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futurestepmomnowstepgf's picture

I am offically done posting on/commenting/looking at this site for a long while after my last post and after a few other posts of late I have seen where a vast majority are being torn down and people are just giving subjective opinions without reading the facts. So I am going to give my facts here about my situation, you don't like them, that is fine, but at the very least it should clear up some things with some of you who think I am selfish and my boyfriend doesn't want his children apparently.

1). Yes, both me and my boyfriend are happy that his stbx is moving states away. That is because she is a HCBM, at this point in time, she does not even know where my boyfriend lives and his lawyer told him he doesn't have to/shouldn't tell her because if not she would be showing up causing issues/calling CPS or cops causing issues too. She has called CPS on him SEVERAL times making COMPLETE false accusations, so putting distance between her and us, is a good thing. It was also inevitable because my boyfriend needs to move to the other coast for a job when he gets out of the military so he can financially support his children and have a better life for everyone. This is NOT ME saying we are moving or we should move, etc. I can work basically ANYWHERE. Just because we both do not want BM to DICTATE where we live, does not make him a dad who does not want his children or me a gf who wants them gone, I really dont. The arrangement of school year vs. holidays/breaks was something decided BEFORE I came into the picture. I AM NOT giving my opinion on what he should do or ANYTHING like that because I am just his gf.

2.) Yes, we have been together for ONLY 8 months and even though we don't live together we spend 5-6 days together a week, every week together. BTW all the adults in this equation RENT an apartment, there is no martial home or whatever. I am around the children MORE than the BM, but I NEVER said she wasn't their mother or that I KNOW how to take care of them better than she does. ALL I said was that you can tell the change in the children from when they come back from BMs place. In addition to the "no more daddy" comments, they come back exhausted no matter morning or night from her place, as if they barely slept, slamming things/throwing things if they do not get their way, disrespectful, saying other things like "cut you up like chicken," to my bf never to me, etc. I had asked my boyfriend a few months ago about if the courts do have anyone come out to the homes of both parents before trial. He said he didn't know, but his lawyer would know, so it is nothing like he is against it or anything, I had brought it up before and since one of the comments mentioned it, I was curious about how that works. BAD MOVE apparently on me for being curious on how things work because I didn't know, yeah I DO NOT live there, but that doesn't mean I am not allowed to be curious. I also have suggested counseling may be helpful, especially for the older one. He has begun to look into it a little bit, but has not pulled the trigger and I am not going to overstep my boundary and do more than nudge him on it here and there.

3.) Yes, both of us think BM is an UNFIT parent, but there is only so much that the courts actually take into consideration. I am aware of this. I mentioned the clothing thing as an example of she cannot even put the children in clothes that fit/are right for the weater/etc. that was ALL. Especially when she tries to sit there and claim she is most fit parent. Never said lets call CPS on this. The drugs, she got caught with weed and they did not test the white stuff around her nose because it was on the military base and she is a civilian. Which later my bf found out they could of and should of tested her, but they didn't. The lawyer said because weed is the only thing they really found, it wouldn't make a huge impact to help him win custody. The scissors and running away, yes obviously that is not enough unless it happens repeatedly, ALL i was saying is there things that happen on her watch FREQUENTLY but not the same thing, that shows she does not supervise them like she should be, and NOTHING like that happens when they are with dad. These are all just small examples, sorry I am NOT laying out every single example of things that happen/have happened, but in the end DO NOT give much of an upperhand to my boyfriend for winning primary custody. 

4.) No, I AM NOT buzzing in my boyfriends ear or trying to call the shots in any capacity. ALL I am doing here is listening to him, letting him vent, asking some questions, but NOT influencing his decisions on what happens in regards to custody or how we get there. My boyfriend is worried that if he goes to trial to fight the arrangment BM wants that he will end up getting less in the CO than he would of gotten if they went to mediation and agreed on some things. He does NOT want to drag the children through a nasty drawn out divorce and honestly, I don't think he can mentally handle doing so especially if in the end he loses because he is the father and not the mother. That in any way does not mean he is not interested in being their dad and because I am not sitting here saying don't let BM move or anything like that, does not mean I want the girls to be shipped off so him and I can start over. I just DO NOT want my boyfriend to resent me later because I influenced him in any capacity. It has to all be HIS decisions on how he proceeds. 

5.) YES, we have been together ONLY 8 months and YES the divorce isn't finalized, but I am not just some side chick trying to run his world or household. I DO help out with the kids a lot, not in the watching them capacity, I have watched them twice because I offered to in times that it wasn't in the best interest for the girls to go with him in the car for hours to pick up something/run an errand, to just turn around and drive hours back so we stayed home and played instead. I do help in getting them ready for the day/bed most of the time, I help cook for them sometimes, etc. I participate in the day to day in their lives, most of the time at my own discretion. I do it because I care about them and I know it helps my boyfriend out, but it is not EXPECTED of me as I am just the girlfriend of less than a year who does not live with him. Sure, he might ask me to do their hair or something here and there, but I enjoy doing it and it is optional. We all went on vacation together in January, he had the option to give them to BM or to take them with us, I said we would both be disappointed if they didn't come since. Especially when we already picked activities they would enjoy, got a air bnb with bunk beds for them, etc. they were part of our vacation plan from the beginning and we would regret not bringing them. 

So in conclusion, if you think I am some selfish unrealistic delusional woman because I am concerned for their wellbeing, but am happy the BM is moving, and I am not trying to influence how the custody gets worked out, but am instead just being supportive of my boyfriend, then that is your opinion, but there was a lot of things that were twisted around from my last blog and wanted to at least lay out the actual facts. Do with it what you will, but I don't feel bad about being a support system and I don't feel bad that I think BM moving would be less drama for everyone. 

 

**EDIT: Also, I only said it being a good thing about while they are already filing/sorting out custody, it is a good thing she is moving now so we don't have to refile, is because the lawyer said financially it would be better for my bf and because in the eyes of the court it would look better if she was the one moving out of state first, then him. I was just reiterating what the lawyer has said about moving/out of state. 

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Monkeysee's picture

I'm really sorry you've had a bad experience here OP.  There are a few posters who like to twist things and many of us know not to take them seriously.  I'm not sure I read a lot of the comments on your previous blogs, so I don't know what was said.

Some people here also believe if you're with a person before they're divorced, it's an affair regardless of whether they're in the process of divorce & have separate households. It's always a polarizing conversation, and can get heated.

I was with my DH while he was divorcing BM, though I was not the reason they divorced & met him well after they had separated & were living in different homes with separate finances etc. If people want to say I was a side chick or had anthing to do with their divorce, that's on them. I was there & know what happened, my conscience is clear & that's all that matters to me. I certainly don't judge others who met their SO while in the process of divorce. Divorce can take years, and people are allowed to move on.

Whether you end up staying on this site or not, I hope everything works out well for your BF & his kids.  I think in an ideal world parents stay near their kids after a divorce, but sometimes it's not practical & everyone has to learn to adjust.  There is no one right way to do things, and I think it's really good that you're letting your BF make his own decisions on how he wants to handle BM & court etc. 

This site is literally meant to be a place for people to vent, but at the same time we often both seem to forget that, and we all bring our own stories & end up projecting them on to everyone else, which is what sounds like happened to you with your blogs. Wishing you all the best either way!!

ProbablyAlreadyInsane's picture

This

Every comment needs to be taken with a grain of salt. You pick what advice you do or do not want ultimately. But it is a venting and advice website, so lots of people are going to throw their opinions out there.

You can't take the view others have of you on this site too far too heart. They're formed only based on small snippets and they're likely missing a lot of the picture, but they can also only work with what they're given.

Wish you the best OP!

futurestepmomnowstepgf's picture

Definitely have gotten some good feedback and advice from some people. Also learned a lot from others too, from what are/can be red flags and what to avoid, etc. but after my last blog and being told that I want the kids to disappear and he doesn’t want to be a father, makes me not want to post on here because all of that cannot be further from the truth.

I also hadn’t met my boyfriend until months after he had been moved out and papers filed. So I did not break anything up either.

I think mentally taking a step back from this site will do some good. I come from a nuclear family so this was all new to me, sure I am pretty involved in my boyfriends life and his kids lives, but I don’t think it’s in a negative way at all just because things are legally still being sorted and I’m not influencing him one way or another.

Will be back in a few months with either good news or bad news regarding my situation, but for now I don’t think the site is being helpful.

wish you the best too Smile  

 

tog redux's picture

Delete the nasty ones and take what you can from the non-nasty ones. Many of us are giving you good advice that you don't want to hear because you are in love and sure you can make this work out - but a lot of us were right in your shoes and have some valuable wisdom to give. What I would say is that you need to stay out of what goes on with your BF's kids and ex.  I wish I had done so more (I also was dating DH when he was separated but I wasn't the reason).  I got very caught up as you are in figuring it out, planning, trying to help him "win", etc, and all I got for that was misery.

dysfunctionally_blended's picture

This ^^^^. Exactly!

Many of us have been there done that. And it's true, the outcome isn't always what you had hoped.

I would leave the parenting and court decisions to your BF. It's way to early to be consumed in all of this.

Enjoy your relationship. Make sure it is worth continuing to build on. Don't let the crazy become your problem.

As for this site -  well, it is what it is. You have to weed through the good and the bad. 

futurestepmomnowstepgf's picture

I have had some helpful advice, suggestions, and in sight. However every relationship is different and everyone’s situation is different. So to a point yes I understand a lot of you have been there done that and are looking out for other women, but there is no relationship without any risk of not getting what you want and nothing but communication, honesty, and support has been given from my boyfriend and I to him, so I 100% believe we have a good foundation. 

What got to me was being told that we both want to pack up the kids and ship them off and basically never see them again and have the BM deal with it. That isn’t further from the truth, if it was true I wouldn’t be around the girls and wouldn’t have any concerns or would be pushing my bf to just sign them over, and I am doing none of the above. So just need to take a step back from that sort of energy that isn’t present and recharge mentally.

tog redux's picture

So - there you go again, dismissing good advice because "your situation is different".  DH and I have been happily together for 9 years despite all this stuff. I don't think you are a bad person for dating a separated man, because I did too.  But I am saying -  you can't fix this court stuff and you aren't going to "win" in court no matter how much of a better parent your BF is.  He probably is, most of us are in situations with BMs who shouldn't be allowed to have hamsters.  But courts favor mothers, especially for small children.  So let him sort out his crap and don't get invested in the outcome, too much.

 

Harry's picture

Her SO , Made these kids, but not he thinks it OK to abandon them. Buy moving thousand miles away, for a job. Or what ever.  So both of them can start over in a new place, and live happily ever after. He was living where he made the kids, but now that is not possible. And OP thinks this right.  Dump the kids. Or dump the kids on someone else.  If BM felt the same way,  the kids should go into Forster care ?

We are waiting for the new excuses,  plane fair are too high, we can’t afford tickets.  Even through we move BM should paid for transportation.  Or We can’t see the kids,  can’t afford $1000 for three days at thanksgiving, 

dysfunctionally_blended's picture

From what I understand he is military and moving where he has work. Because you know, he needs to pay child support and alimony somehow...

Life doesn't always work out how you want it to be. Sometimes people have to move. And the kids are young so even if BM is a crazy nut bag they still need their mother.

So where is he wrong?

futurestepmomnowstepgf's picture

I don’t think he is wrong either. He has been paying her spousal support for a year now as dictated by the military and technically he could stop because it only had to be for one year. However, his lawyer suggested it would be best for him to keep doing so until the divorce is finalized. Because it was under five years of marriage and he has been paying his lawyer thinks it’s unlikely he will have to pay alimony and if so would be a little for a short time. But yes he definitely needs to make money for the child support and to support himself 

futurestepmomnowstepgf's picture

as my boyfriend is military, the kids were born in two different states, neither of which is the state we currently live in. That’s all I’m going to say on that because I’m not being torn apart for thinking you don’t have to stay in the same state where the divorce was filed and that it is okay to start a career somewhere else.

justmakingthebest's picture

My Dh got full custody of his son as an active duty member when he was 19 yrs old. SS18 was 10 months old at the time. BM was on drugs and had charges, DH won full custody and had it ever since. BM has never had more than supervised visitation and even that never lasted for more than a month or 2 every couple of years. 

If you BF feels like BM is unfit then he needs to do the following:

A) Find a lawyer that believes fathers have equal rights. I am in VA too, this is a fairly liberal state when it comes to fathers rights. They are big on 50/50 here. 

Dirol Stop the kids from leaving the state. If BM wants to still go fine, but he can absolutely stop the kids from going.

C) Make sure he can have a family care plan that will ensure the care of the girls. Either you are part of that care plan or he needs to hire someone or have a family member come stay to help for the next couple of years. 

If he believes that his kids are in danger with BM, he needs to man up and take care of those kids. The divorce isn't even final yet, he still has a huge chance of winning custody. He has to be willing to do it. 

The problem that I and others saw was that you were totally ok with BM taking the kids and moving out of state even though you think she is unfit. That doesn't make sense. 

futurestepmomnowstepgf's picture

It was not my place to be in any deciding factors on the custody, that I was happy she is leaving, and that my boyfriend had to figure out what he wants to do. That was all that I said. It is not up to me and shouldn't be up to me what the custody arrangement is. I said she is either going to get them how she wants because she won't budge on getting them for the school year or he is going to go to trial regarding the custody arrangement.

A.) After a $6,000 retainer and 13 months of working with the same lawyer, unless he found that his lawyer truly isn't doing what is in the best interest for the children and doing all that she can do, he is not going to get a new lawyer. It is not that she doesn't believe that, it is in the matter of this case he does not believe he will win primary custody at this point.

B.) They would have to go to trial for sure on that and he is not sure if that is what he is going to do yet

C.) He already pays for and sends them to day care. He does not have any family members to come help, but don't really need any extra help as he is in a non deployable unit and has day care services.

He has been manning up and taking care of the kids for over a year now, she barely has him. He wants to get the divorce finalized and battle out custody, but with her response of going to counseling she will not agree to that. 

Me staying out of it because they are not my children and I am not his wife does not mean I am like here take them at all.

tog redux's picture

In your DH's case, BM was truly, demonstrably unfit and it doesn't sound like she really wanted the kid. In the OP's case, BM is not a great parent, but not so bad that the court is going to take small children and give them to the father.  And she wants them and will fight for them.

beebeel's picture

Isn't your bf military? Many people don't understand that these base towns are useless for people once they are out of the military. If he plans to retire/get out soon, it is very common for people to move back to their home state/"thousands of miles away." If he were to stay in the military, he could be stationed in freaking Germany, but no one would claim he "abandoned his kids." Being in the military is a job choice, just like any other. Sometimes, you have to move with or for the job. Such is life. If some people can't understand that or get their panties in a bunch over it, it's because they enjoy drama and arguing. Don't let them get under your skin.

justmakingthebest's picture

Sure, military moves are par for the course. The issue is BM being unfit and moving out of state with the kids while he will still be stationed there for 2 more years. If he is genuinely concerned about the kids and the divorce isn't even finalized yet, he should fight to keep them there for now. 2 years is a long time to a child. 

beebeel's picture

I read her previous blog. The bm doesn't sound like MOTY, but she isn't legally unfit. She isn't in rehab or jail, so getting full custody will be extremely difficult. If they stop her from moving out of state, they would have to stay as well. Then all of them would be stuck in the military base state with few civilian prospects for jobs. Why? To appease a few internet strangers? LOL

People maintain relationships with their kids long distance all the time. This guy and his STBex agree that they will all be moving out of state. That's a done deal. Harping on the OP and accusing her bf of being a shitty father and over and over again isn't going to change these parent's minds. And you aren't going to convince OP that her bf is abandoning his kids because that's not what is happening.

futurestepmomnowstepgf's picture

Yes he is military and with his education background, without extra schooling, etc. he cannot get as good of a job where we are now and make the same amount of money, benefits, etc. He has a guranteed job when he gets out that has benefits, great pay, etc. so that is why we would be moving, so he can support his children and provide for them.

I am trying not to let it get under my skin, just hard when people are making it sound like we are abandoning them and I can't mind my own business

He has only been in for 6 years and the best option career wise for him is not here. Thank you for being supportive and understanding where I/We are coming from. We aren't monsters for being okay with out of state custody and monsters for creating a better life for everyone where the job opportunity is. The BM is moving away too for a job that is more pay so that is also providing better support for the children too. 

bananaseedo's picture

You are correct.  It sounds to me like you both have figured out the course to take...it just pisses people off that you don't do it THEIR way because everyone should fit their little mold.  People do split summer/school all over the world and do fine.  Some people have called women 'sluts' on this board because they were dating a still legally married man...they are just bitter nasty people. 

They have this 'stay in your lane' -and yes it shoudl be his decision in the end-BUT if will also affect your life.  The stepmom in me says if the mother isn't horribly unfit, let them go and then you'd only have summers to deal w/the brats lol

Or he can battle it out for him to keep custody during school year, the issue is most of the time it ends up being the STEPMOM that raises them...that for me is a hard NO-not having a break the whole school year and playing the mom card isn't my idea of a good time.