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Worried...we may be going to court soon.

Nymh's picture

BF told me some bad news today. He got another letter from the state board of child support enforcement today. Apparently he may be taken to court soon for contempt over the child support situation. They told him that he may receive a summons in the mail or a deputy may be by soon with papers. I don't understand...we're paying as fast as we can, even paying twice in one month sometimes just to try to catch up. He called the state and they told him that he can try to appeal and get the hearing waived...Ugh. I'm worried. This is so stupid. What do we do now? What happens if he gets taken to court? They're probably going to tell him to pay it all in full and we just don't have the money. We could take out a loan to pay it but we can't afford the extra payment every month. Are they going to arrest him if he can't pay it all at once? This, just like everything else, is so unneccessary and ridiculous. What do we do?

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lovin-life's picture

Try not to worry over something you have no control over.

I'm kindof in the same boat with my X...waiting for a court summons...can't afford a lawyer. How will I pay for one...etc

So that's the attitude I've adopted...it works for 95 % of the day..then I start to stress-out again..then I remind myself that I have no control over it...so don't let it control me..or ruin my day, or my Holidays...

Whatever happens will be dealt with when it comes then will be put behind me..and my life moves forward...

Anne 8102's picture

Not sure what state you are in, Nymh, but I would bet that if he is making an honest effort to repay any arrears, along with the regular payments, then they would likely work with him on a payment plan to get back on track. Jail would likely be a last ditch effort they would resort to if he were paying NOTHING. If he's paying the current amount, plus extra to get caught up, then I would think it's unlikely he'll get arrested. (Not unheard of, just unlikely, I would guess. After all, jail = unable to work = no paycheck = no support at all. They would try other measures to get the money before putting him in lock-up.)

I would file whatever paperwork is required in your state to get an appeal and to try to have this hearing waived, if he does get served with papers. Make sure you include documentation to show that regular support is being paid and that extra payments are being made towards the arrears. It would probably help to include what the plan is to pay off the arrears, as well. If he can prove that he's making the regular payments faithfully and is making a good faith effort to meet his obligation towards catching up on arrears, they will likely work with him.

Also, could this be a computer-generated thing that gets spit out regardless of whatever payments are being made? The reason I ask is that my husband's CS is payable on the first of every month, considered "late" if not received on or by the 15th of the month and is considered "missed" if not received by the first of the next month. He gets paid on the 15th and the 30th of every month, so we pay our house payment on the 1st and the CS on the 15th. I pay the CS online through the child support enforcement website on the 15th of every month like clockwork. However, there is a computer-generated "threat" letter that automatically is sent out by the CSE system on the 15th. It's on an official court form titled, "NOTICE OF DELINQUENCY."

That letter and the CS payment always are sent out on the same day, they always happen at the same time and sort of cancel each other out. The first time we got the notice and called CSE, we were freaked out and panicking because we were afraid that meant more court proceedings to deal with, especially because the person at CSE told us that a summons would likely follow. We calmed down, read the notice, read over info on the CSE website and called back and spoke to someone with some authority, not just whatever peon answered the phone. We were told that the notice was a computer-generated notice that automatically is triggered when the electronic system doesn't recognize a payment as having been made by the 15th of each month. As long as the payment is received by the end of the month, there's no problem. We went on to explain that the CS comes out of the 15th paycheck and will always be paid on the 15th and that our cour order even states that it will be paid on the 15th. They told us that because the notices were computer-generated, they would continue to come if payment was not received BEFORE the 15th, but that as long as the payments were being made by the end of the month, to just ignore them. So that's what we do. The North Carolina Division of Child Support Enforcement wastes I don't even know how much money sending us a monthly notice to tell us the child support is late, even though it is paid on the exact date it is due. Go figure. We've been getting these stupid little notices for years, all because no one will go into the system and change our due date from the 1st to the 15th. Morons.

Before you freak out completely, take a deep breath and do a little more information-gathering. Call and get the facts from someone who really knows what they are talking about within CSE. It might be nothing, or it might be something that can be taken care of without a lot of agony. But please try not to stress out too much. They will garnish his wages or income tax refund before they do anything as drastic as arresting him and if they do try to garnish his wages, you can always request an appeal on that, which will likely have to be settled before they can actually take the money out of his check.

It really sucks that this happens the week before Christmas. I hate grinches.

~ Anne ~

Nymh's picture

The reason we are so freaked out about this is because my BF is a small business owner. He doesn't have any wages to garnish. He doesn't have an income tax return for them to claim. I really don't know what they could do short of arresting him...in the divorce they set out a payment plan to work on the arrears, so he's already paying $100 extra every month toward that. I don't understand what else he can do...

*~So sayeth Nymh~*

Anne 8102's picture

Well, hang in there. Definitely find out what the deal is with CSE and provide them with the documentation that he's doing what he's supposed to be doing. Maybe it is just an oversight or a computer-generated thing, like with us. The thing with the CSE computer system in our state was that it's sort of a "blind" system... as far as what is owed, it only sees the amount of the regular support payment, plus whatever the arrears amount is. The system is not equipped to see the payment arrangements made in court to take care of the arrears or anything like that, so it will only see that there's an outstanding amount. Maybe the same is true of your state. As long as he is doing what the court records say he has to do, then I think he'll probably be okay. It sounds like there's some kind of foul up where maybe whatever CSE has on file for him doesn't match up with what was agreed on in the court documents. Hopefully, it will be as simple as providing the proper documentation. Try to get a good night's sleep, call them in the morning and see what can be worked out. If he's doing what he's supposed to be doing, he won't be arrested.

~ Anne ~

Nymh's picture

It's hard to be optimistic about this when we know nothing about it and have never had to deal with it before. I really hate it especially because we're doing everything we can to take care of things and keep getting things like this which set us back. I'm trying really hard not to blame this all on BM or to let her be the object of my frustration but it honestly wouldn't be a problem if she hadn't needlessly filed to get the CS turned over to the state...*sigh* But all we can do is soldier on and keep doing the best we can. Thanks for your advice and support.

*~So sayeth Nymh~*