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What is the ENTITLEMENT all about?

Adult Stepchildren Issues

This has been a big issue for me and others, so I want to get your opinions and wisdom.

What is going on with the ENTITLEMENT that pervades the twenty-somethings these days??

I have 5 skids in late teens and 20s, and I am constantly amazed by their attitudes of entitlement. This is also an issue with the twenty-something biokids of co-workers I have spoken with.

My DH's crew (4 girls, 1 boy) was raised quite modestly in a middle-lower class area. Somehow, they grew to expect that their parents, family, and the world in general owes them a living. Here's a few examples of their misguided beliefs that I have run up against:

I don't need to go to college.
I deserve a good job, even with no training or education.
I deserve a management position even though I was just hired.
I don't have to work at all. That's for other people. Working is a choice and I choose not to.
I expect to get money from my parents when I ask for it. "You OWE it to me!"
I expect my parents will house me for free as long as I breathe.
I don't do housework. I don't cook. I don't shop for food. I don't care for the pets. I don't do chores. I don't contribute to the home in any way and that's OK.
I can take and use anything in the house, even if it doesn't belong to me.
I expect my parents to give me a car, pay for insurance, and pay for my tickets and towing.
I expect my parents will house not only me, but my BF or GF, and our kids for as long as I breathe.
I expect to go on all family vacations and have parents foot the bill.
I don't have to be polite, or civil, or every express gratitude for any of the help I receive. I am owed.

Oh I could go on, but you all get the point. Go ahead and add to the list if you wish! Honestly, when I was in my 20s, these thoughts didn't even enter my mind. In my parents generation I think a young adult with these sentiments would have been laughed at and then fed to the wolves.

So how has this entitled twentysomething generation come about? And why are there so darn many of them?

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sparky's picture

entitlement

The BS that I hear is they wanted their kds to have a better life than they had themselves. Therefore, they gave them everything and the kds never had to put forth any effort to get anything. I suppose the pot smoking generation raised the entitlement generation.

Sita Tara's picture

But...

I dabbled in a lot of trouble- was hanging out with the pot smokers...we didn't feel entitled and I didn't raise my kids to be so. I think there's more to it than that. I really think the whole culture of parenting changed to a "be careful of their self esteem or they'll become a drug addict,homeless, unemployed serial killer.

I just read a good article I posted on here a while back about how the whole "self esteem" movement is causing this. Teachers can't discipline with paddles like we grew up with, we are told we are neanderthals if we mention we spank our kids EVER...

My SD told me point blank "We know you'll never touch us, what consequences can you give us to really hurt us? Ground us? Take away our privilages? Big deal. I don't care. I will never have to be afraid of you because you can't touch me."

She said this while smirking. The shrink was appalled with her.

I have an appointment next week to discuss that visit. I'm really interested in what the shrink will have to say when it's just me. Though she was pretty straight forward to SD about her disgust with SD's attitude, I'm sure she had to edit some.
Peace, love, and red wine

That takes me back a few years. . .

When my step-daughters were much younger, I had full custody along with my then husband who I have since divorced. My step-daughters don't talk to their dad anymore, but consider me their only parent.

Anyway... I do remember an incident years ago where one of my step-daughters was really talking back to me. I had asked her to clean up her room and do her laundry. She was 13 at the time. She refused and when I threatened to ground her, she called me a few choice names to which I promptly gave her one swift whack on the ass. She threatened to call the police on me saying that it was illegal for parents to spank their children.

Know what I did??? I handed her the phone telling her to go right ahead and call them. I further stated "Do you know what will happen?"... They will probably take you away from me because I'm an unfit mother... and put you in foster care with people who don't care about you. You won't have your own room, your TV, private phone and all those lovely clothes that we work so hard to furnish you with. You will probably end up in a different school away from all your friends. If I want to get you back, I'll have to go to parenting classes and prove myself worthy to get you back... Well guess what sweetheart?... Call the police.. infact I'll dial the number for you myself.. But here's the catch.... if they show up and decided to remove you from your home, I'm not going to try and get you back.. you can stay in your foster home and just forget about your friends, your family and all the people who care about you.. because I won't lift a finger to get you back................ but either way, you WILL NOT talk back to me again!!

She pretty much changed her attitude Johnny on the spot. Ha!!!

By the way.. she grew up to be a lovely, gracious daughter and an excellent mother.

Oh the horrors of parenthood..

Jenny

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You are my hero!

I LOVE this story.

Where's the sitcom where the parents have all the right things to say?

All I see is crappy reality TV, or Nick shows where the parents are buffoons the kids run over on their way to coolness.

"Om Tare Tutare Ture Mama Ayurpunye Jnana Putin Kuru Svaha"
~Sita Tara Mantra

I got a good inkling

into what's behind the entitlement movement from my husband last night. He's 51, so about the age of parents with kids in their teens and 20s. I have a SD14 (his child), and she has been a thorn in my backside since we got married (6 years ago). However, this is primarily due to his parenting style.

He was raised with very little, and he resented that very much. So, now that he has a kid of his own, he wants her to have everything he didn't have. To the point of excess. He thinks that if one other kid in her class or peer group has something, she should have it to. He has said to me multiple times, "I want her to have everything the other kids have."

Hence the sense of entitlement. If I want it, I should have it. She informed her dad the other day that he would be buying her a car. When he said no (although I'm sure he'll pay for a large portion of the car), she said, "Fine. I'll just tell my grandpa and he'll buy me a car." No thought of working to earn it. Just who will give it to her.

I don't see this getting any better until this generation of kids grows up and becomes parents, if then.

I think a lot of kids in the

I think a lot of kids in the entitled generation don't even want to have any kids. That's what I've heard from a few of them. God forbid they'd have to sacrifice or work hard and support a child.

Sarah101's picture

Agree

I totally agree with you Elizabeth. The result of disposable income + parental guilt has created a whole new kind of monster. But what of the monsters who were not raised with a lot of material things?

Look out--your SD(14) may well turn into what I have to deal with--sniveling, petulant "adult" skids who blame me (of course!) their dad, and the unfair world for the fact that they are complete losers with no ambition and no future.

I can tell you I am wiped out from the energy needed to distance myself from their manipulative antics. My DH shrinks from the phone when it rings...but he always answers it and considers their latest verbal abuse and demands. Guilt runs deep.

It sounds like the kids are

It sounds like the kids are abusing the parents nowadays.

Articles

I've read articles that call the 20-somethings Generation Y, & they have a sense of entitlement. They go into the workforce & expect the best jobs, & employers are trying to accomodate them. They also expect to start out having everything they had at home... cable tv, all their furnishings & decor, all the new technological gadgets. Despite having jobs, they still lean on mom & dad a lot. I don't get it. It's like a sense of self accomplishment means nothing now. It's all about how much stuff you've got.

And they still call Generation X slackers! Sheesh.

Hipi

When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams can come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.

Also. . .

The parents want to treat their kids like babies and then like PALS instead of keeping the parent/child divide in tact.

Our BM was one of the first to be raised by her mom and treated as both a PAL and a BABY (coddled to death) she has ALWAYS been sheltered from any consequences of her actions.

Today's 20 somethings AND YOUNGER have that mindset; that mom and dad should be their safety net at all times; that mom and dad are their BUDDIES!

Yeah, REALLY...growing up my

Yeah, REALLY...growing up my parents were DEFINITELY not my friend. Holy cow. Every time my son complains about me, I tell him, "Well, I'm your parent, and it's my JOB". I really don't care if he's mad or angry if I make him clean his room, do a chore, etc. IT'S MY JOB!!!! UGH!!!! Wimpy parents are sickening.

We had FEAR of doing something really stupid and getting in trouble when I was a kid.

EXACTLY!

well put. I was scared out of my wits to do anything wrong or displease my parents in any way. there were no notes from school allowed! My job was to go to school, obey my parents and get good grades, not causing any trouble. I think the pendulum needs to swing back that way!

It is so sad

that this is so common, especially the "new rich". Maybe this is a broad bush, but I see this more common with kids from parents that were from a modest background, doing better than their parents and SHOWERING their kids with everything under the sun, to the detriment of the future (their retirement, the kids college education. These hardworking parents "pridefully" give their kids everything they didn't have and create monsters.

There are great lessons to be learned in the "struggle" to achieve.

I see many teenagers every day that are not "middle class" kids & they don't display the same arrogance.

My ss (at 25) asked my husband for money & when my husband told him that we had painting (WORK) to be done, he got angry & said that the reason for my husband's existence was to give him money. The bm gave them every gadget available because she could. She was very poor as a kid and this idiotic idea made her proud.

My kids were not brought up as beggars. They NEVER ask me for money. I never asked my parents for money. IT IS CALLED F... PRIDE.

Get a F***ing job!

So when do I get a computer. When you get a job. My parents did the best they could for me and my siblings, which wasn't much.

Have you ever noticed that this attitude does not exist from children of immigrants. I hazard a guess it's because their parents tell them how flipping lucky they are to live in a country with so much more opportunity then the one the immigrant parents left behind. And these kids have that I'm lucky attitude.

My spouse bought SD a scooter for no particular reason and I said to her, wow you are a lucky girl. And she said why and I said you got a scooter and it's not even your birthday. She kind of understood until her dad proceeded to inform her that she was, and I quote "entitled to get a fun toy for no reason, it's her right". Uhhh Dad, WTF are you doing? What's wrong with feeling lucky! Lucky to be in a good family, occasional treats, getting an education and having a future that only requires hard work, determination and a dream. What is so wrong with that?!

I'm one of those 20 somethings

However, my parents taught me that to have anything, YOU have to work for it. My parents were not rich by any means growing up. We did not have the latest and great gadgets or clothes, but you know what. I realize now that all that stuff does not really matter. i work everyday for the homes I own and the cars I drive. I went to college and worked 2 jobs to pay my own living expenses. Now, each month that I make that student loan payment, I feel proud that I did finish and can afford to have a nice life. I do not want my child to grow up anything like my skids. They have everything they could possibly want plus some. I want my child to acutally appreciate what they have and not grow up expecting things. Please tell me exactly how you do this. This is one of my biggest fear is to raise another spoiled brat.

Perspective

I think one of the best ways to appreciate what you have is to pay attention to those who have less. I was 16 & hated the old beat up ugly pick up trick my folks BOUGHT FOR ME. I was complaining about how ugly it was at school when another student asked me if my folks had money enough to buy me that much. I said yes & he told me I should be grateful. It really hit me, because this was a nice guy whose parents couldn't afford to get him a car. I didn't complain about it anymore.

There's nothing wrong with having nice things, but I think a lot of kids aren't taught that it's a privilege, not a right.

Hipi

When you wish upon a falling star, your dreams can come true. Unless it's really a meteorite hurtling to the Earth which will destroy all life. Then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for. Unless it's death by meteor.

Sarah101's picture

My concern too

I have the same concern regarding my BD(11). She already has so much more stuff than I ever did. Even so, I always drive home the importance of working hard at school, at her lessons, and doing her job for spending money (a paper route). She knows that to get a good job you have to go to college and work for it. So far she hasn't displayed a snotty attitude, but when she even ventures close to one, I nail her.

I think it has helped for her to see my loser adult skids be kicked out of the house--one by one. She often asks me "why didn't they go to college so they can get a good job?" or "Why do they always ask for money? I have to work for my money." One loser skid(21) even stole her paper route tips! I recently heard "I don't want to be like them" (referring to the loser skids). So I hope and pray that she "gets it"--so far things look promising. But that can change too...

Sita Tara's picture

Thanks I need to hear someone young gets it!

Good for you and your parents. I can't tell you how many times I've had other parents indicate we're too hard on our kids. It's as if they want to validate their relaxed, buddy buddy attitude by making a parent who is...well actually PARENTING seem over the top strict.

Peace, love, and red wine

Constant examples in my house

My husband is well on his way to cranking out yet another child who feels entitled to everything. My SD14 has chores but doesn't do them, and husband conveniently doesn't notice. Until evil stepmom who is already overwhelmed by working full time and raising two BDs 4 and 1 pitches a fit. Then I am the bad guy.

SD14 is playing club volleyball in a town 1 hour away where her mom lives. This entails transporting her to that town Wednesday afternoon for practice, then transporting her back to our town Wednesday night. Then transporting her back to that town for weekend practices and games. And nobody but me (not BM and not husband) saw a problem with her even asking for something like this. She asks and she gets.

Would husband drive BDs two hours twice a week for a recreational activity? I don't think so!

One time my SD asked H how

One time my SD asked H how much money he made at work- she told him "You have enough money to pay for everything I do"

And then when he was complaining about how much the house cost, she said "If you hadn't bought that house, you would have been able to give us so much more"
AND HE AGREED

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I wanna ADD to you list... please!

To add to the LIST:

I expect my attorney fees, class fees and ticket paid when I drink & drive.

I expect extra cash for me to buy cigarettes and gas for the car that you gave me, not to mention for all repairs, insurance, maintenance, and registration fee.

I expect dinner to be waiting for me when I get home even though I cannot be on time AND I expect you to heat it and clean up after me.

I expect everyone to believe me when I say for the past 6 months “I HAVE been looking for a job, there just are none.”

I expect you to drive me to & from school since I have had my license revoked from so many dui’s.

I expect me bad mouthing and back-stabbing my step-parent to be excused since I didn’t want you getting married again.

I expect my lies about being molested and abused to be excused since I thought I deserved more attention.

I expect to be given everything I asked for Christmas even though you just shelled out $1100 in attorney fees from my dui.

I expect you to keep shelling out money so I can sit home, watch tv, talk on the cell phone you pay for, play games and smoke.

I expect you to understand when I lie to you on Christmas Eve and tell you “I will be back at 11pm,” but end up not coming back to your house, calling you to lie and say I am at mom’s, and not show up to mom’s until after 3am!

I expect you to understand that I have lied to all of my friend's parents about you abusing me and still show your face at neighborhood parties and church like nothing happened.

I expect you to not hold any grudges for me FALSELY accusing you and your spouse of things and having the police come into our home with a search warrant. Forgive and forget, remember?

I expect you to pay for the "morning after pill" when I have unprotected sex.

I expect you to keep taking my mood swings and refusal to help with anything around the house because I am tired and might threaten suicide – again.

I expect you to pay for my counseling AND the additional charges when I decide at the last minute to not go to my appointments.

I expect you to keep lying to your spouse for me since I am your child and she is just your new wife – secrets are ok.

I expect you to keep coming to my rescue and believing all of my lies because you got a divorce – you were not the one to file or commit adultery (that was BM), but you have guilt, so you will pay the rest of your life!!!!

Retired's picture

Another thought...

A lot of families are dysfunctional, broken up homes, divorce and single parents. I also feel that a lot of the entitlement comes from parents who parent out of guilt- the I want to be your friend factor, not your parent. Sad isn't it?

Eye-wink StepMom

Man has the intelligence to change his life,
Sometimes, he just fails to use it...

Sarah101's picture

Nothing good ever comes of parental guilt

Yes, it's sad.While many kids live through dysfunctional situations (including still-happily-married warring bioparents, by the way)I don't think that means the kids will turn into entitlement monsters. As I read these posts, it's painfully obvious that it takes two to play the entitlement game, and the entitlement is fueled in part by parental guilt.

Kids can smell parental guilt a mile away, and they are masters of manipulation. IMHO, while the kids are planted firmly in the present and making demands upon their parent, the guilty parent is living in the past and using the present as a band-aid. So, after manipulating and wheedling and wearing their parent down, the kid gets relief for her/his "pain" by getting what they want, and the parent gets relief from the painful sense of guilt that they feel. Unfortunately that relief is only short-term and the whole cycle starts over again...

Whatever happened to the word NO?

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I sure do see it...

In our case b/c DH was the one who kept Disney land BM in check with spoiling SD most of the time when they were married. SD's psychologist warned us that BM's Disneyland and SD's appetite for material bliss would likely get worse with us gaining full custody, b/c now BM feels she has no need to parent at all. We are the complete bad guys all the time. As in, "Your dad said no tripple padded push-up lingerie bras for your 13th b-day????? Well then- let's hit Victoria's Secret!!!"

She's become totally passive aggressive even worsethan before because now she just considers SD her buddy.

We are surrounded by other blended families who are stooping to the same thing. So when the rational parent says no, the non-rational one says yes yes yes. SD brags to everyone how she can "get" BM to do whatever she wants if she just nags her enough. Then is constantly trying to work us the same way. Then we feel cornered and therefore we get more restrictive and have to correct the behaviors over and over b/c ..."Mom doesn't mind if I'm this way there" -like "get over it- this is who I am!" attitude.

Tonight SD claimed once again she doesn't believe in God because she can't see God. I am a Unitarian Universalist, so not a traditional have to have a strict Christian/Jewish/Muslim view of God, but a child who is so determined to be smug about faith at 13....as if she knows everything and we know nothing? Give me a break. Just another example- No God means I can do whatever I want because there'll be no consequences.

Of course later she muttered "God!" under her breath when DH corrected her about something. I was irritated b/c I'd been trying to figure out where my 2 yr old was picking this up- I have been trying to constantly correct her to say Gosh instead. I say the almighty lord's name in vain whooper often, but never in front of 2 year old so I figured she was getting it from one of the kids.

But DH had the best comeback to SD. When she muttered, "GOD!" Dh said, "Since you don't believe in GOD then I would be calling on him right now!"

DH-1
SD-0

Peace, love, and red wine

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The Ultimate Gift

I just saw that movie last night, and it actually has a great message about entitlement issues.

Agreed

That sounds like my skid...He's basically a loser already...he got his girlfriend pregnant...they can't stand each other now...he is flunking out of school...he has broken several doors with his baby fits...he's basically had everything go his way all of his life...thanks to rich relatives...he smokes...he does not do chores...he does not help with the pets...he does not do anything but consume. Oh, and he doesn't respect me one bit...I can't wait until he is gone...Or I'm gone...whichever comes first.

Thanks for the posts! I can

Thanks for the posts!

I can relate to this, but I have a skid who is 31 years old, and like the posts on here, he feels entitled. To use our car, eat, drop by at 1AM, and lately he has used a new tactic, that that is to talk to dad in private, and not even talk to me at all.

He goes straight to the source, because I will NOT put up with his tactics, in anyway. They go into a room and shut the door......this way I am cut out. This has been going on for over 10 months.

I can tell you this. I have never seen a 30 year old have a temper tantrum before. Its a pretty awesome sight. Yelling, stomping feet, etc. similar to that of a 2 year old.

Incredible!

Oooh ONE up! I have a 30

Oooh ONE up! I have a 30 year old ex-con step son who lives with us and does this exact same thing. He makes sure that I'm not around because he knows that if I know he's asking for money, my evil alt will appear. Evil Sad enough, BD will give him money for anything, cigarettes, gas, dates, whatever...and then he hides it from me. Not for long though. This ESM is about to propose an ultimatum. Either he gets a job within one month, or he can go live under a bridge. I've had enough.

And they are getting younger too!

I can relate to the comments above with my SD who is only 7!!! Her BM gives her anything and everything she wants. She has learned all she has to do is pout and summon up a couple of tears. SD will tell you very matter-of-factly she knows exactly what to do to get what she wants from BM. At 7!! The BM has gotten SD a cell phone at 5yo and a $200+ ipod at 6yo. The latest thing SD wants is a laptop and it would not surprise me a bit to see it happen. The sad thing is the BM really doesn't have the money to buy this stuff all the time, but will charge it to her already overloaded debt, just to not say no to the SD.

When SD comes to our house she expects the same treatment, but has learned it doesn't work here. She still tries everytime we go into ANY store, she wants something, ANYTHING, and of course doesn't get it. SD will pout a little and try the tears and we just look at her dispassionately and it stops.

SD thinks the world revolves around her at 7. I shudder to think what it's going to be like as she gets older.

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