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Not My Kid, Not My Problem...But is It??

Frustr8d1's picture

For all you seasoned SM veterans out there, I have a truly genuine question. How far should us SMs take the idea of "not my kid, not my problem?" I have SD9 full time. BM has contacted SD 3 times in 3 years and only seen her twice. So, skid IS my problem and I'm the only mom she really knows.

Tonight, after feeding and helping SD with an art contest, I sat here drifting away on the computer. I overheard SD talking to DH about school. The only part I heard was DH raising his voice to tell SD, "Too bad! It is your fault for lying to your teacher and your parents. If your teacher tells you this again, just know it was your own choice to lie."

I have no idea what that was all about, SO here's my million dollar question:

Do I ask DH what happened and what SD lied about this time?
OR
Do I just sit back, ignore, disengage, and say not my kid, not my problem?

Seriously, I've seen so many mixed signals on this site that I'm starting to wonder if I'm doing it all wrong. Normally, I at least ask what is going on with skid and I try to offer help/advice/opinion to DH. But, after the "Cable in Skid's Room" post, now I'm wondering if I'm supposed to just back off and care less?? (For the record, both DH and I have agreed that NONE of our kids or skids will have tv in their rooms!)

See, I hate that I'm supposed to be involved with this "poor" lying manipulative SD when it comes to her emotional needs, but I'm supposed to back the fuck off when it comes to discipline and real parental guidance in teaching life skills. It's so conflicting and such a HORRIBLE double standard!

FML

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StickAFork's picture

Well, goodness, I think this is your second blog in as many days prompted by me.
I think I'm flattered. Biggrin

The answer is: Whatever works in YOUR family. Plain and simple.
The blog you referenced had one big caveat: the biodad WANTED the cable in the room and the SM did not.
They are clearly, not "on the same page."

If you and your DH work and operate as SD's parents, then that's what you do. (The situation you mentioned, though...I'd let DH bring it up to me. I wouldn't overhear and then question, personally.)

I did all the "mom things" for my SD. We were NCP for years, and then CP for years, and then I was IT. I was the "parent" she lived with, who supported her, who taught her how to drive, etc. I NEVER had the "not my kid, not my problem" attitude with her.

Oh, I hope I count as "veteran." I've been stepping about 20 years.

doll faced sm's picture

I would say in the case of an absent BM, there is a huge difference.

However, regardless of what the BM's level of involvement, you simply cannot parent a step-child more than your partner, their biological parent, will allow you to.

Yes, it is an *enormous* double standard; it's also the main reason a lot of SMs end up disengaged. It's heart-wrenching to be told that you're expected to be emotionally available to a child; however, you are not to assist in the teaching, rearing, discipline, guidance, etc. The person who could do this is a person I would, frankly, be frightened of. It's practically an expectation to be a sociopath but only where the step child is concerned. Be outwardly loving, caring, and make the child like you (i.e. exibit charm and charisma), but don't care at all if the child doesn't bathe, over-eats, disrespects you, is being abused/neglected by the other bio, failing classes, refuses to follow house rules, etc.

Anyway, the answer to your question is really in your DH. Does he allow you full parental rights and responsibilities with your SD? If so, by all means, ask, investigate, support, etc. If, however, your DH is of the I'll-tell-you-what-you-want-to-hear-then-do-whatever-I-please-with-*MY*-daughter type, then disengaging could save your sanity.

Frustr8d1's picture

DH is constantly looking to me for advice. He trusts me. He supports me. He wishes SD was ours, and not a sleazy one-night-stand scam. BM scammed him out of over $45K before they even dated. Long crazy criminal story. Not your typical step-story.

So, for you 20-year Veteran-- "I'd let DH bring it up to me. I wouldn't overhear and then question, personally." I won't say a word. I'm letting it go....

giveitago's picture

I would disengage, maybe a little more slowly than some of us here have done. I did it a while back and it works for me. I'd just say 'sorry sweetie, if I am not able to do ALL the mom things then I have to limit myself in other ways too.'
Actually, when I told ours, they said 'you are not our mom so we do not have to do anything you say.' I said 'you are absolutely correct, I am not your mom. Nor do I have to do mom things for iether of you' That worked too!

Willow2010's picture

I don't think that a full time SM can or should disengage with a young skid at home.

giveitago's picture

I agree, Willow, I had three SKids full time and the same bullcrap coming out of thin air, and their dad's mouth when it came to chastising them for ANY reason! They played their dad, he bought into it and that left me with no choice. I'm like 'I love you very much, but you'd best go and ask your dad.' He pretty quickly got tired of it when he saw exactly what I was up against!

Kes's picture

I agree it is probably not feasible to disengage when the SKID lives with you full time- I know I couldn't be disengaged under these circumstances. But around particular issues that occur day to day - you may feel you need to pick and choose which ones you want to get involved in, and which to steer clear of. I think that would be my approach - ones I felt particularly strongly about - I would put my oar in - ones I didn't I would leave to DH to sort out.
I actually used to do this when bringing up my adult bio daughters with exH - there was stuff I couldn't or didn't want to handle and I let him do it - as he did with me. He'd get much more involved with their academic stuff, whereas I had had such bad experiences at school (bullying etc) that I preferred not to deal with it. I would be much more involved with personal stuff.

Frustr8d1's picture

I'm taking all your advice. Like Old Dart said, someone will probably fess up in the next couple of days and tell me what happened so I won't ask. Still, like Willow said, "I don't think that a full time SM can or should disengage with a young skid at home." I'm the only mom SD9 knows. It's her own BM who is fully disengaged! I find myself having to make somewhat of an effort to engage or re-engage with SD. I'm not the kind of person who even wants to overstep or get too involved. When I met DH, I had already raised my own BD and I had NO intention of starting all over. Especially for someone else's kid! Unfortunately, DH had a 4 yr old when we met and since then, we decided to have our own DD2. So I'm at square 1 all over again Sad But, I truly couldn't be more happy with BD2 and I find it rather easy to focus my parenting decisions on BD and disengage when it comes to parenting issues with SD9.

Still, since we all live under the same roof, it seems like it creates a weird vibe for SD to see that she is not my kid so I will not get involved in parenting or school issues. But, SD's half sister IS mine so I WILL get involved in all aspects of parenting issues with her. That's what I mean when I say blended families create a gap/disconnect when they apply "my kid, your kid, not my kid, not your kid" mentality. I'm sure there's a balance but I'm still looking for it.

Oh, how this sucks.

Frustr8d1's picture

BTW, Parent-Teacher conference is next week and I absolutely do not want to go! However, I know DH will want me to go and I think SD would be upset/hurt if I don't go. I seem to be in a backwards opposite position from many other posters here.

To go or not to go.....? :?

I am trying's picture

"See, I hate that I'm supposed to be involved with this "poor" lying manipulative SD when it comes to her emotional needs, but I'm supposed to back the fuck off when it comes to discipline and real parental guidance in teaching life skills. It's so conflicting and such a HORRIBLE double standard!"

This is exactly how I feel! I have been expected to intervene when SD is having an emotional crisis or extreme behaviour issue (her BM even asks my advice)but then there are certain things that are apparently none of my business and I have no say in. It just seems wrong.

Frustr8d1, you said as well that your DH seeks out your advice and that you generally feel comfortable asking what's up so you can help out or offer support. I don't see anything wrong with this. Why are you expected to back off and wait for him to come to you to tell you what's going on with SD when you are basically her only mom? I believe that everything that happens with SD is your business because it affects your family, including your own BD, so rather than having the two of them growing up with weird tension about who is involved in what particular situation with each of them, you should let your instincts guide you. I'm sure the choices you make are in everyone's best interest, so why shouldn't you be an equal partner and parent for both of the children in your family? Having said that, it's fine if you want to let DH handle this one on his own and not get involved. It seems like this isn't the first (or last) instance of lying by SD so it's up to you if you think you want to know what's going on or just want to wait and see how it plays out.

If you want to be involved and you are accustomed to that and it works for you and for DH then don't listen to anyone else. I don't think there is a "right answer" but I know that being a SM is a thankless job full of annoying double standards that keep coming up no matter how long you've been at it.

Good luck!

Frustr8d1's picture

Probably the first useful and encouraging comment I've seen on this site so far! You're right, my husband will even tell you he is clueless when it comes to most parenting issues and I always tell him all the things I wish I did/didn't do with my 22 yo. After learning so many things I did wrong with my 22 yo, I have a whole new approach to parenting and it seems to work very well. It just gets so convoluted when it comes to the skid.

Some people on this site don't understand that it's useless to argue about the "right" way to raise kids. This site isn't about HOW to raise kids, but how to raise kids DESPITE the fact that you're "Not my mom!"

Thanks, I am trying!