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50/50 custody, coparenting, and the toll on new relationships

AlexandraL's picture

My BF didn't want his divorce, BM did. I understand him being angry about losing his marriage and not being able to see SD every day.

They have a 50/50 custody situation and are big into "coparenting". The thing is, if you have issues related to differences on child rearing which contributed to your divorce, how are you REALLY supposed to coparent effectively?

Does anyone feel this is also the WORST arrangement if you want to get remarried? In my case, BF/BM are very focused on SD. In many ways at times it feels like their "coparenting" is a continuation of their marriage.

Although I understand, it is very hard for me to see how people with a 50/50 custody situation can think that their new SO/spouse will be able to easily adjust to them holding this pseudo-family/coparenting/marriage continuation equal or higher than the relationship with their new partner.

I'm divorced and my exH is remarried. He has a separate life with his wife, I have my own life with BF -- we're not continuing our marriage via our kids. If an issue comes up, we'll communicate. It's different with BF and BM because EVERYTHING is important...after all, it's SD, the center of the Universe.

I feel bad that this bothers me, but I feel I cannot have a separate life with BF d/t his situation. I am wondering if it is some shortcoming in me or whether having a separate relationship/marriage when a 50/50 situation is in place is realistic. I don't really think it is. The 50/50 relationship is the most important, or at least equal with the marriage with these people...which is fine, if that is the arrangement you want with your ex spouse and child(ren) but it seems an awful lot to ask of a new person.

I don't think my ex could handle his new wife having an exH and kids that he has to deal with EOD and I'm obviously having issues of my own.

I am sorry I am going on and on...I'm just extremely frustrated. I don't know how any relationship can work when it's not the top priority and I am not sure how any woman can feel good essentially when for all practical purposes he's nurturing a relationship with his ex and that this relationship affects decisions in your own home.

I don't think it is for me. I know parents do what they think is best, but I don't think 50/50 arrangements are good for kids. I think that parents who choose this arrangement cannot keep their coparenting relationship as their top priority and successfully have a relationship.

If you can't put your marriage first then you know, these people should not get involved. If your child's happiness and coparenting with an ex spouse is your main priority, then that is fine, don't bring someone else into the situation and expect them to be happy with it.

Note to self...do not date men with only children, esp. daughters. Do not date men with 50/50 custody situations.

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GiGi222's picture

Alexandra,
I have been following your blog posts since I have been a member here. I have read after you cried, broke up, got back together, moved out, moved on, etc.
The problem here is your BF. Point blank. He has no desire to change anything about him because he doesn't think he is doing anything wrong. The issue isn't his parenting, or lack thereof, the issue is his regard for your feelings. There isn't any. You have MOVED out. And nothing has changed. The only sigh of relief is that you don't see SD much, but when she is around with him you aren't the most important thing on his mind. He doesn't call you when he is with her. He continues the codependent relationship he has with BM even though he knows that he hurts you. He knows you don't like what he is doing, believe me he has heard you. The fact that it continues is a sign.
I'm sorry to be so harsh, hun. But I have watched you battle this over and over, physically and mentally. And the reality is is that you may not get the life you want with this man. Are you okay with that?

PrincessFiona's picture

I think what you are experiencing has less to do with the 50/50 custody arrangement and more to do with the continuation of the previous "family".

I have a 50/50 situation and we don't as much co-parent as parallel-parent. We are both remarried and don't communicate much unless there is a need. In fact when we first divorced there was a RO in affect that prevented any contact/communication. Yet our kids thrive on the constant contact with both parents.

It sounds to me like these people are not ready to face the reality of divorce. I'm sorry you have to be collateral damage to that.

CrystalRE's picture

I can symapthize.

My husband treated his children like the "immaculate ones"...he did everything for those children and they could do no wrong. He put off his needs, my needs, everything so he didnt disappoint those kids. When BM wanted to go on a date, we took the kids...our time or not. When BM didnt want to take the kids to the dentist, he did it...our time or not. When she needed extra financial support, he gave it to her, when she got dumped he listened to her cry because it kept her from taking it out on the kids. Give me a break!

I tried for nearly 5 years to get my husband to understand that he could never have a normal life with ANY other woman behaving like that. It came at the expense of so many things and I STILL resent him for it in a way. In the end it wasnt me who convinced him it was the fact that BM found a man who didnt approve of the relationship they had. I think 50/50 custody can work but I think it takes rare and special people to make it work.

blondie66's picture

You got it, girl!

That's exactly how I felt about our 50/50. In my case, BM did not want a divorce and did everything in her power to keep him from leaving. When we married, she just tripled her efforts. My DH has also acted (and still does, but hides it better now) as if his kids are center of the universe, which gives BM ample opportunity to take advantage of the situation, to "co-parent", which is really a fancy word for "stay in your ex's life as long as you wish and as much as you like".
That all got old to me pretty darn fast.
It's been 5 years now, the kids are older, the situation is slightly easier to endure, but talk about the toll on my marriage! Ugh. Too many arguments to mention.
Who am I to say "RUN" to you (obviously I didn't). But if you can - RUUUUN!
Or prepare to claw yourself and your marriage out of the dark hole someone calls "coparenting".
BTW, I also have an X who has zero bearing on my parenting of our 4 children (great kids!). So I say BS for all the contact between exes for the "sake of the kids".

herewegoagain's picture

I agree 100% with you! What makes me laugh even more is they ate so focused on their coparenting relationship for the sake of the kids, or so they claim...yet maybe they should've stayed together and worked on their marriage for the sake of the kids. It's amusing that they divorce and took their own feelings into account and not the kids to divorce, but then expect new partners to put their feelings aside and the kid's feelings first...talk about passing the buck!

Mich811's picture

It's a good question, and since I am a stepmom in a 50/50 arrangement I think about it a lot.

In our case, I think there are big positives for the kids (frequent access to their dad, a sense that their dad is concerned/involved on an on-going, scheduled basis, etc.) but there are also huge negatives (more separations/transitions, a sense of instability from moving constantly between homes). I really don't know.

Personally, I don't know what I'd pick if I were a BM negotiating with a soon to be exDH. As a stepmom, though...I really think it is a very difficult arrangement for a stepparent. It's almost too little time to really establish rules and order, but too much time to feel excited about the visits. Would I do it again? In my case, yes. DH is wonderful, and the kids (or SD, at least) are fun. Would I wish it on my sister or best friend...probably no.

AlexandraL's picture

Exactly Mich. My SD has major issues with separation anxiety and she's in the second grade. I don't know how she manages being flip flopped back and forth. Quite honestly, I'd rather he have full custody than 50/50 so we could feel like we had more control and maybe could develop more of a relationship. EOW really won't solve the situation either, because BF and BM will still be "coparenting" over SD since she's their focus to a fault...or at least that's how it's been...

Mich811's picture

yeah, i totally agree. i wish we had 100% custody so that we could actually establish order and regularity in our home. would be MUCH better than what we've got. also, it would help DH relax a bit, and realize that he doesn't have to be totally engaged every moment with his children.

my sd5 has massive separation problems. she freaks out every single morning before school, crying and hysterical. she is in kindergarten. it worries me for the future.

in your case, it sounds like his guilt is ruining his life.

AlexandraL's picture

It's sad because BM cheated and left him. He shouldn't feel guilty at all. But, SD has what I think is a symbiotic relationship with her mom, and he's felt afraid of losing SD's affection, since she's so close to her mom, and he doesn't want to lose his daughter.

I get it.

Yes, SD was like that in kindergarten and also in first grade at different times. Despite seeing her mom every day, she will still cry for BM at times when she's with BF. How can you miss your mom to that degree when you see her every day? I don't get it.

AlexandraL's picture

I know you all are right. I guess I was checking to see if it was a problem with me. I think 50/50 is hard, but it could be a lot easier to manage if things were prioritized correctly.

I guess I've been hesitating because he hasn't been clear with me in the way I need -- I think because he doesn't want to admit to himself and to me, that his real priority now, and for at least the next five years, is his daughter -- and maintaining good communication/coparenting with BM for SD's sake. He also doesn't want to admit it to himself and me because he knows I will leave.

On my side, I guess I haven't listened to what he HAS said because I know he loves me and it's hard for me to reconcile that he can't or doesn't want to put us first...because I know that once I know that, I have to leave, and I really do love him.

I need to figure out a way to get my question answered in a clear way. At this point, I just need him to be really honest with himself and me so I can move on. That being said, he has already said it...I guess I just haven't wanted to hear it or have been afraid of seeing things wrong and throwing our relationship away.

I've wanted him to say "Alex, I want this to work and am willing to do anything to make it work" not "yeah...but..."

He says over time we can be the top priority but I can't move forward without knowing our relationship is the top priority. Does that make sense? We're deadlocked and I am exhausted. Tired of feeling angry and irritated, frustrated...

Mommyto1Stepto2's picture

I've been in both situations - my ex-husband had kids from a previous marriage and really had nothing to do with his ex-wife. He'd have the kids once a week maybe and only talked to her when necessary. Fast forward to now, my husband has kids from a previous marriage that we see about 30% of the time. Him and BM are CONSTANTLY negotiating schedules, communicating, and doing whatever "for the sake of the kids". They call it co-parenting but I don't really think letting BM do whatever she wants could actually be considered "co-parenting". Which was easier? Definitely the first situation FOR ME.

AlexandraL's picture

Stepmomto2, no worries, you're not hurting me. I have to agree with you. He has admitted to having a separate bubble/unit with SD and BM and that he's felt like he's betraying SD by breaking that unit and starting a new one with me -- even though he knows its wrong to feel that way.

It's not like he's bending over backwards for SD and BM anymore...it's more the FEELING that I'm second, and he's very focused on SD plus he's pretty much said that our relationship is second. He tells me that I shouldn't worry, that it will be a rare situation where BM will excute her "veto power" if we were living together, but how can you live with someone knowing their ex has veto power? Again, I am not sure how that would play out in terms of a situation, but I feel uncomfortable knowing he's so focused on his daughter. Maybe it is an only child thing, idk, because I have kids and I am not that way. Maybe it is different now. I'm just going by how I feel and I remember how things were. He said he catered to her when we were together because he knew if SD had issues with our relationship it would be bad for us, so putting her first and catering to her was an attempt to protect our relationship.

What really happened is it made me dislike SD and resent BF...and it didn't protect our relationship -- it's destroyed it. I do realize his intentions were good though, just sad how things have gone down...

herewegoagain's picture

Crazy witch used to think she could tell dh & I where we could go on the eow visitation...since DH allowed her I made it clear he could allow her to control his life but not mine! So i went out without sd or dh...he finally stopped allowing her to tell him what to do!