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shes driving me crazy in my retirement's picture

Made an offer on a house before we left yesterday. The bad part is the house is in an estate and, according to what our agent hears from the estate agent, the children think the home is worth more than listed for. Guess they have turned down other offers. Grrr. Well, as much as I want to move, I am not the kind that gets emotionally involved in any house where I will pay anything to get it.

DD says, to pick up my spirits, that this was only our first sojourn down there looking, we will go again in a month or so.

Meanwhile, back at the ranch (our house), saw my neighbor this morning, we have real nice neighbors, and it seems that her daughter has, in the past, bought pots and pans and hosted a party from Twit. Well, I guess she was contacted by Twit about having another "party" and was going to do it. But, my neighbor told her about how Twit treats us, how she comes ranting and raving at me on my property (people see and hear) etc. and advised her daughter that this might not be the kind of person she wants around her! That Twit rant where I ended up calling the police was heard by my neighbors on all sides and evidently, made quite an impression on them.

Andie91801's picture

Best of luck. Usually with estate even the children want to sell with higher price, they also want to sell it fast because it happened to DH n his siblings so keep your finger cross Smile

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Merry's picture

We bought our house from an estate. Like you, it was way over priced and other offers had been declined. But finally the heirs got tired of the fighting among them and saw that all offers were of approximately the same value. And they continued to pay upkeep, utilities, taxes, etc. So we got the house. It might work for you!

notsobad's picture

I have a friend who is a real estate agent. He says the same thing, they are emotionally attached and think the place is worth more. Or there is one kid who holds out thinking that they can get more, only to loose out big time. The longer a property is on the market the less it is perceived to be worth.

sandye21's picture

Good luck with the house, SDM. When we moved to a different state it took a couple of trips to find what we really wanted so don't lose hope.

As far as your neighbor's impression of Twit and passing along the info to her daughter, this was not based on gossip but from what the neighbor actually witnessed. Your neighbor was probably concerned for her daughter's safety - and rightly so. Before you move, you will find out there are other people who have witnessed Twit's odd behavior.

shes driving me crazy in my retirement's picture

Hi there Sandye - Yep, probably going to take more than this one trip to find the right house. From what my agent says, there is one heir that wants to hold out for more, maximum $$.

And you are so right. Neighbor is concerned for her daughter's safety. She couldn't believe what she saw and heard that day the police came by. They are also the ones that saw the Twit walking around our property, checking it out last summer when we were gone. People notice things and weird behavior.

They are sad we are looking to move because we get along. Good, considerate neighbors are hard to come by these days.

As for Twit, I am starting to hear more and more people say that they have wondered about Twit's odd behavior in dealing with her. I mean the woman she shared a booth with that time, and Twit stole those referals - claiming the woman's young son was throwing them in the trash can - hasn't been all too quiet about her either, from what I hear.

Sandye - perhaps you or someone else can shed some light on this. Twit does these things, like I mentioned above and actually almost brags about them. Not that she did anything wrong, but blaming it on someone else, like the child. Of course the woman quit the pot and pan team after that happened which to me speaks volumes and Twit, well, she just didn't understand why.

Or how she talks about how her hubby's best buddy from the Navy wife won't let her come any where near her, but Twit's hubby is always welcome. When I asked why, Twit's response was that she didn't know, that the wife was crazy. Or when she bragged to me about having an affair with the one boss, (she didn't actually say she was having an affair but it was easy to put 2 and 2 together to make 4) but was dressing up to the 9's to go to work and was bragging about how the boss had to keep his wife away from her and if the wife came by Twit was suppose to make herself scarce. Let's face it, wife's don't get like that unless there is a reason to suspect something is going on or that they saw something. Here Twit was talking about this as though nothing was wrong....the boss's wife was another crazy. Needless to say, that was another job that didn't last long. I mean, why would someone brag about these things? Doesn't she get it?

The reason I ask is that from my reading, narcisisst's hide behavior like that because they don't want any one to know what they did. They know when they are wrong, they just don't care, but they don't want others to find out because it would tarnish their image, which is all important to them.

Exjuliemccoy's picture

Have you considered that Twit could be Borderline with narcissistic tendencies?

Fingers crossed and positive thoughts sent your way!

shes driving me crazy in my retirement's picture

Hi exjuliemcoy - Oh yes. But I always thought people like that wanted to keep their evil deeds secret because they didn't want others to know what they were really like.

I can tell you that when she starts talking about her dealings with people, and things like the above and more, it can get pretty scary. Then we have her dancing in my driveway proclaiming she is not normal and never has been normal, and being quite proud about it. THAT was a most interesting choice of words. In my long life I have never ever had any one tell me that. That day she actually sent shivers down my spine, it was so strange.

sandye21's picture

SDM, I agree Twit is a narcissist. When Twit blamed the woman sharing her booth for stealing referrals and blaming her kid for throwing them in the trash, that's a narcissist trick. Bragging about an affair with the boss is narcissistic in that it was giving her ego a lift by being more 'desirable' than his wife. I'm not a shrink but I really believe she has other mental issues besides narcissism. She would not have been snooping around your house if she wasn't paranoid. Downright scary stuff.

It's like my SD. I know she's a narcissist - she displays all of traits of a narcissist. She goes ballistic if you call her out on her bad behavior, she is NEVER wrong, she is sadistic, with no regard for rights or feelings of others. But there are other things about her that, due to my lack of knowledge, I can't put my finger on it but it just isn't right. Like the way she dislikes women. The women in DH's family have nothing to do with her because of it. Or her hot / cold behavior. I never knew what kind of mood she was going to be in when she came to visit. Most of the time she detested me but there were a few times she actually acted as if she might like me. I am so glad I don't have to deal with this anymore. You will be saying the same soon.

shes driving me crazy in my retirement's picture

Wow Sandy - Your second paragraph about your SD sounds so familiar. Yep, Twit doesn't like other women UNLESS they are buying her pots and pans or on her team and producing. Otherwise she calls them LOSERS. As for guys, let us know forget how my Twit cried to DH that the old almost 90 year old neighbor of her's was making advances towards her, telling her that when Twit's hubby died they would be a good couple! Imagine! Heck, the old guy can scarcely walk. Of course DH, being a father, didn't like hearing that and of course Twit played it up with the boo hoo hoo's.

Quite frankly, I know there is more wrong with her than just narcissism. Borderline? Probably, bu I am never certain just how far she will really go, just how evil she is. Let me say, I would not stand at the edge of a canyon, or by river, with just her around me, if you know what I mean. I do feel she would go farther if she had the opportunity and that is not a good feeling.

And I am so glad to be taking the steps to get away from her. What is sad is that we have to make another big move at this time in our lives. We are not spring chickens.

notsobad's picture

Not liking other women is typical too. They are competition and can usually see through her.
She's nice when she wants something. You nailed it when you said she ACTED like she might like you, it's all an act.

The mask falls around those who she can get nothing from. She doesn't believe that you can do any harm to her, so why pretend around you. Then every once in a while she thinks she should give you a little tug, just in case you might have something she wants in the future.

My BFF dated a narcissist for 4 years, the next ex (as we called her) took a bunch of stuff off his computer. One item was a journal where he recorded his real thoughts, it is terrifying the way he sees people.

shes driving me crazy in my retirement's picture

Hi Exjulie - Nothing yet. I did instruct the agent to put another offer, basically just the same offer, back in on the home that is in the estate with the hope that the heirs will have gotten sensible. The time it ends is in about 2 weeks so there is some hope although their agent says not to get my hopes up.

Meanwhile, we deal with things. The Twit calls and it just goes to the answering machine and then I delete it, unheard. I figure that I don't need to hear her voice crying about how terrible we are in not taking her calls, etc. We are doing well on this, but I feel I am always on alert...just waiting for her to crawl out of the slime and start up again. PTSD for sure.

SugarSpice's picture

people who have those pots and pans parties "use" their friends to push product.

its very unethical to "use" ones family to have parties.

the heck with sd.

shes driving me crazy in my retirement's picture

Hi Sugar - You are right on there about those "parties"

I once had the Twit call me one afternoon, late, and invite me to a cleaning products party she was hosting (these people that sell stuff seem to also do parties on other products). I declined.

She then, immediately, called DH and cried and told him how mean I was. That she was having this party to (get this) get together with all her good, close friends because she doesn't have time to see them so she was having this "party" so they all could get together; and she wanted me to come and meet them. Yeah, right. I told DH that if I was one of these "good, close friends" and the only time she bothered with me was when she was hosting a party or selling (either way she is using them), I wouldn't bother with her. You make time for your good, close friends because they are that, and you want to spend time doing things with them other than pressuring them to BUY so you can profit from them.

Not that I cared, but I have no doubt that she was finding out that all these "good close friends" weren't coming so she needed someone to sell stuff to, otherwise she wouldn't be looking at me. And you can bet those "good close friends" are not friends, but aquaintences (sp) that are wise to her. Twit is just a user, doesn't know any one unless there is something in it for her.

shes driving me crazy in my retirement's picture

Well, since coming back Twit has been ringing our phone and leaving messages. We have gone through the anger messages and now she is at the crying messages, but they just get deleted. I know the stage we are in because once in a while I am around and hear the message she leaves, otherwise I just delete them when I see who it is on the machine.

I can, and will predict that next will be the rage messages and who knows what she will do but if she shows up here, the moment I see her car in my driveway I am calling the police.

sandye21's picture

Good for you. Wouldn't be surprised if she moved eventually tried the 'suicide' message again. Have you heard anything about the house?

shes driving me crazy in my retirement's picture

Morning - That would be right in par for her, but if she calls and threatens that, and I am the only one around, I will call the police and tell them I had a suicide threat from step-daughter and give them information...protecting the message she leaves for proof. Let the authorities deal with crazy.

If DH is around, well, I would have to thread carefully, but I would still suggest it telling him that the call should be made as I am "concerned" when anyone makes threats like that.

Don't forget, folks, she pulled that stunt before and I had a check done on her, for which she was furious because all her neighbors saw the county police show up at her door.

But I am putting the horse before the cart here, will just have to wait and see what Twit comes up with this time.