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Step families ARE still familes....

ineedadragonlance's picture

I guess I look at things a bit differently than alot of people on here. In my thinking, step families are still families and should be treated as such.

I spent 20 years married to a man with 2 boys. I had a son and a daughter. We raised them in a household that didn't make a difference if I was a step mom or he was a step dad. We were a family and in such it was treated that way.

Everyone pulled their weight. Step kids had chores on the weekend visits just as if they lived there. It was their home even if only on the weekends.

If they got in trouble it was no problem for me to correct them or take care of the situation. Same for my kids. He corrected them as if they were his own. If spanking were needed then it didn't matter who did it. Yes they were spanked but they learned so it didn't happen often.

There were never any insinuation that the other parent couldn't do something because it wasn't their kid. All were treated equal.

I took his kids everywhere just as I did my own. It was part of parenting. Yes there were long days at football and baseball practice and tons of Boy Scout ventures that I wish I wasn't a part of but again that was all part of being a parent. Didn't matter to which kid.

I picked his kids up and dropped them off pretty regularly because if he was at work then he couldn't. In my eyes it was my job as a parent. I took on that responsibility when I married him.

The way I look at it is that if someone marries someone with children then they marry that responsibility as well. You know going into a relationship that the other person has kids. Own up to it and accept it or don't do it. You must allow the other person to parent your kids or it will destroy your relationship. You can't just step back from the situation and ignore.

My Mom made the comment to me when I first married that she better not hear of my husband laying a hand on her grand kids. First and foremost, they were not her kids so what she thought didn't matter. Second, did she think I would stand around and allow someone to beat my kids? Third, if I was going to marry this man and allow him to work and provide for me and my kids then of course he was going to be allowed to help raise them. Same went for me.

Both my ex and his ex were in the children's lives daily and for the most part we all had a happy life.

We never had many issues with the children. When they became teenagers is when things got a bit different but that happens in all household with kids. Teenagers are difficult. It is what it is. That does not mean that they should be allowed to get away with anything.

I read so much on here about problems with step kids. A good majority are with teenage step kids. In most cases the problem isn't because it is a step kid it is because it is a teenager. They are lazy, disrespectful, nasty, etc. That is a teen age thing no matter who the parent is. If you have kids you are gonna deal with that sooner or later. I wonder sometimes what the other bio parent in some of these cases may be thinking about their step kids. We don't get to hear from them and I'm willing to be they feel the same in most instances. Kids grow past this in most cases but they need the help of parents. Don't make a big deal out of who their parent really is just be there and do what a parent should. If they don't grow out of it then wipe your hands, pat yourself on the back cause you did what you could and just let go.

People as parents need to put their foot down and parent the child and not let the child be the parent. In so many instances all I see is people letting children be the boss. That is not the way it should be. Kids know this and push limits. They do because they want the parent to be the parent. I know that sounds weird but its how I feel. I see to many parents now days just allowing children to do/say/act however they want. Fire that butt up a couple times and see how quick it stops. I am not telling anyone to beat their child so don't think that but I also know that standing in a corner doesn't help.

I had a step parent and he treated me and my brother well however my step siblings didn't do anything when they visited which wasn't often and from a kids point of view, that wasn't fair. I also had to stand back when their grandmother would make a brief visit. She would bring candy and gum but it was only enough for them. She gave it to them in front of us. That was wrong on so many levels. It also hurt. I felt I wasn't important. My Mom on the other hand was also wrong cause she always showed a difference in us her bio kids and the step kids. It was wrong of her to do that and even as a kid I saw that. She does that still with my step children and also with my step grandson. Pisses me off to no end. They are family. They may be step family and were made with different people but they are now my family so I want them to be treated that way.

By no means is my family perfect. We have our issues but the way children are raised by most now a days just gripes my butt. Kids get away with to much. Are given to much. Not made to work/earn things. Allowed to spend to much time on the phone/video games/tv. Parents allow this then wonder what went wrong.

And I have to ask.... Do so many kids really need therapy? I'm sure some do but mostly I don't think so. My opinion is that it is mostly just more coddling so as to not hurt their little feelings cause its not like life is happening and they have to grow up and accept it or something. Give them some hard work to do to earn their way and they won't have time to think about "poor pitiful me". We are raising a bunch of pansy kids for the most part and its wrong. We need to raise strong self dependent adults.

I know this is a long vent and for that I am sorry. I'm taking my pain meds today and they have mellowed me out to the point I just wanted this off my mind.

I'm no longer married to that husband but we raised 4 kids together that became hard working adults and parents to which I am grateful but I still think it is because of how we raised them. And I do have some issues with his kids which have cause serious issues later in our marriage but that is for another story. Mine aren't perfect either but my point is they were raised as family not stepfamily.

Well by now I guess I have ticked some people off pretty well and that was not my intention. Guess this is just my rant for the day. No meds for me tomorrow!

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Generic's picture

It sounds like your DH has got it going on!

What do you want to say to the women who blame all their problems on their skids, but put their man on a pedestal? Thats all I see here is misplaced anger. Is it because if they looked at the man, it throws a bit of responsibility back to oneself? How many times do we hear "My man treats me like Gold. He's my soul mate. The love of my life. Everything would be perfect if not for skids" Really? A marriage that only has one problem? That right there tells me that the poster is not being realistic.

How can someone just love love love a man who continuously throws them under the bus? He would rather offer his wife as a blood sacrifice to his hateful children than own up or man up. Hiding behind one's wife is about the unsexiest thing a man can do. Blech!

ineedadragonlance's picture

I'm not sure if this comment is directed at me or not. My exDH did't have it going on. We had our issues, we just never did that 'my kid your kid' thing.

I totally agree with you generic on what you are saying. I see the same thing. Men or women for that matter should not be put on a pedestal. No one is that special I don't care who you are.

I guess my rant got started because I too read alot that I believe is misplaced anger. Everything is the skids fault. Everything is not the skids fault nor is it the BM's fault. I have a BM that I dislike greatly but she won't ever have any control of how things are handled in my house. She can do what she likes in her house but it stops at my door. My rules are then set. Kids know the difference. They know which buttons to push. With that being said, the spouse needs to parent the child just as the step parent does.

"How can someone just love love love a man who continuously throws them under the bus? He would rather offer his wife as a blood sacrifice to his hateful children than own up or man up. Hiding behind one's wife is about the unsexiest thing a man can do. Blech!"

This is totally true! I don't get it! How does one keep professing their love for another while they get walked all over? How does one go into a relationship knowing they don't like their future spouses children? Do they think that will change? Doubtful. I think alot of the time it ends up being alot of jealousy as well as other issues. They don't like that the boyfriend has a child with someone else, they don't like that they pay child suport, etc. That won't change. It happened and they had kids and maybe one day he may have to have them move in. That all needs to be considered before a marriage and not after.
My step daughter looks just like her Mother. That isn't her fault but I don't dislike her for it.

ineedadragonlance's picture

I am by no means clueless. Trust me. I've never lived a Brady Bunch life. My experience may have been different from many others and it might not be as bad as most here but it wasn't a cake walk either, but the point I was trying to make is that when people get married and they already have children then they should agree to parent together and not make differences. In my opinion that makes things harder.

When a wife or a husband tells the other that they cannot correct a child cause it isn't their child it is just one of many things that causes this problem to happen. The child knows it as well. If he knows a Mom will flip her lid if step Dad tells him to wash the dishes or no video games then he is more likely to act out. You create a partnership when you get married so you have to act accordingly.

And yes in a wonderful world, the bio parent would be on board but how often does that really happen? Most likely they do what they do because they know it causes problems. In some cases it is deliberate because they don't want the other parent to be happy. All we can do is control what goes on in our households.

Yes it is hard for any step parent and I am far from super duper but my opinion is that in your home you should be a family. You don't have to have the bio parent on board with you to create a family. A child knows the difference and they all want to be loved.

farting_glitter's picture

*raises hand*..I AM one of those 100 people that will disagree with you OP....

furkidsforme's picture

OK. DH and I talked for months about marrying, and agreed we would raise his kids "together". Until we married and I moved in and he undermined me at every turn and gave me no authority.

Then what? Since you say it's so easy.

ineedadragonlance's picture

taushlove you seem to understand what I was trying to say. I wasn't putting people's problems to the side like some seem to think. I just believe things can be different in most instances and your relationship seems to be one of them. I was using my relationship as my viewpoint and not how I think everyone's should be.

Most Evil's picture

I thought being a stepmom would be like you describe, but it wasn't. But it should be.!

ineedadragonlance's picture

Your right, it should be but that is not always the case. I was just reflecting on how we handled it and how it turned out.

That was a good thing and we were fortunate and it doesn't always happen that way. My children's Dad was a Disney Dad and always giving to them. Ticked me off to no end. Made my job harder in the end but they did know what they could get away with at his house that wasn't allowed in ours.

We just have to know that we have no control in the other households and expect respect in ours. Both from step children and the parent we live with.

ineedadragonlance's picture

Your right. I haven't walked in those shoes and I'm sorry that some have.
I was not judging anyone. It was not my intention.

I have read the stories and they are bad and I know it is hard.

I was merely bringing up that step families are families and everyone should be treated the same. It is my opinion. I just seem to read alot that insinuates that step children are outsiders, they are treated differently. Each situation is different. Alot of spouses don't allow the step parent to parent. Alot of step parents don't want to parent but to me that is all just a part of merging a family.

We have no control over bio parents in other households. Yes they make life miserable and there isn't much we can do about that.

I'm not Carol Brady by any means. Got my own set of problems like everyone else.

ineedadragonlance's picture

Point taken. Again it was not my intention to offend. I know people have to disengage at times. Each situation is different.

We too have PASing going on to a certain extent. We have a crazy BM to deal with. Don't think she is crazy but she just acts that way.

I'm not sure that my post was fully understand and that's fine. It's my fault that I didn't write it for better understanding.

farting_glitter's picture

I do agree with you on what you said about therapy though....I just blogged about this the other day as well...

moeilijk's picture

I think most 'blended' families do ok. It's when you start adding in random stress factors that create some of the extremes that drive people to this site.

Very few of the posters here started out NOT wanting to be a family. Most of them are hurt that their love and effort didn't get them the family life they wanted.

It's really common to 'normalize' the crazy, to make it fit into our own worldview, even when it's completely insane. What you (the OP) would most likely do differently than the posters here when dealing with the crazy is leave the relationship completely.

By crazy I mean:
- your telephone, electricity and gas cut off by the BM pretending to be you
- having to lock your food up so that the skid doesn't eat EVERYTHING up at night while you're sleeping
- having to lock your valuables up so that skid doesn't steal them
- having to call the police because underage skid has brought men met on the internet home for sex, and you fear for the safety of your toddlers
- having to deal with husband who doesn't think any of the above is strange

AlreadyGone's picture

Hmmm.... not sure how I feel about this topic. On the one hand, I would like to agree that in a perfect world, Step-Families ARE still families. However, add human emotion and perception, then we're talking a whole different ball game. It would be nice to wrap it all up in a nice little bow but, not doable in many circumstances. Obviously you've read many of the stories here, and should know that most Steps try harder than bios do to make this step-situation work. How much is one person supposed to sacrifice? Because largely, the one person who has the least control, shoulders the lion's share of the blame when things don't fit in to that tidy little box. Just sayin'.

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twopines's picture

>>>when people get married and they already have children then they should agree to parent together and not make differences.<<<

There is a difference, especially if there is a large age difference in the kids.

>>>You must allow the other person to parent your kids or it will destroy your relationship.<<<

Disagree. My mother and stepdad didn't parent each other's kids. They are celebrating their 25th wedding anniversary next month. I'm thinking they are not destroyed.

What works for you does not work for everyone. I've known my stepbrothers almost my entire life, but if my stepdad died tomorrow I most likely wouldn't see them again. They probably feel the same way. We all get along great, but our dynamic is not "family". It's OK, really.

Pilgrim Soul's picture

I envy you, tausha, and i envy the OP. I had something like that, not quite, in my first marriage, where i also had skids, but no kids of my own. Then my then husband and I had two boys. In that family we had healthy individuals involved ( incl. BM1, who i actually even miss these days when i have to deal with the crazy NPD BM2) and things worked out fine.

In the absence of mental health things do not go as planned.

luchay's picture

I have just sent a copy of this entire thread to my OH.

I agree with the OP - that is how it SHOULD work, and I think the majority of the step-parents on here start their marriages/relationships aiming for these lofty ideals, unfortunately it doesn't always work out for us.

My OH falls into the category of having promised me the ideal, the picture perfect brady family life where we would both parent, and there would rules and standards and expectations and consequences.

Throw in BM going nutso when we moved in together and PAS, and the fear from him of losing his kids, of them hating him - ss said this a few too many times in the early stages and refused to visit because he didn't like the new world order where there were vegetables, and sit down at the table meals (with cutlery and all) and where dessert wasn't just handed over when you fancied it regardless, where you had to make your own bed, and be polite and respectful, and hell even close the toilet door when you pee so your 6yo Step sister doesn't have to see your fucking penis (as I repeatedly pointed out to OH - making him close the door is NOT stifling his personality, and WHAT exactly did he think would happen if miss6 went to her daddy and told him in all innocence that ss shows her his willy all the time????) And then we add in SD - lying stealing and manipulating because she wants her daddy back all to herself....

And OH is so scared of losing them altogether that he has handed over his balls to the three of them, and I am left with a very fractured dream family.

So, sent him the thread, told him it was an interesting convo and I would like his opinions about it.

We will see what kind of outcome that gets me.

omgsaveme's picture

Ya in a perfect world all these blended families would work out perfectly. My SD was an adult when I met her, I didn't raise her, and my DH hadn't ever really parented her at all he was friend and her mother had never really raised her either. I would give a tad more credit to SD if she was a child and I had a hand in raising her. She was already the finished product when I met her, who my DH had referenced as an Independent, intelligent, motivated adult, great mother, what I met was a bad absent parent, extremely dependent, unemployed, entitled person who viewed everyone as either her ATM or servant and wasn't thankful of it at all.

I tried to like her, we got along OK in the beginning and I bit my tongue, the more I got to know her the more I was disgusted. I do not view her as my family, I view her as DHs daughter. I have done nice things for her, and every time I have regretted it. I am more neutral to her now, while I would never discourage my DH from visiting her, as she is his daughter, I don't want to be around her, she is toxic and full of drama. I love my DH, he is not perfect, but he is an incredible man.

Cocoa's picture

yet, in the end:

"And I do have some issues with his kids which have cause serious issues later in our marriage but that is for another story. Mine aren't perfect either but my point is they were raised as family not stepfamily."

it STILL didn't matter.

ineedadragonlance's picture

Yep in the end there were problems. No one can see the future and see whether their hard work would turn out right or not. Does it mean that I should have did differently by them when they were growing up knowing how it would turn out after they were adults? No.

Cocoa's picture

no, I think you are commendable in doing what you've done. I couldn't have done it. i'm too tired to take such a risk. it's a crap shoot with your OWN children, let alone someone elses'. i really believe women who marry men with kids should support their dh, and leave the parenting to the parents. she should concentrate on her marriage, her children, her life (after all, that's what marriage is about) and will eliminate (as much as possible) all those wasted years that she could have been making life better for her family. way too many stories on here that show what the outcome is otherwise, and your situation shows yet again. it was a VERY good try, though.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

Your situation only works if your partner treats you as an equal. Many of the women here don't have that luxury. It doesn't offend me because your situation would be what I hope my situation could be like. A family with no favoritisms, everyone pulls their weight, and no emotional manipulation going on.

My DH is extremely supportive and on board with me, so I have great hope we will have what you had. But many do not have DH's who are on board, and so your ideal could not apply to them.

It doesn't offend me but please understand that many don't have the luxury of a true partner as you did.

ineedadragonlance's picture

Let me correct myself here and say that in the grand scheme of things, step families should be families too.

All families are different and all bring something new to the table. My comment wasn't so much about crazy BMs that don't parent when they should or crazy BMs who stalk and PAS their children. This happens and it is both sad and wrong. I don't understand why they do what they do nor do I know how to fix it. Wish I could.

I can spend all day on this and some will still not understand that I didn't mean to offend anyone nor did I mean to tie step families up in a little ribbon and pretend that everything is happy go lucky. I didn't forget that some have crazy bio parents that cause endless problems, stalk, drugs, sex with anyone,filthiness and just plain off the deep end.

I also didn't forget the issues that some kids have. Some have issues that I can't imagine dealing with however some are just lost kids. Their parents divorced and now have other people in their lives. They cope with this in different ways at different ages. I think age plays a big part in how things are handled. Can you stop PASing? Doubtful. Can you show a child that things are not the same in your home as they are used to or as they are told it is? Sure you can. Will it always work? Doubtful. Does it hurt to try? No. Do you sometimes have to give up? Yes. Somewhere in my post I did mention that sometimes you just have to let go.
I didn't reference getting married and acquiring grown step kids. That's a whole other thing. Not much anyone can do with that. Either they like you or they don't but you don't have to be around them. Wasn't my situation then so I didn't mention it.

My post was pointing out that we took on each others children when we married. We tried to not show a difference. Fortunately we didn't have to. However each child showed respect to each parent. Did it help that their other parents did their job as they should? Sure it did. Did we have a wonderful great life. No. I don't think anyone does. We had ups and downs and each child had their own set of problems.

My post was not about anyone's life. It wasn't even so much about my own as it was my reference point of what I was trying to discuss.

Teenagers are hard to deal with no matter who their parent is. Alot of post are about teenagers but my opinion was that in some cases but not all its not whether they are part of a step family or not. Bios kids do grow up and in some cases they are going to act just the way some step kids act. They will be teenagers. That was my point. I was not making light of anyone's situation.

Husband's that don't parent their kids are a pain in the ass. It makes them look weak. People on the outside looking in don't care the reason why they don't parent they just know that they don't. Everyone is not going to know everyone else's story. It puts it all on the step mom so I totally understand the step mom that walks away with her hands up and forces the other parent to do their job but it shouldn't have to come to that. My opinion was that in a lot of the cases, it wasn't the kids who caused the problems. It was the parent who wouldn't do their job. Hurt, anger, resentment and loathing are just some of the things that are caused by this and then everyone suffers and is miserable. Each situation is different.

Again it was my opinion based on my family and was not meant to belittle others.

Some one mentioned CS in a reply to my post. Someone else wanted to know how much my husband paid in CS and mentioned letting the games begin. I'm not sure what the person meant by letting games begin because we played no games. I don't know why the amount of CS was so important to someone but to clarify things, my husband paid at that time $300 per month. I received $300 per month for my kids. What can you do with $300 per month for 2 kids? Not much. Pay for lunch at school, a power bill maybe. If we saved then we took them to a movie every now and then. They had, a home, clothes, food, toys, education, etc. If they needed it then it was provided.

Generic's picture

It's like you were attacked for merely pointing out the ideal. Maybe they thought you were accusing them of never wanting, striving or doing the best they could to achieve that ideal. That would be the reason for defensiveness and I believe they misinterpreted your post's intent.