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Just Want To Do The Right Thing....But What Is It?

Clearly An Upgrade's picture

DH and I have been estranged from SD17.5 for exactly three months today. She lived with us full-time for a little over a year, and had contact with BM maybe six times during that year. Her residency in our home came to a very ugly and ubrupt end after she broke a major house rule and was facing a consequence for her actions. (It wasn't a very serious punishment, and we were fairly easy on her, far easier than if it had been either of our other DD's). SD couldn't "handle" it, so she decided to move back to BM's. There was a major blow-out, harsh words were said by all of us, and we have had no contact SD since then, except for one instance when we ran into her at a local store. We said Hi, and she walked away from us. SD now has a different phone number (we'd have to go through BM, with whom we've been no-contact with for almost two years, because she's toxic, violent, and evil), she blocked and "unfriended" us on FB, and changed her email address. She also just recently blew off DH's birthday entirely, no "Happy Birthday" or even a "F*ck You" from her.

The day after SD moved out, BM filed an ex-parte Show Cause motion with the court, asking for full legal and physical custody, denial of parenting time for DH, and one hell of a child support modification. (She was basically asking for CS that was five times more than what DH had paid for the preceding fourteen years, after not sending a dime to support SD during the year she lived with us. She also collected and kept ten months of CS that was sent to her through DH's wage withholding until the support division FINALLY stopped taking it.)

The real kicker in all of this though, was that BM also filed for a restraining order against both DH and myself, stating that we abused SD while she lived with us, and that SD was "afraid for her life". WTF. Protecting ourselves against these actions cost us dearly emotionally, as well as financially. We had to retain two different attorneys to fight her allegations, and we were successful in getting the restraining order thrown out. We were able to come to a resolution with the CS issue through settlement negotiations, and didn't fare too badly. DH will certainly be paying a lot more than before, but BM didn't get even close to what she wanted.

Now, the dust is finally settling, and it is blissfully quiet and mellow around our home. Feels so good after all we've been through. But the fact that there has been no contact with SD is distressing, as we know that BM's home is a dangerous place for SD's mental and physical well-being. We have thought about trying to contact SD several times, and have been advised against it by the counselors. They've encouraged DH and I to "let SD come to us", which is inevitable.

However, the wait is painful and difficult. DH has never NOT been involved in his daughter's life. She is currently in her senior year in high school, and the school's Open House is next week. This would be the very first school function that we've ever not attended. There is a good chance that SD will be there, as she has always volunteered with refreshments and set-up of school events. BM may be there, although she has rarely attended in the past. If we were to go (or DH attends alone), we have no idea how SD will react to us, or him. We're having a tough time with just not going, because we want to go and support SD, regardless of the past. If we don't go, it will be easier for us emotionally, but BM will surely use our absence as a weapon against us, and talk massive sh*t to SD about how "her father has written her off, doesn't care about her". There's just no easy answer.

What do you all think? We're damned if we do, and damned if we don't. Sad

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ubrngoutdbitchnme's picture

Wow....who knew these teenage SDs are capable of causing so much drama and distress...of course the ones that one up it do so with the help of their BMs. My SD also ran away from her punishment by choosing to go live with her BM that she hadn't seen in over 5 years. BM sent an email to my SO spewing all this crap. How we emotionally and physically abused SD17 and SS15. How SD17 hated living with us because we are toxic people and blah blah blah. Come to find out now that SD17 now wants to come back to live with us. I guess we aren't so toxic anymore.

Damned if you do or damned if you don't go to the Open House...Go. If you can get your SDs class schedule you should do so. Its only a few hours of your time. There really isn't much to lose. I doubt your SD will cause a scene in front of her friends. Not unless she is a real brat.....

Most Evil's picture

I would just go if you want or if you want to, don't. Either way has plusses and minuses.

If you go, you went and made the effort. Or you could go and have some weird interaction with SD/BM, which really, so what except that you were there and could get loud, etc.

If you don't go, you don't waste your time, money, effort, etc. on someone who won't even talk to you, who is very close in age to a legal adult and there does not qualify as a 'child that does not know what they are doing (ok close but you know what I mean).

Or if you don't go, you do not reward her for treating you this way. She has to have either her slack mom go if she will and she may just compare what you would have done to what BM is doing, and realize she needs to make up with you. Ding, ding, ding!! we have the winner imo!!

reallifedrama's picture

I wouldn't go. She may flip out in the school and it would probably just be best for you all not to have your business going on in public.

When she starts her public ranting, whatever she has to say about the situation (which will most likely be all negatives in regards to you and your DH) is what is going to stick with the teachers and other parents there. Fair, or not people tend to be sensitive to a kid's perception (and lies) of the way things are.

I just don't think you should let her victimize you like that. Let her make the effort to reach out to you. It sounds like you really care about her and have a great deal of concern as well.

Until she stops acting like a victim and placing blame on you and your DH for her getting in trouble, I would just keep waiting like you have been and stay as positive as you have been for when she returns. She's young so there's a chance she will mature and realize how foolish she's being with her exaggerated, extreme temper tantrum

Clearly An Upgrade's picture

I know this sounds like such a minor thing to have such conflicting feelings about, but it's really just tearing me up. On one hand, the feeling of relief I get when I think about not going is incredible. All these years of awkward, contentious, uncomfortable school and extra-curricular activities that we have attended ALL of....we're talking sometimes seven to fifteen events a month!! BM rarely showed up, but when she did, SD would have a panic attack of epic proportions. She would be literally frozen with fear over which parent to look at, who to say hello and goodbye to first, whether she would get in trouble for giving me a hug, or a smile, or a wave....BM has tied this kid's insides into a knot that will take years of therapy to untangle. SD literally does not breathe when BM, DH, and I are in the same vicinity. BM will not hesitate for a second if she feels the need to make a scene.

Last year at SD's powderpuff football game, DH and I attended with our two DD's. This was the first time that BM had ever seen our new baby, and DD was about eleven months old. BM came over to where we were already seated, and sat directly across from us....with at least HALF of the stadium's seats open. "Marking her territory", so to speak, without actually pissing on anything. Blum 3 We ignored her the entire time. She stared at us the entire time. I was so uncomfortable. DH and I ended up striking up a conversation with a woman in front of us that had a small dog. The dog was super cute, and every time it would wag it's tail or try to lick, our DD would burst out laughing. So, you can imagine, a belly-laughing baby, and an adorable puppy....we had the attention of pretty much every person in attendance. Lots of smiles, cooing...yeah, my baby is freaking adorable.

BM was SO! F*CKING! P*SSED! off that at one point she looked like she was going to explode. She kept getting up from her bench and stomping up and down the metal stands, making a huge scene with the noise. Red faced and furious, she kept grabbing her other daughter by the arm and talking angrily into her ear. Everyone looked confused, especially her daughter. In the last few seconds of the game, SD threw a pass to a teammate that scored the winning touchdown. It was an awesome play, and the whole place was going wild with excitement. The parents of the players rushed the field, congratulating their kids. BM got into her car and left without saying a word to SD. SD was CRUSHED. She called her over and over, leaving messages, texting...no answer. DH finally asked her if she wanted to go out to eat, come over to our place...SD said she was going to walk home. In the dark. Two and a half miles. DH said no, we'll give you a ride.

I will never in my life forget the look on SD's face. She turned to her father and said "Please don't make this worse. It's already going to be terrible. If you guys give me a ride, I'll be in more trouble. Please dad, just let me walk." We were stunned at her candor. She got a text from BM just after she said that, before we could even respond. It said "Thinking about going anywhere with your pops and step-mommy? NOT a good idea. I don't believe that I need to elaborate on why." Holy sh*t, mommy dearest.

SD is a major over-achiever, because she is dying to gain BM's approval and favor, which she will never get. (Unless SD is trashing us, then she's golden with BM.) Striving to be perfect has literally driven this poor girl batsh*t crazy. I KNOW that she is struggling with anorexia/bulimia, depression, and low self-esteem. When she went back to BM's, she was forced to go off of her anti-depressants cold-turkey, and she was on a fairly high dose. BM doesn't "believe" in doctors, pills, or therapists, and SD is a major hypochondriac.

So this is why we struggle so much with letting the no-contact go on. Yes, SD has moments where she acts like a total b*tch. She has treated us like garbage, especially in the past few months. But she wants to be a good person, and usually is. I know that not being in contact with us is hurting her tremendously. It isn't about punishing us for whatever it is she feels we did wrong, it's about the possibility of losing BM. Because she can't have us both, BM won't allow it.

SD loving me and her father is tantamount to treason as far as BM is concerned. BM has always had an "it's us against the world, baby" kind of attitude. Well, BM may have created a life for herself where the world truly IS against her. She's hateful, vindictive, and, like I've said in previous posts, immediately goes for the "emotional jugular" against any perceived opponent. She makes enemies everywhere she goes. She doesn't have ONE friend that I can name, and I've known this chick for sixteen years. None of her husbands or boyfriends have stuck around for long. SD is (and always has been) the person she leans on for support. It is completely as*backward. BM has what I've called "single mother-itis". She wants that status, BAD. BM will tell anyone that will listen that DH has never supported her or SD, he has been an absent father, a deadbeat, left her while she was pregnant, etc, etc, ad nauseum.

The reality couldn't be further from the truth. I KNOW, because I've been here through all of it. A man that has his daughter three days a week (Fri-Sun) is NOT an absent father. A man that has never missed a CS payment (because even if he was out of work, I paid it), is NOT a deadbeat. A man that moves away from his job and family to follow his "baby momma" to a different state, so that he could work, pay the bills for BM and SD while he lived in his car, is NOT unsupportive. I could go on, but you get the idea.

This just turned into a much longer diatribe than I had intended. I guess I'm just still processing the situation as I write it. I'm frustrated and sad that things have turned out this way. I'm furious that BM could knowingly smear her daughter's view of her father in order to keep SD's loyalties with her, and her only. I know that this will backfire on BM someday. But quietly waiting for BM to get hit by the karma bus, all while maintaining our dignity and adult status, is painful.

Wow, Red, and Most, I believe that you are right. There is no reason to lay our necks on the chopping block. SD has made it clear that she doesn't want contact with us. For there to be any real relationship with her in the future, she's going to have to make the first move. We've chased her for long enough. And she's so close to being an adult, definitely thinks she's already an adult, that she can make this adult decision, and suffer the adult consequences.

Clearly An Upgrade's picture

Wowthisishard - I totally understand what you mean!! Writing (or blogging, in this case) is very therapeutic for me, and then there's the added bonus of people (who actually understand!) responding with thoughtful posts.

I often go back over my posts, journal entries, letters, etc. in an attempt to better understand where we've been, what has worked, what hasn't, where things went right/wrong, how to do better in the future. Sometimes I feel like ALL I am is a SM, even though I have two DD's of my own, and many other positive things in my life. One problem I am constantly facing my therapist has called "rumination". I have a very hard time shifting my focus. I am here with my family, but often my mind is elsewhere, thinking about SD, the past, the future, how all of this crap has affected (or will affect) my DD's and DH, the conflicts, the love lost, the b*tch BM, what I should/shouldn't have said...it just goes on and on. It is maddening!!

BM and SD do not deserve to have that much of me, all of that space in my brain. I remind myself all the time that I need to stop letting them "live rent-free" in my head, it's just difficult to do consistently. There are so many unresolved issues, and I'm not used to being so helpless in finding some sort of resolution. I know that it isn't even my job to "fix" this situation. I am affected by it, see my DH and daughters affected by it, but I don't personally have the power to make anything with SD or BM different. That is frustrating beyond words.

Thank you for your responses. It really helps to know that there are other people going through similar situations, although this isn't something I would wish on anyone. I am comforted knowing that even after all we've been through, DH and I are still solid as a couple, and are able give our DD's a much different life than SD has had. I wish things could be better for SD, but some of the things that she struggles with are due to her own choices. We're all free to choose the life we want after a certain point. I thought for certain that once she reached an age where she had her own opinions and voice that she would reject BM's tumultuous lifestyle. Maybe that will still happen, maybe she will find happiness and stability for herself. But we can't force her to open her eyes to the dysfunction that BM is dragging he through. So there's nothing that can be done until SD has had enough of the constant drama, if she ever reaches that point.

Annanymous's picture

If you chase her, you are telling her she was right and shouldn't have to follow rules. She has gone to extremes of making abuse allegations and RO and the teenager slap in the face of defriending on facebook and changing email. If she were 10 or 12, I would say go to the open house, but she is 17-1/2, almost 18.

She needs to come to Dad on her own and she needs to apologize for her behavior. Until then, pay the CS and never a dime more.

Jsmom's picture

Do not chase this child. She is almost an adult. You have been paying therapists for advice and yet don't want to take it. Seriously, you will always be chasing her and bribing her to spend time with you. Stay away and let her come back to you. She will but be prepared that it may not happen for years....

My SD16 did the same thing and DH only talks via text once in awhile and she lives in the subdivision across from us. He has seen her three times in 2 years. He had to come to grips with it and it did take awhile, but now he doesn't chase her. For her birthday, he just mailed a card with no gift so he is coming to grips with it. Justs takes awhile.

DO NOT CHASE HER. You are setting yourselves up.