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Annoyed1's picture

So, my "DH" and me went to pick up his 2 boys (ages 12 and 10). His ex has another child from her now ex husband who is a 6 year old girl. Anyways, we've NEVER taken the girl in the past while she (my DH's ex) was married. Well, this all changed when they got divorced and she came to drop off the boys and asked if HER daughter could stay with us also (did I mention that she asked my DH in front of all the kids?!?!?). We ended up taking the girl for the weekend because it was easter and the boys wanted her to stay. IT WAS A ONE TIME THING!!! I made that perfectly clear to my "DH". Well, it's been a couple of months now and we went to go pick up his boys and as they were getting in the vehicle, the were saying bye to their sister. She looked sad and pouty. As we were pulling away from the house my "DH" says IN FRONT OF HIS BOYS, "awwww, she wanted to come too. She looks so sad". Now we're fighting again, because I made it CRYSTAL clear last time that his is NOT that childs dad and still he wants to let her come over. I told him that if he wants to go back and get her, that he might as well stay and play house with his ex and all her kids. Any thoughts?!? I'm just so sick of him not wanting to have kids with me, but is down to take care of his ex's kid that isn't even his!!!!!!!!!!! What an asshole!!!!!! I feel like I'm nobody to him! We've been together for 8 years now, and it seems like nothing is ever going to change!!!!

Orange County Ca's picture

You want kids? Are you still able? If yes find a husband who is willing. I'm surprised you placed yourself in that situation.

I'm sorry but I'd take the girl. Whether or not you like it or not she is the boys sister and its best all around that they stay together.

bi's picture

the girl will not grow up damaged because she didn't get to join her brother on his visits to his dad. what the hell is your problem?

Annoyed1's picture

But the thing is, she has NEVER come to our house before in 6 years, and now that her dad is gone, it's like my DH's ex see's my DH as a good dad and now wants him to be father of the year to all her spawn!!! It's ridiculous! It would have been different if she was coming over before, but just because her dad is gone, doesn't mean that my DH is supposed to step to the plate for kids that have NOTHING to do with him.

As for the whole wanting kids... he's always wanted more kids and I was the one that was unsure. I was in school and was young, but now I'm 30 and finished school and know that I want a family of my own! Now he's the one putting it off and he's unsure. It's frustrating! I just don't like the fact that he'll step up for his ex for a kid that's not even his, but won't see things from my point of view.

ownedbypedro's picture

This woman sent her child to spend EASTER with people who are NOT her parents? Piece of work! You have EVERY right to lay down the law about this. Just say NO DAMN WAY and OH HELL NO!!!

Annoyed1's picture

Yeah, and my DH was never a step dad to this kid!!! They broke up 9 years ago (when his youngest son was 1) and she remarried and had the girl! It's just so frustrating that he gets mad at ME and calls ME the one being "petty"!!!!! Please!!!!

Annoyed1's picture

THANK YOU!!! That's exactly how I feel! It's nice knowing that I'm not crazy to feel the way I do!

twopines's picture

Good grief, no effing way am I OK with taking some random spawn of DH's ex just because DH thinks she looks sad. WTFever.

Annoyed1's picture

LOL!!!! PLEASE!!! Blum 3

I guess it is a guy thing, but it's easy for him to say because when HIS kids are here, guess whose taking care of them?!?!? Not him! I just can't see it from a guys point of view I guess. All I see is him being a doormat to his ex and me raising all of her children. NO THANKS! I can handle his boys, but he's never had any part of that girls life, and just because her dad left doesn't mean that MY man is going to father the girl too! She always put on a pouty face when we would pick up the boys, but what I don't understand is my "DH's" need to care now, and not before (when she had her dad in the picture). It just doesn't make any sense to me! I mean, if he wants to raise all of her kids, then why the heck doesn't he just get back with her and be one big happy family?!?!?

Annoyed1's picture

Lol!!! My "DH's" way of taking care of his kids is paying CS every month and playing xbox with them for hours on end when they're visiting! This weekend I plan on being as selfish as he says I am (yes, he said I was being selfish!) and he'll get to see how much work actually goes into having kids around!

Annoyed1's picture

That's a great idea!!! It's supposed to be a hot day, so I just may have to take my self to the beach to check out some "scenery"! Lol! One can dream...

twopines's picture

I definitely agree with letting him do all the work. All these guys can look much more noble if they actually take care of the sad pouty-faced kids they are trying to be father figures to, LOL!

Annoyed1's picture

I am letting him do all the work (so far)! He made us supper tonight (pre-made frozen) and now the kitchen is a DISASTER!!! I don't know how long I can handle the mess... :O

guiltystepmom's picture

unacceptable....and ur hubby should be embarrassed...already u have to take care of HIS kids, u have to take care of another fish's kid...i dont think so! he's not thinking straight!

stepsonhatesme's picture

Well, my question would be....Is the father of the little girl coming to see her? If not then BM should spend that "quality" (LOL) time with her daughter. As in having a girls time while the boys are with you and DH.

Its not your DH responsibility!!!

Orange County Ca's picture

I can certainly agree with those step-mothers who complain that they would have to do all the work. If the bio-father isn't involved then a SM should not expected to patrol the neighborhood and pick up orphaned kids to bring home.

But the main response I see from SM's here is "HER kid HELL no". No reason given other than its HER kid. As if it was a waif on the street they'd at least consider it.

I'm the guy who is constantly telling steps that if they're doing all the work then the kid(s) should not be visiting. The whole point of the visitation is to be with Dad and if that isn't happening then no visit at all. Further I've been advocating disengaging since I employed it with my steps well over 20 years ago. I wish there was a way to find out who first introduced it to the Internet step-parent community.

As suggested I believe it is a male/female thing. Females seem far more ready to plow aside any children not of their own womb and a good number of them even their own when they can wreck some pain on their ex. Just as we need more education before becoming parents we need more before becomeing steps because many should never become parents and a huge majority should never become steps.

Annoyed1's picture

I have no problem watching HIS boys for him. I rather enjoy it sometimes (other than the lack of help on my DH's part). But why should I have to have more than HIS (my DH's) kids over? He had nothing to do with the little girl coming into this world and nothing to do with raising her. So, what you're saying is, I'm expected to watch (or at least let in my house) all of her kids and future kids, because they are 1/2 brothers/sisters of my 2 SS's?!?! That is absolute craziness!!

bi's picture

it has nothing to do with not coming from my womb. it has everything to do with i'm not taking in a kid that isn't a relative or friend of the family just because she has puppy dog eyes. am i supposed to take the neighbor kids to the zoo with us if they look sad when we leave, too?

janeyc's picture

What a damn cheek, its enough having his sons staying with you, but this girl as well, who has nothing to do with you, as for pouting all girls do that to get what they want, sometimes men don't get it the first times, if I had a pound for everytime my Bf says yes I agree and then does the opposite, I think you need to keep fighting your case, eventually he should get it. My Bf was also a Disney Daddy, now he realised how much I did and do, he has started to parent his children properly, but by God has it taken effort, rows, time and me threatening to leave, men can be so thoughtless.

Annoyed1's picture

Dogs are so much less complicated than kids! I have 2 furry kids and love them more than anything!

giveitago's picture

OMG! I would never spite a chld, regardless of what the adults do. The girl is a baby, 6 years old, I'd be in favor of maybe having her over once a month and on special occasions, to share them with her brothers. It's possible to make her understand that she cannot come every time, it does depend on how active her dad is in her life too. Like the other poster says a good male role model is important to a little girl. I'd be watching BM closely at the same time, if it's just that she wants to 'dump' the girl because she has plans I'd be taking NONE of them that weekend!
Let DH know that he is going to be responsible for the kids, all three, and you are going to spend just a couple of hours with them doing the fun stuff and he can do the cleaning up. The audacity of BM's is astounding at times! BM might need to hook herself another 'ticket' so it might just be helpful all round to have the girl visit...LOL then once another 'ticket' is found you will see it taper off. I get the little girl pouting thing, I know of very few men who can resist that...don't come down too hard on him for that...LOL

Annoyed1's picture

This little girl is NOT my DH's!! Why would he need/want to take her? The little girls dad left their mom and is not involved in her life at all. It happened about 3 months ago! I let her stay for easter because their mom was really stressed out and had no other options and asked in front of the kids (which is just petty if you ask me). My DH was never around for that girl and I'm not about to let him father every fatherless child in this world. If he wants to have more kids, I'm here for that... NOT his ex!

Annoyed1's picture

My thoughts exactly!!! And, the last (and only) time the little girl was here, she was so clingy and wanted all of MY attention! It was NO work for my DH at all! She is a cute kid and I'm not mean to her when I see her and I say hi, but I just don't want her in my house since she has NOTHING to do with my DH.

oneoffour's picture

No. Not happening. He can call you selfish and petty. So why doesn't he go to Exs house for the weekend and stay with her? Then all the kids can be with their parents.
Really, namecalling doesn't affect me anymore. Water off a ducks back. Bring it on and call me as many names as you can muster in one breath.

I would tell him she is welcome when you have a child of your own. Then it is completely in his court. If he argues then tell him why is it OK to take care of his wifes child (who he is not married to) but not a child with you (his wife)? And why would 12 yr old and 10 yr old boys want to be 'playing' with a 6 yr old girl?

Orange County Ca's picture

"...So why doesn't he go to Exs house for the weekend and stay with her? Then all the kids can be with their parents". oneoffour

Perfect solution. What about it SM's?

bi's picture

your unappreciated sarcasm is no longer a novelty around here. everyone is bored with your ridiculous comments. why don't you go kick rocks somewhere?

twopines's picture

Believe me, my DH is free to do whatever he sees fit to do. He also knows his actions have consequences. If he wants to go to the Ex's house for the weekend and stay with her so the sad pouty-faced girl can still be with DH's actual kids, then he can live with the consequence of that decision.

I hope he packed enough clothes, cuz he ain't coming back to my home. Smile

Annoyed1's picture

LOL!!!

Poodle's picture

No it's not a guy thing, you're not getting away with that OCC. You are not even an expert about guys. My DH was put in this exact situation by our BM who had another kid from another man long after their separation. Both DH and I could see coming the eventuality when this kid got palmed off with the others on us. This was because BM was lazy and wanted free childcare, she also wanted to hurt the other dad by putting the child far away during times he could have had her, she also wanted to manipulate all her children into bonding together with her as one unit that excluded all dads, she also wanted me to do extra work, and so on and so on and so on. The method used was the usual, her being put on the phone with a sweet little baby voice, her being presented at every handover for a kiss, the skids not understanding why she could not come over too, etc etc etc.
YOu have to look at the motive to the BM in all this. If the other kid is coming along as a friend would and all the adults are friends, then it's fine and absolutely acceptable, after all if we coparent our skids then of course we have their school friends round to play and stay. If, however, we are manipulated into it to suit the needs of the absent parent then no, the whole thing is unhealthy. But the real issue for my DH was this. If any accident happened to this third party's child when she was with us, then who was responsible? Who was he to approach if BM was unavailable? He would not be able easily to get hold of the real dad and then, his own children would be put in loco parentis when they were under-age. As far as he was concerned, that was unfair pressure on his kids. Never mind the possibility of allegations being made against either of us, further demands leading to even more extensive demands, and so on and so on.

I can vouch that my DH is the most adoring, most codependent sort of a parent when it comes to his kids, he would absolutely bend over backwards to put them before me and even his biokids with me, and he would cuddle any baby he saw on the street and do anything for any orphan, but, look after that sort of BM's other kid? HELL NO even he was not ready to do it. He knew it was aimed to damage his relationship with his wife and kids.

So stop attempting to talk for all men OCC.

And OP, if the BM is not obviously a manipulator meaning that you do not need to cite my DH's sort of reasons, it's simple: agree to his having all 3 of them but only on occasions when either you or he are staying elsewhere. That way, who cares -- if he wants to pick up the emotional tab, so be it. But, if he continues not to want a child when you do, time for a trial separation I would say.

Unfreakingreal's picture

My DH only has the 2 kids from the BM but he used to always try to bring along other kids on his weekends with Skids. His nieces and nephews. I let it slide a few times but after a while it got tired real quick. Eventually I just started saying NO. I get the whole "I wanna be a good uncle" thing, but seriously? I'm no ones day care center so NO, I don't want anyone elses kids at my house besides my DHs kids. So you are NOT wrong at all. These BMs are really a fucking piece of work aren't they?

ctnmom's picture

I can't believe no one has seen what I see in this post. Annoyed- your DH is still in love with his ex, or at the very least has some unresolved feelings. He's trying to impress her with his kindness- at your expense. Plus, this has got to be confusing for his boys- why on earth would their half sister suddenly, after six years, go to thier dad and SM's house?

Annoyed1's picture

^^^ This is exactly the way it is. Thank you for understanding and for the good advice Smile I appreciate having a place that I can vent my frustrations with people that understand (for the most part).

Annoyed1's picture

Hahahahaha!!!! Oh dear! If you only knew. He doesn't love her. That I know without a doubt. He is a good person and has a good heart. He is a sucker for the pouty face. I've been thinking about taking the girl so she can help me master the pouty face myself and get MY way all the time.

ctnmom's picture

Bur WHY did he feel bad? What tie on God's green earth does he have to this little girl other than his ex?