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Chapter 24, Part 2: Family Therapy Round One – The Therapist Quits

caninelover's picture

After Bratty completed her individual appointment with the therapist, we scheduled a group session.

Bratty came armed with a long list of complaints and demands.  The first request off the bat was Bratty did not want to move out.  SO and I both said no, and that she needed to move out by the end of summer as previously agreed.  Bratty then said would be fine without her own room but would need to keep her stuff at our place.  WTF, Bratty this is not up for negotiation. 

We told her (again) that we had plans for the room and not enough storage space in our garage.  For future visits we expected her to use the guest room.  Bratty complained this was a problem because she felt like she was ‘only 22’ (note - she turned 23 three weeks later) and that was too young to be on her own.  Her future plans were not certain, she didn’t know when she would be applying to med school (LOL), and there would be circumstances where she would want to return home.  The therapist asked her to elaborate.

Bratty gave one specific example of if she didn’t get into medical school she would want to come home to be depressed.  WTF!  If you’re not prepared for that possible outcome you should delay applying until you’ve come up with a better Plan B than lying on my sofa and being depressed.  Bratty then gave another example of her planning major surgeries coming up.  Bratty said she was considering top surgery to align with her non-binary identify and where was she supposed to recuperate?  I volunteered that she could return home for recovery, but it was up to SO could take time off work to help her.  I also said that should be a temporary and rare situation and not an invitation to move back in.  The therapist clarified if we minded short visits and we said of course not.

At one point, the therapist used the incorrect pronouns for Bratty.  Bratty offered to the therapist to use ‘he/him’ pronouns instead as although they identified as non-binary they mostly presented as masculine.  The therapist replied with ‘that’s helpful because they/them is awkward since its’ plural’.  I cringed as I knew Bratty would not appreciate that but instead Bratty moved onto her next demand.

Bratty felt lonely when she didn’t have anywhere to go for Christmas.  The prior year SO had accompanied me to my parents’ house on the east coast for Christmas while Bratty was still at her post-bac program.  Bratty demanded to be included in future visits to my parents’ home. 

Now this finally lead me to blow a gasket.

I get to see my parents and sister once a year around the holidays for a week.  My parents do not live near me, they are on the other side of the country.  They have never met Bratty as she was already over 18 when SO and I started dating.  They casually inquire to SO about her but never asked to meet her.  What angered me was even the thought of Bratty bringing her world-class drama to ruin my family’s holiday week.  I could already see it now – Bratty would whine to SO about the food not being vegan, too spicy, or [insert complaint here] so can she and Daaaddeeee go off to dinner somewhere for vegan food or probably Boston Market.  My parents are from a different country - English is not their native language and they are also older and forgetful – there is no way they would successfully use Bratty’s preferred ‘they/them’ pronouns.  That would be another complaint Bratty would bring to SO as well.  Basically it would be a disaster and there was no way in hell I was going to let that happen.

I became angry and told Bratty I would not allow her to join us as 1) my family had no interest in meeting her and 2) she was an entitled, rude, self-absorbed person who would complain the whole time.  Bratty was stunned as I normally remain fairly calm and normally don’t react to many of her shenanigans.   Bratty managed to stammer out ‘but…I thought you could be my stepmom’. (?!?!) 

The therapist then probed me a bit on why my reaction was so strong. 

I stated I disliked Bratty and she would ruin the week.  I also told her I was very protective of my family and did not want to introduce this bad apple into the mix.  Lastly I mentioned that I had been bullied as a child in school and didn’t appreciate the list of demands Bratty was pushing onto me.  I stated clearly I had no desire to be Bratty’s stepmom.  The therapist said she thought my reactions were all important but we were near the end of the session and should reflect in the next session.

In the interim, Bratty had dropped off the video call.  She texted claiming her internet had dropped off but SO texted back saying we would pick up at the next session.  This next session never actually happened because a couple of days later, Bratty sends an email to SO and I.

Bratty stated that she sent the therapist an email after the last session complaining that the therapist used incorrect pronouns for her and it caused her major ‘hurt’.  Bratty also complained to the therapist that she needed to mediate the sessions better because Bratty did not like being yelled at by me.  It reminded her of her mother’s verbal abuse and triggered PTSD in her.  The therapist responded to Bratty and said she was no longer comfortable working with her and suggested that we either resolve our issues over email or find a different therapist.  Bratty relayed all this to in her email to us.

Neither SO or I had any knowledge of Bratty emailing the therapist after our last session until Bratty’s email to us, and we never actually saw the email itself.  SO said he was disappointed but could work on finding an alternate therapist.  I was not at all thrilled at starting over from square one and finally agreed to work with a different therapist on the condition that Bratty speak to them individually first and confirm she was comfortable with them, and that Bratty should stop emailing the therapist and focus on discussing the issues in the sessions – which would be the main point of group therapy.  Bratty didn’t respond but SO did locate an alternate therapist.  After Bratty and SO met with Therapist 2.0, I met with him one on one.  We’ll see what happens next…

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TheAccidentalSM's picture

I'm speechless at their behaviour.

caninelover's picture

Which is why I disengaged...

The one real value of the family therapy for me is that I finally saw Bratty for who she is.  She has NPD and that will likely mean she can't really see her behavior the same way others do.

Jcksjj's picture

Omg. The entitlement - how infuriating. I feel like this is my SD in the future. I'm assuming she was spoiled rotten growing up?

caninelover's picture

Private schools, etc. - all a very sheltered upbringing.  Bratty's BM was the disciplinarian.  SO is very permissive.

tog redux's picture

Wow, you must have the patience of a saint to agree to try that again. 

Good for the therapist.

caninelover's picture

I felt I wanted to just finish with expectations around visits after I let it out that I dislike Bratty and didn't want to be her stepmom.  Actually getting that out there fellt like a huge relief to me.

tog redux's picture

I don't get how top surgery aligns with Gender Non-Binary? Wouldn't that align with being male?

Never mind, I know her thinking makes no sense. 

caninelover's picture

Make everyone say she/her. 

Non-binary people that were assigned female at birth prefer an appearance that looks pre-pubescent - no outward indication of any female breasts.  They can 'bind' to hide the boobs but that is probably uncomfortable long-term.

Bottom surgery would align more with male, or so I'm told by Bratty whether I want to hear it or not.

Frankly I don't care about Bratty's or anyone else private parts, except my own and SO's.  LOL.

 

caninelover's picture

Bratty made it sound like she was going to have surgery after surgery for a year or so and therefore would be entitled to live with me.  LOL.  No, Bratty, you can stay here for one surgery and you should leave when you're up and about and able to care for yourself for the remainder of your recovery.  That's it.

bearcub25's picture

I have a question from an old woman.  Why is he/him non binary but she/her isn't?

I get not saying they/them for a singular person but instead of he/she can you say it?   That was sarcastic but I'm completely confused.  It seems Bratty changes the rules to the day of the week and her mood.

Jcksjj's picture

Yesss. As, I guess, an "unwoke" millennial the self righteousness of some of the people demanding these things drives me insane. They get so upset when someone just doesn't know or understand rules that are basically new, or half the time completely individualized to that person or even contradicting what someone else's rule is. 

Honestly, I think alot of it is just an extension of the need to be special and entitled. Someone unintentionally offending you doesn't give you the right to be rude. And expecting someone to break a lifetime habit to remember what your special rule is is pretty self absorbed.

caninelover's picture

I have no issue with trying if it makes a young person feel better about themselves.  Heck its pretty tough to grow up nowadays.  But I don't get attacking someone who may not understand o rperfectly adapt to the new rules.

In the new rules, intent doesn't matter as much as impact.  The incorrect pronoun still impacted the poor gender neutral person so you need to apologize regardless.  That part I'm not sure I'm aligned with.

bearcub25's picture

I would seriously be calling Bratty IT every damn time if she kept switching it up all the time. I do not care what color a person is or what sexual orientation they prefer, but I do not think these kids are old enough to know what they want and then expect the world to bend to their will every other day.

caninelover's picture

Its the rigid absoluteness of her requests.  I don't mind if people prefer something and I'll try.  But to cry that a therapist that Bratty met exactly twice making an error in her pronoun - that caused her major 'hurt' - feels contrived.  I could understand if she made the request of say, her father, and he ignored/dismissed it but essentially a rando/stranger?  I don't get that at all.

tog redux's picture

Yes, agreed. I liken it to me not having changed my last name to DH's. Sometimes I get called Mrs. DH's last name, sometimes he gets called Mr. tog's last name.  I don't even correct people usually, unless it's for official paperwork.  The majority of women change their last name to their husband's, so it's logical that people would assume I did. No need to get on a feminist soapbox about it.  

 

caninelover's picture

The reality of the world is people make assumptions all the time.  SO and I are not married but people often refer to him as my DH.  I don't correct them unless there is a need to.

bananaseedo's picture

THIS so much this, I'm sorry but this recent trend is just ridiculous....90 plus identities out there, everyone trying to be unique and special ....and when it comes to identity sorry you are him/her- even if you feel like a damn Christmas ornament.. this non-binary/he/she/it/they is utter bullshit, I'm sorry but it is.  It's absolute insanity and I don't care how 'non' woke that makes me.  It's nothing but a symptom of these selfish dysfunctional kids and times.   I for one would never entertain it. 

I'm an extremelly open minded lefty person, and I will defend gays/lesbian and transgenders with everything in me- but this non-gender BS is just that BS.....reinventing shi( to make you feel unique and special. You're not.  Get over it aholes.  UGHHH

 

caninelover's picture

It's the extremist trans-trenders that want to be 'unique' that drown out the real kids with genuine issues.  And yes the recent explosion in trans trwmders needs further study, in my opinion.

still learning's picture

I'm with you bearcub, there are so many "memos" I haven't gotten about the proper way to address certain people.  Now there are preferred pronouns everywhere I go. In every zoom meeting, we have to introduce ourselves and our preferred pronouns.  I'm so tempted to say "they/them" and see how people address me and see their reactions to my offense when they get it wrong.   

bearcub25's picture

In zoom meetings?  I'm glad I work with are old, normal hillbillies lol.  Guess I need to get out of the hollars more often.

tog redux's picture

I'm a liberal in a blue state who works in human services, and I will push back on anyone who tries to make me tell my pronouns anywhere. That should be a choice, not an obligation.  I have a couple staff who do it in their email signature, I think mostly because they have gender-neutral names, or foreign names, and want people to know what to call them. 

caninelover's picture

I would decline also.  I do have an ethnic first name and do get misgendered in initial emails but it doesn't bother me.

tog redux's picture

I just looked and 3 of my staff have it - one who has a gender-neutral name, one has an ethnic name (like that better than foreign), and the other who has a female name.  

MissK03's picture

Bratty and her demands! I WANT WHAT I WANT!  They are the best. Of course the therapist messed up and said "she" bratty wanted that to happen so she could strike. 

When SS17 was going to therapy with a new psychologist (SO really like this one too) they mentioned bringing me in. I was against it. I'm not the reason he acts the way he acts. Talk about BM and the damage she has done. Talk about his personality disorders after SO has tried parenting him to the best of his ability. Why do I have to get dragged into a mess I didn't create... that was my stand. 

Then COVID hit and he hasn't been back since. Would it have helped .. meh doubtful. 

caninelover's picture

If nothing else I feel like it I gave it my all.  In the end, we ended up in a more real place even if that place is not the happy blended Brady Bunch land.

IDontCare3117's picture

THAT'S IT!  I've had it.  I now demand everyone call me a gyno homo sapien.  I believe it is misogynistic for anyone to refer to me as female, woman, lady, or ma'am.  Mistress Bitch is still acceptable, surprisingly enough. 

caninelover's picture

I actually once read 'non-menstrating people' or 'menstrating people' to be pollitically correct.  How insulting for identities to be whittled down to whether Aunt Flo comes to visit or not.  I suppose older women who don't menstrate at all anymore are...no one?

tog redux's picture

Yeah, I feel invisible.    *sad*

What a weird way to categorize people - if you're going to do that, then just use the names we already have for those groups of people - ie, "men" and "women". 

caninelover's picture

I need one Smile

caninelover's picture

with Bratty if she ever finds this LOL.  Me most of all  HAHAHAHAH

IDontCare3117's picture

Considering a lot of us are middle aged gyno homo sapiens, she'd lose the 2 or 3 marbles she has left.  You know how scary and intimidating we are.

advice.only2's picture

It amazes me that Bratty who doesn't speak to you or give you any insight into her life, wants you to act in a motherly fashion and house her after all her cosmetic surgeries. You must have a very high patience threshold to entertain even more therapy with her.

caninelover's picture

Bratty is so amazing and wonderful I should jump at the chance to mother her wonderful special self given my barren childless existence.

Um, no thanks Bratty.

acef92's picture

"I thought you could be my stepmom" LOL!!! I can't believe  Bratty's behavior... how can you manage all of this? How can you tolerate Bratty? Is insane... 

caninelover's picture

without her!  Exactly - she is just too much and it was exhausting.

justmakingthebest's picture

She/He/Them- Is just too much. Too much drama, too much energy. I would have to step back and tell DH that he is on his own with this nonsense. You are not her recovery resort, you are not her home. She is a grown adult. (Sorry I used She- SD means I write she). 

caninelover's picture

I'm at a place in my life where I've created a calm future.  Her life is not calm and its too stressful for me to deal with her.

Harry's picture

She changes stories faster then people change there underwear.  You will never win or will never be right or never have control.  Good for you.  Do not let yourself down. She must move out. Not go to your parents to make everyone holiday a horror show.  
 

caninelover's picture

Though I don't need to 'win' or be 'right'.  I do, however, require reality and that is something Bratty does not see.

Stepdrama2020's picture

You didnt want to be her stepmom?  Wonder why  *ROFL*

Hands down you win the unfortunate prize for the brattiest drama queen SD, er I mean king? Oh hell what would she/he/it be called ?

 

caninelover's picture

And I swear, she said it like she was offering me this big gift.  I was cringing and wanted to vomit.

Stepdrama2020's picture

Perfecto Drama Monarch !!!

Kaylee's picture

I laughed out loud at the bit where "they" demanded to go to your parents house for Christmas! 

That would have been a hard NO from me as well. The cheek of it! 

Ex SD never came to my family's home. I would never allow it. She is rude, entitled, disrespectful etc. Also, she told her dad that "old people are so boring" and she wanted him to take her overseas for Christmas....

caninelover's picture

It wasn't even like Bratty pretended to want to get to know me or my family.  She was bored and lonely and therefore should be included!

IDontCare3117's picture

Call me old fashioned, but if she's bored and lonely at the holidays, why doesn't she just drink????  That's what mature people do.

caninelover's picture

She comes up with this stuff while stone sober.  That's really scary.

caninelover's picture

It would have to be a vegan pizza hahaha

IDontCare3117's picture

Hold up.  This is Bratty we're talking about.  Do you honestly think she'd pull the vegan card without witnesses for a holiday pizza?  I think not.  

caninelover's picture

By herself she would probably order an extra cheese double meat lovers pie!

bananaseedo's picture

OMG Cauli pizza was invented by Satan I say- add Vegan cheese, that's not even for the dogs.....that ish is gross!

Wilhelm's picture

Think where you were at 22. Why do some 22 year olds seem so much younger? It seems like they are unaware they are adults with responsibilities.

caninelover's picture

Spoiler alert:  Bratty thinks they are a 14 year old boy and believes that entitles her to not have adult expectations placed on her.

Kaylee's picture

That's a very good point. At 22, I was on my OE, living and working in the UK and travelling around Europe.

I left home at age 16 and moved to another town where I got my first job. I know times have changed, the world is different etc, but I really think too many parents cosset and mollycoddle their kids, and don't prepare them for living independently as adults. 

We were brought up strictly but fairly, and there was a clear expectation that once we finished high school we would either get a job or go to university. We were NOT going to stay at home, expecting our parents to support us.

caninelover's picture

Except we had until after college.  

This generation thinks it is inhumane to expect them to support themselves until their late 20's.  Even if they had a paid-for college degree with no loans like Bratty.  I had hellish loans to repay and still managed to thrive.

Kaylee's picture

Surely these therapists must see straight away that they are dealing with "poor little me" narcissists? 

Ex and his daughter went to therapy because of her "precarious mental health" 

They went to three sessions together, until he had enough and refused to go any more. I asked what happened, and he said that it didn't seem worthwhile, as instead of trying to get her to expand on her perceived problems the therapist just sat there listening to SD's list of complaints about her life, her dad, her half sister, her paternal family, me....

The therapist more or less just said "there, there" and patted her on the head. Well that's according to my ex, anyway.

caninelover's picture

Was they knew Bratty had significant issues and therefore handled her with kid gloves.  Afraid of fundamentally breaking her, and possibly a lawsuit?

Kaylee's picture

She really has nothing to complain about either....lives in a lovely home where EVERYTHING is paid for by Daddy. But no, it's "oh I have a shit life"

caninelover's picture

Is paid for by me.  Daddy pays me rent.  LOL.

Daddy paid her tuition and her crappy room and board at school.  Now she's on her own for (most) of that.

 

Kaylee's picture

Good on you for being firm about not letting her back permanently into your home!

YOUR HOME. Your safe place, your haven.

caninelover's picture

I am in the process of converting her old room to a Whiskey lounge.  SO loves it.  Bye bye Bratty.

caninelover's picture

As do yours Wicked.  Hugs for your blog, your courageous for making a choice when other can't!

bananaseedo's picture

Just read this absolute garbage/nonsense  Gender Identity Terms | LGBTQ+ | Young Scot  -somehow the link didn't come up.  I'm sorry but i will never give into this madness.  If you are trans and identify as male or female, yes, absolutely -that is where my open-mindedness draws the line.  I think it's all made up shit that just further mentally disorders these kids.  

Ok, for example I read this stupidity:  

Cisgender  A person whose gender identity and biological sex assigned at birth are the same. For example they were born biologically as a male, and express their gender as male.  

Does that not just mean my gender is effing MALE?   WTH??? I have a dic* and feel like a boy- so I'm MALE not 'cisgender'- again, it's just pure nonsense.  

 

 

KC is not the stepmother's picture

I like "assigned at birth" like the delivery room nurse is pulling a name from a hat. 

I Need A Bubble Bath's picture

Reading your posts are like peering into my future. Luckily, I found a therapist that is also someone who I know from my past (it's our secret) and she knows me well enough to call BS on SS and his bat-shit crazy BM when she tries to interfere. BM actually went to court and tried to convince the judge to either stop the sessions or allow her to be able to sit in on our family sessions, this was of course after she claimed SS was suicidal because of me and DH. WE started sessions to have him evaluated for sucidal tendoncies and the therapist said, "He is the most well adjusted child I have ever met, as long as his mother isn't around." 

I dread the next 5 1/2 years of drama. 

Hugs to you and what you are dealing with.