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How much of SMs personal info does BM have access to?

Bio-Step-Mom's picture

This will be the first year that DH and I file taxes together as I just made way too much last year for us to file separate. There would be a shitload of money owed to the IRS. But I really don't want BM (moreso the exW) to have any of my personal info. And I know with my own CS battles with my bio kids' dad, the court docs always had ALL of our info (mine, ex and the other BM).

Will filing together make my ssn, employer and salary available to BM?

***ETA:
Background: DH has older kids who had a CS order in place but during the divorce the standing order was ignored and CS was ordered for younger ss. Now with both orders, 60% of DHs gross income goes towards CS. Approximately $400/mo of younger ss order was for childcare. SS is no longer in daycare and DH was hoping for modification based on that.

I was asking because I ASSUME there will need to be income verification to determine modification...and I don't want my info in BM or her attorney's hands. I love my husband to death but not enough to have my income count towards CS! Biggrin

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Bio-Step-Mom's picture

Thanks all.

exW BM is in a state that has it written that a stepparents income can be used to calculate "household income". I would go batshit crazy if my income were to be used in any CS calculations...

Harleygurl's picture

I even went so far as to tell the doctor's office, because SS7's insurance is provided by me, that under no circumstances are they to release any of my info to BM. DH and I had to complete some forms and she was to be provided a copy. I stood there and made sure the copy didn't include my information. BM has asked for my SSN and I always ask her who needs the info and I will call them myself.

Bio-Step-Mom's picture

I don't want ANY of my info made available.

Not my ssn. Not my bio kids' ssn. Not my gross income. NOTHING. Which is why I haven't filed with him before now...because I wasn't certain.

Bio-Step-Mom's picture

They are going to court next month for modification. Our attorney is not confident that there will be a change

Background: DH has older kids who had a CS order in place but during the divorce the standing order was ignored and CS was ordered for younger ss. Now with both orders, 60% of DHs gross income goes towards CS. Approximately $400/mo of younger ss order was for childcare. SS is no longer in daycare and DH was hoping for modification based on that.

I was asking because I ASSUME there will need to be income verification to determine modification...and I don't want my info in BM or her attorney's hands. I love my husband to death but not enough to have my income count towards CS! Biggrin

Bio-Step-Mom's picture

Thanks Smile

Cocoa's picture

bm will never have any info of mine. I own a business and my dh and I file married filing separate. yes, it is a hit come tax time, but unless i'm faced with jail time I will never turn over my taxes. we plan on amending our tax returns (I believe we can go back 3 years) when the youngest ages out, and maybe re-coup some of our money. i'm terrified my state will soon become one of those that count step parents' income when calculating child support. as it is, my state can take into consideration money that is freed up for my dh because I pay household bills. I would probably divorce my dh before I submit my taxes to court.

Bio-Step-Mom's picture

See. That's my problem.

One of my friends said, "they can't take your income".

Well not DIRECTLY but indirectly they can. If they decide DH needs to pay even more, that leaves me covering more of our bills - which I already pay 75% of. No. No. No.

QueenBeau's picture

You can black out all of your info. They only care about DH's gross income, not yours. So for me, I could leave my name showing on the line but black out all the rest of the info. That way they were SURE the blacked out lines were mine. I would also back out total income.

Cocoa's picture

what if the court would not accept this? that's what i'm afraid would happen, so we are very cautious and willing to pay the extra hit at tax time and if it turns out to be needless, then we erred on the side of caution. besides, if dh and I weren't married, our tax burden would be the same. we're just missing out on all those luscious credits (for now).

Bio-Step-Mom's picture

TheSaneOne and QueenBeau the state that the order was issued in *IS* one that can consider the stepparents income as "household income"

QueenBeau's picture

Yeah, DH & I wouldn't be married lol.

Is that at all times? Or is it only under 'extreme circumstances?'

I know in some states they can do that but only if the bioparent doesn't work & lives off the rich stepparent or w/e.

& I would imagine if the state wants to know your income for the calculation it wouldn't matter if you filed together or separate. They will request your tax return if you file separate.

Bio-Step-Mom's picture

If I knew half the things NOW that I knew before getting married...

Yeah. Hindsight and all that jazz.

We do not live in that state. But the order is from that state and BM and SS live in that state. So that state governs.

In *my* state both bio parents' income is counted to figure CS for the NCP...but he is obviously under the jurisdiction that issued the order and they are stupid. Wink

"... law considers that if a non-custodial parent remarries and his new spouse earns significant income, more of his own earnings are freed up for the support of his children."

and

"...legislature is contemplating changing to a different child support formula that would take stepparents’ incomes into consideration even more..."

herewegoagain's picture

hmmm…so you never complained or did anything to NOT have access to your ex's wife's SSN and info, but now you are wondering how to protect yours?

Bio-Step-Mom's picture

What is your question?

I don't have an exwife...my DH does. I don't care what info of HIS she accesses as I'm sure after being married she has his ssn somewhere...I don't want her accessing MY info.

herewegoagain's picture

By the way, why do you do this? I would just fill out SEPARATE forms for the purposes of CS…it is NONE of their business what your income is or your information…DH and I did this before. We filed together but when idiots at CS office wanted tax forms, we made a NEW tax form with all his info as if he had filed separately. Most states take into account CS based on single payor filing separately, with those deductions…The CS office is NOT going to go ask the IRS for the ones submitted, otherwise, they would do it without even asking you for the forms.