats on will. Please think about his next victim before you decide to do nothing.

And to the idiot who thinks the cops will care about a confiscated cell phone: police were called to my home for that very issue. The lovely female officer ripped my SD a new orifice for wasting department resources and for disrespecting her parents. So clearly, you don't live in reality.

shamds's picture

would basically get laughed at by the police for lodging a report of physical assault and that it won’t go anywhere.

its people like this that give a bad image on reporting domestic violence saying it won’t go anywhere and thats why plenty of people in domestic violence situations do not report. Except they are surprised when they report how the police assure them, advise of services such as shelters, support groups etc...

this stepmum is in a scary enough situation and she’s being blamed for putting herself in this situation instead of others supporting her. Disciplining this unstable abusive hot headed feral skid probably not the greatest idea but i doubt polie will laugh her report off and roll their eyes saying its a waste of time. 

There is supposed to be this code that real men don’t lay a hand on women. So we have 2 pussies here at home abusing women. Op husband is just as bad as his son for allowing and putting her in this situation.

op do you have family or close friends  nearby you can call to talk things through?? You need to have their support in this time.

Shananigans's picture

I have a great circle of friends!! I needed this blog from an outside perspective! I appreciate you all taking the time to “help” me! It’s becoming crystal clear what my next steps should be! 

shamds's picture

Please don’t put your bio kids in this situation. This skid’s bio parents have failed him. Your husband has failed you and will likely guilt trip you because he sees no blame in the continuing escalation of this.

your poor kids are living in this toxic environment where abuse and physical assault happens. Don’t ever allow this skid to be in a position where he does this to one of your kids and your husband still tries to cover his arse

your husband is in denial about his sons behaviour because it’s appalling for a parent to actively be raising an abuser in their home...

report the little shit and screw hubby, they not men at all, they’re bloody cowards...

my husbands exwifes family are batshit crazy, threatening to shoot and stab hubby to death and these were police officers. There will never be a day any of the exwifes family set foot in our marital home ever. The cops would be called immediately. I do not put me or my kids in a situation where my kids are left with my sd’s, they’re too brainwashed by their mum and there’s too many red flags. I distance myself and so should you.

its scary having to take this drastic step and police asking alot of questions which may be very traumatic, remember they’re there to help protect you from scum like this. don’t be scared of reporting him, he needs to be in the system

i highly doubt a judge or magistrate will blow off a court case when there are multiple reports of abuse from him and daddy dearest saying “no she’s the aggressor and was asking for it”. Any sane person will see there is a problem here and its the kid

for those claiming taking the phone is theft and child abuse.... geez 

i grew up with an asian mum and if there are any asians here, they can attest to how strict and disciplinary they were and no way would a teenager dare to chokehold a stepparent or family member in their home... all because a parent or authoritative figure confiscated their bloody phone... if kid threatened to call the cops “go for it”

BethAnne's picture

Sometimes you have to call the police to get your other half to realize how bad the situation is. (I did it on BM and it changed my husband's attitude). Remember that just because you call does not mean you have to press charges but it may give your husband a kick up the backside that something is seriously wrong and he needs to keep his kid away from you and adress the boy's behavior properly. 

If your husband continues to take his son's word against yours then I would continue to report any more physical acts of violence and move out (or get them to move out depending on whoes place it is, talk to a lawyer if it is joint property). You deserve to feel safe in your own home. 

advice.only2's picture

Let's reverse this whole situation and then see what all the posters spouting off about the OP being in the wrong have to say.

Sounds to me like the one's protesting so much that the OP is to blame are "those parents" the ones whose special snowflake can never do any wrong and it's somebody else's fault that their precious snowflake got in trouble.

STaround's picture

took away my DDs phone that I pay for, he would be in deep doo doo.  He does NOT have the right to do that.  Only I od.  It is not about a kid doing no wrong, it is about ME being the parent and having parental rights.

beebeel's picture

Your right to fail to parent a disrespectful shitbird however you see fit ends when you marry someone wth different parenting values. If you want to raise an abusive asshole, do the world a favor and move to a deserted island where they can't assault people.

advice.only2's picture

I was referring to flipping the situation to the adult abusing the child.
Sad to hear you don't allow your DH to be the adult in his own home.

shamds's picture

cod has been so wronged, they’ve lived a hard life and its not their fault. Their unacceptable actions are excused, justified with the most pathetic excuses that they are beyond ridiculous. 

This was my husband, know what i did, i referred to his then 20 yr old son as “princess drama queen with imaginary stress syndrome” and told my husband to grow up. Whenever he justified ss behaviour that he had a tough life, i told hubby a tough life is not living for free abd pampered by daddy with no responsibilities. A tough life is caring for sick parents in old age, juggling fulltime university studies with full time work and struggling to pay bills but trying to do the best you can with all those responsibilities while others get to take it easy.... i told my husband to grow up and stop being an idiot, only then did it hit him how embarrassing this was for him.

my in laws actually laugh at skids because they’re so pathetic and such negative appalling behaviours. There is never an excuse to justify physical assault ever...

Shananigans's picture

I appreciate you all so much. Even the ones trying to blame me! Let me be clear....the ONLY thing I did wrong in this situation was not defending myself!! I froze....pathetic! It’s a child...I didn’t want to engage physically. I was ATTACKED from behind, it WON’T happen again! 

STaround's picture

If you are not willing to file for divorce, then you need counseling.  you need to accept that if DH does not want you to disciplan the kid, you need to step back.  If it doesnt work for you, you need to get divorced.

elkclan's picture

Freeze is definitely one of the reactions that often happens. Do not feel bad about this, it's a natural reaction.  In this case, your freeze response may have protected you LEGALLY. Don't be getting into a fighting match with a 16 yo. Never lay hands on someone else's minor child.

Whether or not the initial phone incident was handled in the best possible way really doesn't matter anymore. Your SS had zero right to puts hands on you at all and please don't discount the seriousness of the hands around your throat. It's not a slap of frustration (also not ok), it's an act of rage and hatred. I would also hesitate to call the cops, but that doesn't mean it's not the right thing to do. Calling the cops is probably the right thing to do. 

You need to protect yourself and your blood children from a violent household and that will probably - at the very least - mean a period of lengthy separation. Particularly if SS has no place else to go other than with dad. 

 

Kes's picture

Shenanigans - I haven't read every post in this thread - there are so many!  But speaking as a woman who suffered emotional abuse in her first marriage - I hate to hear of any woman being subjected to physical or mental abuse and I hope that you take the necessary steps to ensure that this young man NEVER lays hands on you again.  No matter what "provocation" there is never any excuse for physical violence - and your DH condoned it.  Really, my dear, get yourself out of this toxic situation.  

Shananigans's picture

Husband has sent the SS to Grandpas house, who is NOT happy about the situation. He is also getting him the counseling that he has needed for MANY years, I’ve advised that so many times!  He is not allowed ANY privileges, including driving Papa around. I respect my Father in Law SO very much! I don’t know that this is the best move, but time will tell. SS also looks up to Papa very much and respects his advise more than most. I can’t forgive this time and I know that! I really do love my husband and all of the children which makes this a very hard decision for me! (I think many of you can understand this)  

I appreciate you all so very much, I needed to hear most of this! 

Aniki-Moderator's picture

IMO, I advise that YOU keep your distance from SS. NEVER be alone with him until he is well underway with therapy and has proven that he is trustworthy. This young man has been angry for years and it may be years before YOU are safe.

justmakingthebest's picture

While it is good that grandpa has him now, it isn't enough. All this information should mean to you is now you know the address to send the police to. 

Please press charges. Think of all the women after you that he will do this and more to if you won't think about yourself. Think about MY daughter who is out in the world with guys like this.

ESMOD's picture

I think this is definitely an area that it may be hard to press charges since there were no witnesses.. and the closest other party is possibly siding with the SS.  this doesn't make it right... and if OP has bruises/marks.. that COULD bolster her case with police.

It seems that either way.. she may need to leave the relationship because it's clear her husband is not going to protect her and in fact will protect her abuser.

caligirl510's picture

this child the dad is enabling him to became an agressor, and abuse women in the future domestic violence maybe even murderer that's how they start call the police

Bex_S's picture

Make it clear to your DH, skid goes, or you do. You deserve a basic modicum of respect in your own home, and certainly don't deserve to be assaulted by some ungrateful brat skid. If it happens again, call the police. If his father won't straighten him out, then maybe the legal system will.