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Can you guys tell me what you'd do?

iluvcheese's picture

1. I could really use a laugh.
2. I'm legitimately curious.
What would you do if you found your husband had been keeping porn of his kids mother? There are various tapes. He's insistent he forgot they existed. I'm extremely skeptical a person, let alone a man, could forget about such a thing. I'm extremely hurt right now & I'm just curious how everyone else would feel about this.

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oneoffour's picture

Is he a forgetful guy? Is there a layer of dust on the tapes? Where are they stored? Does he ever watch them?

If my DH had tapes like that I would throw them out. I would just find a dumpster somewhere and throw them out. Then I would be pleasant but cool for a few weeks. My DH can be forgetful. Forgetting about amateur porn of his ex? Quite possible.

The only tapes my DH has from his marriage are recorded Christmas movies from TV in the 1980s. Apart from the deteriorating quality the ads in between are hilarious. Imagine a 385 computer!

iluvcheese's picture

He can be forgetful. I'm simply not buying that he forgot. He mentioned when we first started dating, that he had such things. Which whatever, but get rid of it before we live together. Certainly before we get married. We all do stuff in relationships. He's saying now he forgot. That's what's bothering. He remembered he had it then, he forgot he didn't get rid of it? & of course, we moved so I was going through consolidating & updating old stuff, so I saw it. I mean, how do I ever get this out of my head? It isn't like I didn't know he had sex with her, they have a kid. It's just, seeing it. Maybe I should just drop it to stay sane, at least not talk about it?

TwoOfUs's picture

Hmmm. My DH is really forgetful, too...so I might buy it. I don't just mean he conveniently "forgets" things he doesn't want to do or know about. He forgets good things about himself. He's forgotten his own birthday before...I could totally take advantage of him if I wanted to Smile

But, yeah...having those tapes in the first place might be too much for me. I don't know...why not suggest to him that you pop one in to get you in the mood next time you want some couple time? Does your DH have a good sense of humor? Can you laugh with him about this...or would that hurt his feelings?

iluvcheese's picture

Well he's already kind of flipped out on me about it. I was upset. The whole, "ugh what is this, why are you keeping this" routine. Let's just say, I've seen things I can't unsee. & of course I watched the entirety:/. He'd say no, I could just do it though. See how it makes him feel to be with me, with such images in his head. What if he's into it? I don't think I could deal with that! That's way too close to a threesome with his kids mom for me, I think.

CANYOUHELP's picture

I am fairly certain I would never forget that I made porn tapes with somebody, but anything is possible and everybody is different. It is just something I have never done, nor plan to do.

I would be pissed to the hilt to find these and know he kept them for any reason. Now, if I found out he had watched them recently, it would not be pretty at all....and, I would be very concerned as to" why."

Before I burned them I would be tempted to say honey you are not going to believe what I found in your ______ today and I just wanted to show you a little clip so you could tell me more about why you have this and why it is here in our home.

I would have to watch his reaction even if it embarrassed him, as surely you were humiliated when you viewed it and found it, unnecessarily.

It's not like he plans to pass this (these porn tapes) down to the children for memory sake, huh? Surely not.....

iluvcheese's picture

That's just it, I'd never forget I had them either. He even mentioned he had them when we first started dating, so he remembered ten year old tapes, but forgot he kept them. Right!

CANYOUHELP's picture

I agree, there is no excuse for "keeping" these at YOUR home! Tell him to set up the camera in the bedroom, you'd like to make a few and mail them to his children's mother for viewing, since they both are into self-made porn...LOL..He has kept these heirlooms ten years?

Yes, I would be pissed, you have every right to being angry now. I am sorry he is such a thoughtless, dumb ass!

I am certain the children would be excited to see them one day, after the wedding video--you could title it, "The honeymoon."

He would burn them with me present and witnessing-- and, probably as I cussed the whole time at him too (which I am certain other posters would find cruel), but this one would send me completely over the edge.

He really should have known better....Geeze, he is a real dumb ass. I try not to swear, but this is just crazy mess.

Indigo's picture

Maybe some part of his brain justified keeping the videos because he looked good in them. It was years ago. He was younger. He may have looked hot. Mild self-fascination which goes hand-in-hand with many folk who make couple porn.

Eewww. I'm thinking that most guys would systematically purge the house of reminders, clothing, scrapbooks ... all sorts of reminders of Ex. I'd also be wondering if Ex had a copy of the tapes. Were they every uploaded to an internet porn site. My mind would not quietly accept this "find" in the same manner as finding Ex's old Christmas stocking in the attic.

TwoOfUs's picture

Oh hell no.

Nevermind everything I previously said. I was assuming they were in a box in the basement or something.

I'm so sorry. I'd be out of there.

notasm3's picture

Keep the tapes and give them to the skid when he reaches adulthood. }:) }:) }:)

Because if he kept the tapes of the "Mother of his Children" he must have meant to pass them on to said children.

TwoOfUs's picture

Wish StepTalk had a "Like" button Smile

Great idea...but as weird as some of these CODs are...they'd probably like it a little too much.

CANYOUHELP's picture

These tapes will make great birthday and Christmas presents for the children...The memories will be priceless...just mind boggling.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

Is he super willing to burn and throw them away? I can tell you that if he can't wait to break them apart and chuck them, he may have forgot--if he's unwilling then there's a problem. Also, are they VHS? Because unless he has a vhs player stored around somewhere, he's not watching them.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

Nevermind, this is a stupid question. If you watched it then that would mean you guys do have something to see it.

Probably divorce and then upload to pornhub with the label "Man loses wife because he kept sex tape with ex"

robin333's picture

Okay, I just envisioned DH and BM on a porn tape. My mind has never gone there before. And I am certain that my over the moon sex drive is the basement now. So, I am pausing to get a glass of wine.

My DH is incredibly forgetful. Very intelligent but totally forgetful if it isn't significant or important to him.

There is no way that he would ever forget he made a video, owned a video or think that he could keep such a video in our home without risking mutilation.

Part of that might be that he's mainly "vanilla" but only partly. I think any man, regardless of kink level, is going to remember making a video.

If videos are the "norm" and he is forgetful about such videos, then wouldn't he have videos with other woman? Surely, you don't forget that it's in your desk.

Has he ever wanted to make a video with you? What does your gut say?

I am sorry that you watched the video in its entirety. I would not be able to get past that (and that might be a fault of mine). Knowing something intellectually is different than watching carnal reality.

mommadukes2015's picture

If they're VHS I'd chalk it up to forgetting.

I'm going to preface my next comment with this: I wrote my thesis in college on pornography and it's function in society. I've watched way more than the average human being. It phases me not at all-in any way shape or form.

If they're any other form of media I'd watch them just to drop hints to make him wonder if I found them. Then I would proceed with the mental torture by giving him full out shit-oh that's what really does it for you huh? I think her performance was sub-par in A B C...Then he'd watch all of them-with me standing right behind him. The next time he ever got any from me-he'd feel like a reborn virgin. Not because it was porn, but because it was BM porn.

Like I said-slightly I'm slightly twisted in this department and used to it. It is an incredibly fascinating thing to study though in terms of societal norms.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

LOL I LIKE THIS ONE.

Because the next time he even THINKS about watching it, he'll have to really sit through the mental cringe of him having watched it WITH YOU. That's an awesome punishment--operant conditioning at it's best.

And the mind games. Love it!

oneoffour's picture

OK so they were in his desk. At hand or buried?
Maybe the 'at hand' remark could be taken a different way... sorry Sad

The only things from BM-Daze my DH has is a few wedding photos ( in time he will pass them down to his sons)a dish towel (it drives me crazy but she let so few household items go with DH it has some kind of trophy status)and his old dining room set she asked if he wanted when she replaced it. Solid wood, leaved table. Hell yes! I know for a fact he never did the dirty with her on it si I have no problem taking it.

But this is different. It is more than personal. He would have to understand why I am upset. Point out to him that having seen those tapes means anytime you have sex all you will think of is him and BM copulating. Ask him if he would like to see you on film having sex with another man.

I like mommadukes idea though. Sit down and watch it with him. Pass comment. Point out when she is faking it. Tell him the lighting could have been better. And did she really think she looked hot because it looks like she is having a stroke. Then I would mentally torture him for a few weeks. Just because....

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

Point out every pimple and hair out of place. Me and DH err, tried making a video once--turned out mortifyingly hilarious so we deleted it. There's a reason why the professionals get their assholes bleached, the guys have shaved balls AND waxed taints (I uhh, once waxed a guy's taint out of curiosity--never knew they grew mustaches there), boobjobs, and many of the girls have had vaginoplasty (or is it called vulvaplasty?)

And the positions they actually have to get in for the angles? Not comfy at all.

mommadukes2015's picture

For me, it wouldn't be a matter of shaming anyone. It would be making a few points.

1.) It's not the BM porn I'd be threatened by. If that's what he wants-in any form-he knows where the door is. It's the fact that he couldn't own it. It would be the hiding, sneaking and utter disrespect of doing it behind my back-because BM porn is MUCH closer to home than any ol' porn-that would piss me off. Putting it in front of him to process will do 2 things:
a. If it was that easily accessible and OP feels like he's been watching it-he won't be able to just say "I forgot" and continue to disrespect her by trying to sweep it under the rug and gaslight her into thinking it's her that's got the problem.
b. When you make a collassal mis-judgement in life-you have to answer for it-especially if someone you love has been hurt on an emotional level. If he's willing to sit down to watch it with her ergo-going to put up with this crazy idea then that tells her something. She won't ever have to press play to watch it again-his willingness to right his wrong is what she's really looking to sort out. Will he do whatever he has to to make this right in her eyes? If he does, she's got nothing to worry about. If he won't-well then you may have a problem on your hands. I would explain said reasoning verbatim to him.

2.) It gives her some of her dignity back because she can state to him-it's not the porn I'm threatened by Ie-BM ain't got nothing on me. It's your actions.

OP you do whatever you're comfortable with. But don't let old news mess with your head too much. You're more valuable than that.

mommadukes2015's picture

Like I said, "she'll never have to press play" i.e. She will not ever have to watch it again. My point is that she needs to figure out what's more important to him. That's how I'd figure it out.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

She asked for a laugh... I found it hilarious--probably wouldn't go through.

So this is pretty personal and probably a bit TMI but I found the thought of DH with BM really like traumatic for a while early on in my relationship and it would pop up (like how OCD starts where you have a compulsive and intrusive thought) whenever we'd be getting it on... so I deliberately started to play out every scenario whenever we were going at it and like after a few weeks I got SO desensitized to the thought because I poked at it from every angle in the most uncomfortable way you'd imagine that it no longer bothered me AT ALL.

Like right now I could watch porn of BM and DH and not be phased (maybe even morbidly interested) because I err, examined the thought so closely in every permutation my mind could think of that probably anything else would be really vanilla to me.

Not saying this is what OP should do (especially since there's probably all sorts of freudian wrongs associated with conditioning yourself the way I did--and I am pretty sure DH would be PISSED and MORTIFIED if he knew I was essentially imagining him banging BM while banging me) but that there are strange ways to get past it.

Can't believe I just admitted this to a bunch of strangers on the internet but oh well.

mommadukes2015's picture

She asked: "What would you do?" That's what I'd do. She doesn't have to do it-that's just how I answered the posed question.

Hennypenny's picture

I had the same thing happen to me. He legit forgot though- back of the closet under a bunch of other boxes kind of thing. Homemade porn is always hilarious and this was no different. They both looked ridiculous, and I can never unsee BM's deflated balloon boobs.

Doesn't sound like he forgot though. He forgot he put them in his desk where you might find them- that I'd buy. I'd tell him you know he didn't just forget. Ask him if he has watched them even for a second since you have been together. Then it you believe him when he says no, tell him keeping the videos was a shitty, disrespectful thing to do and he'd better start acting like he recognizes it. Then I'd drop it, and try rinsing your eyes a few hundred times.

Of course- that's only if you believe him.

twoviewpoints's picture

You said you have moved not long ago.

Most people moving a heavy item such as a desk don't move it without removing the drawers. Makes the desk lighter and easier to carry. If that is indeed way desk was moved, I'd say the tapes got in the desk draw after the move.

notasm3's picture

I'm more concerned that he flipped out on you for mentioning it. He should at least be able to acknowledge your hurt feelings without turning on you. His utter disregard for your comfort level and his anger are repulsive.

But yes - in his desk - he made a choice to keep it. May or not be watching it - but he wanted to keep it. Of course that upsets you. His anger is just a way of gaslighting you.

BethAnne's picture

One day I did find a few compromising pictures of BM and a sex toy on my husbands computer. I deleted them then later that day told him what I had found and that I had deleted them. We did not argue over it. I knew my marriage is good and so I saw no reason to have an argument over them. I do not really remember his response.

It did disgust me and I did definitely know that he had put the pictures on there since we were together because I bought the laptop for him. We were however living thousands of miles away from BM at that time and I was confident that he had no current interest in her.

Your circumstances may be different to mine, so of course your reaction may be different.

notsobad's picture

I'm not sure how I'd feel. I think it's one of those things that you think you'd know exactly how you'd feel and what you'd do but when it actually happens to you, you react differently than you thought you would.

I think I'd just throw them out. I'd like to say that I wouldn't watch them but I know that I would and then I'd feel like crap and wonder why I tortured myself.

I had a polaroid of my exH's dick, Yes the original dick pic. It was taken on our honeymoon. I shoved it into the drawer with all my sexy silky underwear and never thought about it again.
I've moved a few times and never unpacked the drawers, just took them out with everything in it and put them back in once in the new place.
I never wear the sexy underwear, most of it was from the bachelorette party from the marriage to the ex. So about a year ago I went thru the drawer and tossed all the underwear and came across the pic. It made me laugh and remember the honeymoon, which wasn't a bad thing. We laughed and laughed when I took the picture, he wanted me to destroy it right then but I wouldn't. Then he wanted one of me and I wouldn't let him. It was a good memory, we were at one point in love and very happy together. There are a lot of bad memories from that marriage, it was nice to have one that wasn't bad.
No, I don't want to be with the ex. No I wasn't turned on. It just took me back to a time in my early 20s when the world was all rosy and I was very naive.

I cut the picture into small pieces and tossed it along with the underwear. It was all part of my past and I was happy to let it go.
I don't know if DH ever went into the drawer and saw it or not. If he did he never said anything.

Is_What_It_Is's picture

So how exactly did he flip out on you for mentioning it? Was he flipped because he was mad? Or because he was embarrassed - there is a difference, one being mad and the other being embarrassed. If he was mad then I'd be very hurt and curious as to why he was keeping them. Have you asked him why he still had them?

My Dh is forgetful at times so it wouldn't surprise me that he would forget he had something. But he would also be the one to throw stuff like that away without thinking twice about it.

In all, I'd be pizzed to know that he knew he had it when you first started a relationship and then to find it now in his desk when moving. If he knew he had it then he should have known to get rid of it - or better yet to have gotten rid of it before ever mentioning it to you in the first place!

iluvcheese's picture

I don't think it was embarrassment. He was angry & frustrated. It's how he gets when I'm hurt. He gets super defensive when he feels like a jerk. It's just how he is. It's extremely annoying when I'm hurt, because there's never any empathy or kindness coming my way when I need it. Instead he gets defensive & it makes everything worse.

His answer as to why he still had it is, "I forgot". There's no real answer:/.

iluvcheese's picture

& that works for the 2 of you, so that's cool. The 2 of you had a discussion & are living up to that.

When my DH told me about having a porn with her, when we first got together, he said he wouldn't be okay with me having such things so he needed to get rid of his too. I got rid of all of my stuff, before moving in with him as per his request, no problem doing it. He didn't give me the same courtesy. When I moved in with him, "our" old house, I found some stuff. He chucked it, but I find it odd he has more he forgot about.

Apparently that incident didn't make him remember everything else. Perhaps they filmed so much porn, he simply doesn't recall all of it. It's seeming likely right now. Either way, this stuff isn't flattering. Neither looks good or hot & that's not just me being a b. I'm wondering if he kept the 1 I watched for the kink factor. Stuff happened I'll definitely not participate in & im quite open minded in that department, but I believe in toilets & privacy for some things.

notsobad's picture

"if they walk by someone's table where a tip is left, they'll actually try and take it."

My little brother did this a pizza place we went To when he was about 8. We only ate out once a month and that was the place we always went to.
My Mother was mortified and he was so excited he almost peed himself!
My Mom tried to explain to him that it was for the waitresses but he just didn't get it, he was 8 and thought that the money was just left on the tables for him to take, lol.
She dragged is ass back into the restaurant and made him apologize, I think he was 13 or 14 before he understood what he'd done wrong.

iluvcheese's picture

I fell asleep last night after a much needed half bottle of wine. His desk is a big slab with a bunch of filing cabinets holding it up. Thats where the tapes were, buried underneath a bunch of other junk in the filing cabinets. When he mentioned he had such stuff, when we started dating, he said he wouldn't be into it if I kept such belongings & said he needed to get rid of his stuff like that too.

He knew I was going through things, getting rid of old stuff, etc. & said nothing about that being in there. I hope he would've stopped me, if he remembered. I don't think I'd be anywhere near as hurt, if it were with anyone else. This BM has disrespected me time after time & said some really disgusting things, which some of you may remember. I hate that he kept that of her, in our home.

It's gone now, demolished in the trash. He was more than willing to get rid of it. I'm going to try to believe he forgot, to keep the peace. My issue now, is being with him. I'm afraid I'll think of that, if he says some of the same things or touches me in a similar way, etc. I definitely should not have watched it, but the first was after a video labeled _ 1st bday. The bday video was cute, the porn was not!

panda88's picture

Unless he immediately felt horrified and embarrassed then he didnt forget. His 2nd reaction should have been destroying them infront of you. If neither of those happened within the first 3 minutes of the incident, I'd probably tell him to get bent.