You are here

Trying to find common ground with my wife regarding her adult children

reallydidntseethiscoming's picture

My wife and I were married 14 years ago.  She had 5 daughters and I had 2 daughters, so I was pretty much outnumbered.  They were aged from 17 to 24, so all of them were very close to being adults at the time we were married

Both of my daughters left for college, graduated, got married, moved out and are currently doing well.  They come to visit once or twice a year.  They have both purchased homes and the oldest will be having her first baby this year which will turn me into a grandpa. They did all of this with no help from my wife or I.  They have even paid off their student loans at this point.  Which brings me to the reason I have written this.

My wife's daughters stayed at the house after we were married.  They would fall in love, get married, have babies and then get divorced.  While they move out for a while, they always come back, and always with more kids.  None of them receive any kind of child support as they have had a difficult time proving who the actual father is.  We have tried to support them and help try to get them on their feet.  Between paying rent, paying electric, purchasing cars and paying fines, we have spent tens of thousands of dollars trying to help them, yet they remain unable to take care of themselves and their family.  Last year, one daughter dropped off her four children and told us she just couldn't do it anymore.  This isn't the first time she has done this, but it's definitely for the longest amount of time.  We have been raising them for the last year and there is no sign anything will change soon.

On top of this, my wife quit working about 5 years ago.  She was having trouble keeping a job as her children were always in some sort of situation that she needed to help with.   She pretty much enables them to continue making bad choices by dealing with the consequences herself. 

All of this has driven a wedge between me and my wife.  She refuses to say no to her kids and let them work out their own problems.  Rather than face the reality that she is enabling them, she blames all the problems on me.  She says I am selfish with my income and should be sharing it with her.  She is ok with falling behind on bills, as long as her kids are ok.  Every bill we have is in my name now because her credit became so bad trying to take care of her kids.  Now we are raising her grandchildren who are basically learning that if something is too hard, abandoned it and someone else will do it for you.

I am sorry for the rant.  I just don't know what to do anymore.  I feel that I am nothing more than a resource to take care of a family that is not mine.  I know some will say that marriage means that there is no 'yours' or 'mine' and that everything becomes 'ours', but when one side is completely focused on giving what is 'ours' to only her side of the family, it just doesn't work anymore.  Does anyone believe there is hope for this?  I have tried everything from being tough and saying no to giving in and saying yes.  It is never enough and it never helps.  It just delays the inevitable, which is her kids asking for more help.

Comments

justmakingthebest's picture

My DH and I have separate accounts. This has always worked for us. We are each responsible for our own parts of our household expenses and we divide things fairly equally. 

I will say that in your shoes, I would lay it out for DW like this:

"DW, I am no longer comfortable with our financial situation. I am going move my finances over to XYZ bank and leave our joint account where it is currently.  I will put $X per week in that account for your discretion. The rest will be used to make sure that our home and household bills are paid on time out of my account. I am also going to separate our credit cards. I know that you love your kids and I do not fault you for that, your caring heart is one of the reasons that I love you so much. 

However, as our children are now all adults, we need to focus on our future and our retirement. I refuse to work until I am 75 because our adult children cannot get their acts together. This is the only option that I can see to keep us financially protected."

Now- DW will throw a fit, even threaten divorce possibly. It doesn't matter if you want to have financial stability in your life. You have to be strong and put your foot down here and now. 

 

tog redux's picture

Wow, you are nice! I'd say, "I'm splitting accounts and I will pay my share of the bills - 1/5. You'd better get a job quickly, because you will be paying 4/5 - for your 4 grandkids you are allowing to live here, and yourself."

This woman needs to get a job. Why are you supporting a grown woman, OP? And why are you agreeing to let her raise FOUR grandkids on your dime? 

ETA: Bad math - OP, you pay 1/6 of the bills, and she pays 5/6.  

justmakingthebest's picture

I figured he could start with baby steps! In a couple of months drop the bombshell that she will need to pull her and her kids weight from now one. 

lieutenant_dad's picture

Stop enabling your wife. The only reason she can bail out her kids is because you bail her out. She's not being an equal partner, and her kids had to learn their manipulative, conning BS from somewhere.

You seem like a good man, so find yourself a good woman who will APPRECIATE the work and income you bring in, not just expect to be kept.

If you want to look at this practically, you need to eventually retire, and staying with your wife won't allow that. I've watched a very good family friend have to continue working well past when he should, and it caused him to literally get someone killed because he had no business doing the job he was doing. But, when your wife spends your money and doesn't care if you're on the street, it's hard to not work. 

So protect yourself because no one else in your life, and ENJOY the time you have with your family, not enabling hers.

beebeel's picture

How many different fathers do your stepdaughter have, if I may ask? Are they simply following along in mom's footsteps? It's common for poverty + lots of kids to be generational. And if your wife is still this irresponsible, her daughter's are just as unlikely to improve. They learned this behavior from her.

Your wife is the selfish one, plus she's manipulative and using you. A marriage is a partnership and your wife isn't holding up her end. 

I normally recommend marriage counseling before divorce, but I have a hunch your wife needs years of individual counseling and a shit ton of work on herself before she's even dating material.

Merry's picture

Looks like you have hard choices to make. Either you continue to enable the enabler and nothing changes, you can never retire, and your resentment grows. Or you figure out a household budget that takes into account all expenses including retirement planning for you and your wife (excluding support for grown children). Since all bills are in your name, do not allow her access to any funds except for an allowance, and make sure those bills get paid in full and on time.

She'll no doubt be angry, so prepare for that.

I'm sorry you're in this situation. I couldn't live like that.

Exjuliemccoy's picture

You are being used as an ATM and not treated as a cherished life partner. It's clear that your wife thinks she's got you right where she wants you and doesn't have much respect for you.

You need to talk to a divorce attorney ASAP to gain clarity and help formulate a strategy. Depending on the state you're living in, you could be looking at paying alimony.

Tell your wife she needs to get a job immediately. Then, cut off her access to your money. Close all bank accounts, and reopen ones in a different bank in only your name. Remove your wife as an authorized user on all credit cards and utilities, change all your passwords, etc. Reroute all mail to a drop box. Next, suspend luxuries like cell phone, cable tv, etc. Shock the He!! out of her, and tell her she starts pulling her weight NOW if she want to keep a roof over her head. Tell her you're done with the dysfunction, the house is going up for sale as you'll be downsizing (can't house freeloaders if there's no room, right?) so she needs to get her act together.

Your wife will shape up and start handling her business, or she won't and you'll know it's time to pull the plug on this farce of a marriage. Either way, you need to protect yourself and stop allowing her baggage to impact your home and your life.

notarelative's picture

 None of them receive any kind of child support as they have had a difficult time proving who the actual father is.  

If you were not supporting them and they applied for state aid, they would be asked to make the suspected fathers and the state would compel a DNA test. Unless they were picking up guys in a drunken haze, they have a good idea of who the father is. DNA tests do the rest.

As to the four dropped off kids, wife and you have no legal rights. What happens when these kids need to see the doctor? You can't even legally sign a report card. Call children's service and report them as abandoned. Get  legal guardianship or a foster designation. In many states there are kinship care services you can access and medical.

There is no common ground. There is only what you are willing to tolerate.