Elizabeth's picture

Nervous today

Today husband and lawyer meet with BM and her lawyer to hash out custody and CS arrangements for SD15. I am so mad we have to pay CS, after four years with primary custody of SD with NO CS. The CS was a condition of BM taking SD, unfortunately, and she will get it. Now we have to determine how much.

I am worried my husband won't say or do the right thing to keep CS to a minimum. We can barely make ends meet as it is, and if we'd been getting CS it would have made things so much easier.

frustratedinMA's picture

I am so sorry to hear

I am so sorry to hear this... Perhaps if DH rolls over for the bM then he can go get a second job... esp since he doesnt spend his free time w/bd's, might as well take away the free time he spends w/sd15.

I will hope for you guys that the courts take into account the lack of support you two received for the past 4 yrs.

SerendipitySM's picture

Elizabeth, I completely

Elizabeth, I completely agree with Frustrated. The court needs to be "reminded" that your DH has a family with you and your BDS and that he is only capable of paying the minimum. This sort of thing just makes no sense to me whatsoever, yet another doublestandard in the wonderful world of blended families. However if he doesn't have the stones to stand up for himself and your family then he should be the one to go and get a 2nd and 3rd job in order for your little ones to have the same type of care that the beloved 15 yr old is getting.

bellacita's picture

it prob wont matter anyway

since when do the courts care about the NCPs "new" or "2nd" family??? they dont...look at whats happening w unknown and her family. its sad what they do to these poor guys who are just trying to have a family w their new wives.

Sita Tara's picture

Is that different for NCP?

or State to state? Because when DH had shared parenting and we paid 500 a month, our attorney told us they do count the BP's additional children (not step which is stupid, especially since I only get 200 a month for both my sons, obviously DH is supporting them as well.)

So I would definitely ask your lawyer about that one.

"Om Tare Tutare Ture Mama Ayurpunye Jnana Putin Kuru Svaha"
~Sita Tara Mantra

bellacita's picture

when we were at court

the GAL did the child support worksheet and he gave FH a "break" for raising SS by himself...it was less than $200 a month...no where near the state guidelines for one child...SD in this case is "entitled to a standard of living" of $800 a month, not including daycare.
now this was a son from a prior marriage though. when we have a baby, i dont know if that will count bc they say u cant have more kids to reduce the "financial burden to the first". there is no space on the worksheet for it either...just here though...

ColorMeGone2's picture

My state takes other children into account.

When BM took DH back to court for more, she ended up with far less. About $500/month less. (He was paying over $1300/month for two kids and it dropped to $800/month.) Since the original amount was established, he'd had two more kids with me and yes, they did enter into the equation. The main reason ours dropped so much, though, was because BM was making so much more than DH. I think the way it's calculated in our state is pretty fair. It takes second families into consideration and also both parents income and earning potential.

Some states, though, are not so fair and some judges are just way too biased in favor of the mother. We really need one federal law and one federal agency that determines how CS is calculated and how CS and visitation are enforced. Leaving it to the states is crazy, especially when so many NCPs and children live in different states and when the cost-of-living in these states varies. At one point, BM lived in a low cost-of-living state and we lived in the highest cost-of-living state. Our dollar didn't stretch anywhere near as far as hers did during that time and the amount was a killer. We've moved and are in much better shape now, but still. It's not true that five hundred bucks is five hundred bucks. It may be enough to support a kid living in, say, southside Virginia, but it's not anywhere near close enough to support a kid living three hours away in the DC area. CS should be decided the way BAH is decided, with all dependents and the cost-of-living taken into consideration.
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Elizabeth's picture

I just don't understand

Why we get NO CS for the past four years but BM gets it from now on. I just don't think that's fair, and it irritates the crap out of me.

Plus, I feel like some of the women on here who are forced (through CS) to spend so much on the stepkids that they and the biokids go without. That already happens at our house, so having to pay CS will just make it worse.

I am already anticipating the next major battle with husband over NOT giving in to BM's constant requests for money once we're paying CS. If she's going to file for CS but not pay us anything, then CS is ALL she's getting. No more $600 for volleyball, and next will be money for a car.

Sita Tara's picture

Did you have legal physical custody then?

Or did SD just come to live there?

If you had legal physical custody, then I would look into suing for back child support. That oughta get her goat and make it even.

"Om Tare Tutare Ture Mama Ayurpunye Jnana Putin Kuru Svaha"
~Sita Tara Mantra

bellacita's picture

elizabeth

its definitely not fair, and a huge double standard. if it ends up that u pay CS, then yes, she JUST gets CS...thats what its for...all of that stuff. Dh is not a money train, hes the FATHER. thats what these women lose sight of and its sickening.

NoDoormat's picture

Outcome??

Just wondering what happened ?

Elizabeth's picture

Meeting is going on right now

I sent him there in a bad mood (we got in an e-mail "discussion"), so hopefully he is taking that out on BM and fighting for me and our two biokids, for once. We'll see...

laurels4u's picture

Did it work?

I have been known to incite small riots before stuff like this, too; however, it's damn sad when we have to resort to such tactics to get what we need and more importantly deserve. Did your DH file for CS and she refused to pay it? Or was he trying to be the nice guy and let her off the hook?

I'd research suing for back support if I were you, but if you're in PA, forget it. We already did explore the possibility, and it can't be done. Maybe you live in state where it's possible to go for back CS.

frustratedinMA's picture

How about today?? Any word

How about today?? Any word on what happened??

Elizabeth's picture

Update, still in limbo

OK, everyone who is interested, the meeting went OK per my husband. (Wish I could have been there as I am much more detail-oriented.) He said our lawyer did great, up to the last five minutes and then she just sort of fell apart.

Several things I heard from my husband that I do not like:
* BM said she doesn't need support from him. Great, right? But then she had a whole list of "other" things she wants him to pay for.
* Evidently they didn't hammer out the change in custody, so we are still supposed to have SD15 every other weekend and one full week a month for the summer. Yuck.
* We are going to be paying money to the BM, how much we don't yet know.

By saying she doesn't need support, BM can justify not paying us support for the past four years. And she can tell SD that daddy does not support her.

BM wants husband to pay SD's car insurance, for one thing. This I don't get. My husband is under the impression that SD's parents MUST provide the car insurance. But we aren't legally required to pay this for the bio children who live with us. How is this fair? Why is it that children of divorced parents have MORE rights than children of parents who stay together?

We are waiting to receive the proposal from our lawyer, and then I will know the details.

laurels4u's picture

Doesn't that just take the cake!

I've heard nearly the same exact BS from my DH's ex. She doesn't need the support, at least that's what she said a year ago. And she said it over and over again. Here we are a year later and she certainly wasted no time filing for CS after she got the kid living with her.

DH was so PROUD of himself at their CS hearing when the mediator said to DH, "You owe $800 a month!" and BB piped up with, "I don't need THAT much but I'll take $400." WTF-ever. I'm still waiting for the court order to come in the mail to see what exactly DH agreed to.

Unlike you, I never could've sat through a hearing with either DH or BM. My mouth would've landed me in the poke or else I would've brandished my stupid stick on both of their heads.

As far as the car insurance goes, call your agent and find out what their policy states about adding her or providing her with a policy. I'd bet BM wants your DH to pay for it because she's already checked into it, and she knows how expensive it's going to be.

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