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Wow, so update to SD and blood glucose levels

nunya1983's picture

I went and bought a glucose meter and texted everyone in our house as a "game".

It was neat to see how people's blood sugar reacted to their lunch.

So yes, it seems that SD is diabetic, dh made an appointment for her to go see a doctor. Hopefully this all plays out well! Thank you guys for your advice!

Dh's (diabetic) father decided to treat SD to new clothes (even though we just went and got her some). And we ate in the food court at the mall. Then he handed SD money to go get lunch afterwards (we all joined in for lunch). Dh had a Philly cheese stake, me and dd11 had wraps, dd10 had a veggie sandwich, dd and (diabetic grandfather) go and get some Asian place and SD got fried rice, some sort of creamy pasta, and fried chicken (everything was huge portions).... I minded my own and didn't say anything, because I figured when we got home I was checking everyone's blood sugar.... oh my gosh SD's was seriously astronomically high! Later on afterwards, she took a nap and slept for 3 hours. And lay night she slept for 12 hours, and today she took a nap, she just woke up right now (another 3 hour nap)

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kathc's picture

I hope that they get it under control. It was good of you to make sure you checked SD's blood sugar since nobody else wanted to admit there was a problem! Good for you!

nunya1983's picture

It just seemed as if there were more and more symptoms popping up, or at least I started noticing them. She hasn't always needed a nap every day, once or twice a day, but lately she has, even after sleeping a good 12 hours at night. I did a little research because someone told me that my kids all sleep too much. Apparently not, kids and preteens need 9-10 hours every night since they are fairly active I try to make sure that it more often on the 10 hours side.

She's been drinking a lot of water for a very long time. She's always "so thirsty", she drinks at least 6 or 7 bottles of water. She's been peeing a LOT, when we go to the movies, she will go right before the movie, but then needing to pee right in the middle of the movie. I always hate it because it will be right when I'm really into the movie and she interrupts it because she had to get by, which I inevitably get kicked or stepped on. So I really notice. I used to think it was her way of getting up or if bed to stay up later... because I figured that it was just a normal kid thing. But then it happened more often throughout the day. Well be in the middle of shopping (furthest point from a bathroom) and she'll have to pee.

ltman's picture

What do you mean by high? I'm diabetic. What your SD ate made me cringe a bit. But the wraps the others ate were probably just as high in carbs. They look healthy, but not really.

nunya1983's picture

We had falafel (garbanzo beans and chickpeas) and humus (chock peas) wrap with cucumbers, onions, and tomatoes on whole wheat tortillas... Not a lot of carbs

The veggie sandwich had a lot of bread but a lot of spinach and tomatoes, cucumbers, bell peppers, she always goes with out sauce other than oil and vinegar.

Dh's was horrible, he believes that cheese is good for you (whether you have diabetes, high cholesterol or high blood pressure). His sandwich also looked very greasy!

Eta her blood sugar level was 320ish

nunya1983's picture

That's weird I didn't know that, they specifically told me that it was garbanzo and chickpeas. And the recipes I pull up have all asked for both (I haven't made any yet, but plan on it.

It was baked not fried, I've seen recipes that say to fry it, but if I do make it I plan on baking it.

ltman's picture

Beans and tortillas are a bit high in carbs, the fiber in the beans helps make them healthier than rice. And whatever sauce or condiment has to be accounted for.

SD doesn't need to go to the ER, but she does need to be seen by a Dr asap. She did consume a much greater carb load than anyone and what time you took her blood can account for the high results. The drinking and peeing is more a cause of concern. Has she had any changes in her vision?

furkidsforme's picture

I'm not trying to be mean, but if you think a falafel and hummus are a "low carb" lunch, you need a nutrition class.

nunya1983's picture

I know her mother isn't. She took her to the doctor had labs done, and didn't tell dh anything!

Dh tends to blindly strum along not doing anything about SD. I am hoping since he saw this he will actually take the steps to help her.

WTF...REALLY's picture

We just had a kid visit us for a couple of weeks. Over weight, could not hike with us - she was just full of excuses to why she needs a bunch of food and zero exercisers. She is 15! It made me sick. And her GPA is 1.7. Who lets their kid be like this???????? She will get diabetes for sure.

Lazy parents make me sick.

thinkthrice's picture

Exact description of OSS, SD and YSS in my case.  And yes, the Girhippo "parents" like this

BarkAtTheMoon's picture

I got diabetes when I was 11. They didn't have glucose meters then as it was 1981, but they had urine test kits you could buy at the drug store. The entire family was negative and then I did my test. It read 2% sugar in my urine and that's as high as the test could read. I, too, had been getting up 2x a night to use the bathroom. I was 5'2" and weighed 110lbs. I dropped down to 95 lbs and looked rail-thin. I remember my parents taking me to Georgetown Univ. Hospital, where I was admitted for a week. Mom had served melon with our dinner that night and I had eaten A LOT. My sugar level was near 600 in the ER!

I stayed in the hospital for a week and have been on insulin ever since. SD's sugar levels are worthy of an ER visit. NOW. Is DH doing anything today, or do you have an appointment scheduled? It sounds like she needs to get on insulin ASAP. Also, out of control diabetes can make you lose weight, when your sugars are high and you're thirsty and drinking all of the time. Please be careful!

~ Moon

thinkthrice's picture

had a similar experience.  He was always very thin and Tall yet was always drinking lots of sodas and water and peeing a lot.  Almost went into a diabetic coma and was taken to the ER where he was diagnosed with type 1

Miki's picture

I agree with Moon ^^. I hardly ever post but that blood sugar level in a 10 year old warrants a trip to ER. I logged in only to tell you this. Uncontrolled diabetes can cause kidney failure, amputations, blindness etc.

nunya1983's picture

Thank you, she does have an appointment. She doesn't typically eat that way. Dh should have gone with her and not let grandpa go with her. He let's her eat what ever she wants with out any question. Dh let's get get pretty much what ever she wants, as he doesn't really know what is healthy and what is not.

learningallthetime's picture

I hope the appointment is tomorrow, otherwise you need to get her somewhere today. Seriously. Have you tried a fasting blood sugar? Tested again? If she is maintaining at a high number like that, and it is not coming down, she needs treatment ASAP. It is a long term health risk and also a risk immediately for UTIs and other infections.

momof3smof2's picture

Well, of course her levels were high. She'd just eaten that stuff. You'll get a more accurate reading before eating. Any reading within 2 hours of eating isn't reliable.

Miki's picture

Yes of course the more accurate reading would be before eating or even better fasting. But it shouldn't be that high even after eating all of that..

twoviewpoints's picture

Absolutely it should not. That kid's level after stuffing her face like that should have been 150-200 points lower than what Nunya stated at 320 something.

Nunya, what they will do when SD goes into her labs for her drs appointment is include a A1C which is a ninety day average. I have a hunch your SD's average will be quite high. They will period (nothing after certain point in evening, usually at least eight hours before scheduled test) which will give the morning fastening for that day. They'll do a urine strip test too along with some others.

learningallthetime's picture

Agreed, when had a glucose test done on me when I was a nursing student - I had just eaten 2 doughnuts (I am a pig) 20 minutes before - and my sugar was still only 142.

And poor SD must be feeling terrible. They also should be checking her thyroid, often problems with that go along with diabetes. She is going to be feeling exhausted and lethargic, and probably will eat more to try and counteract those feelings, only worsening the issue.

Cover1W's picture

My sister is insulin dependent and her story is about the same as Bark's...320 even after eating is hospital worthy. Diabetic coma is not to be taken lightly.

WTF...REALLY's picture

Normal eating levels are 170 - 200

Impaired Glucose - 190 - 230

Diabetic - 220 - 300

Your SD - 320 after eating

If she where my step child - I would take her to the ER. Or take her to the doctors tomorrow. But that's just me.

oneoffour's picture

I work in an Endos office. I am not an expert but ...nothing can be done tonight. However I would make sure she sees a Dr tomorrow even if it is an Urgent Care. She may 'have' diabetes or she maybe has pre-diabetes. And if there is a family history then getting it may already be pre-determined. So it may not be her fault.

But she does need to see an Endo Dr. If DH is positively comatose about it ask him how he will cope when his daughter is blind within 5 years because she DOESN"T take care of herself. We had 2 patients under 20 who were blind because they didn't bother taking car eof themselves. Type 1 or 2. It doesn't matter.

robin333's picture

I work in Healthcare too. That is way too high, even accounting that it was checked after eating.

If this were my child (and she had symptoms present for as long as your SD), she would be at the er. At least check her sugar now and call her pediatrician if over 200. She should be at the er if 201 and if below 200, at the md first thing in the morning.

This is one of those times when you insist/override your DH for the child's safety.

learningallthetime's picture

It could be either. Type 1 has a typical onset in childhood, and can be the result of genetics, autoimmune disease (often after an infection) - my ex-skid was diagnosed type 1 after a bug, we ended up in the ER and his blood sugar was over 1000 by a blood test and he was medevac'd to a children's hospital for nearly a week. In type 1 the pancreas stops making insulin - so your body cannot use any sugar you eat, so often it is marked by weight loss as you literally pee out the sugar. However, I have a friend who was diagnosed during pregnancy in her 30's. And if you are overweight it can still occur, and may be indicated by weight loss still, even from an obese start.

Type 2 is traditionally diagnosed in adults who are obese - they eat so much sugar their bodies cannot keep up with insulin production necessary to process and/or the receptors on the cells are overloaded, again resulting in an inability to process sugar. Therefore anyone who is eating too much sugar be it an adult or a child is vulnerable.

So, they are two separate diseases with different biochemical processes as the cause, but the result is the same. Excess sugar in the blood stream and urine - results in damage to capillaries, thus blindness (due to bleeding in the retina), kidney failure (due to overload), in addition to UTI's and frequent infections due to the fact bacteria love sugar, so love the blood of diabetics.

I had a patient who failed to control his sugar, got an eye infection, lost the eye and it spread to his brain ventricles and literally sent him crazy. And it could have been managed. Type 1's have to have the insulin replaced as they do not make it, type 2's have numerous options (including insulin) to reduce the sugar load.

Amber Miller's picture

My DH is a physician. I read him your post. He said your SD is diabetic. I hope she gets help soon. Thank you for trying to help this poor child.

nunya1983's picture

She has an appointment this morning with her pediatric physician. Hoping to get a referral to an endocrinologist. The pediatric doctor is likely going to run tests to confirm the diabetes, but will still put a referral through. If something needs to be done while she is there, the pediatric doctor will do something he won't make her wait to see the endocrinologist

I appreciate everyone's comments. I do realize that everyone's levels will rise after eating, but not into the 300s. Your glucose shouldn't go to 200 even when you eat.

Amber Miller's picture

That's good news and you're right, after eating her sugars should not be in the 300's. I confirmed it with my husband. It's not an emergency at this point but it definitely needs to be taken care of. I wonder what her BP is and what her triglycerides look like.
How sad.
I often see many severely overweight kids when I pick my sons up from school. It makes me sad. How could a parent not see that this is happening?