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MIL issues, a little OT

ocs's picture

This one is new for me....

I've never really had any problems with my inlaws- they are quite sweet and wonderful. If anything, they are way too soft on skid and BM nonsense, and MIL can guilt DH into doing things for SD (and of course coincidentally for BM) that he normally would have put his foot down.

It seems more often than not, when we are there and DH is out of earshot, MIL insists on bringing up BM. She hates BM and thinks she is the devil, so I think she thinks it's ok to bring it up because we are on the same page. I have said repeatedly that "I don't want to talk about it" and that "I've come to a place in my life where I don't think about her.", MIL keeps at it. (sometimes I've walked away)

Yesterday hit me like a punch in the stomach. (many times the conversation is about when SD was a baby and how bad it was, how many fights they had, how vicious BM can be, etc..) DH and BM never married, it was more like a 6 month hangout.

During the conversation, she brought up a woman DH dated a few years back. It started with, "I don't know if my son ever told you this...". In a nutshell, Dh dated her long distance, 'fell in love with her' and when it came time to figure out the arrangement bc they lived in different parts of the country, he said he couldn't move bc of SD.

MIL then said, "he lost his chance at happiness." I waited for her to the realize that she was having this conversation with ME.... ummmmmm- his current wife. She didn't, and I said, "well- it seems ok, since he's married to me now." She then kinda tried to backpedal, but I felt very hurt.

A few years ago, while on vacation, a few of us were talking about our pasts and 2 of my friends asked my DH about his life. We married late in life, so often people are curious about it. He brought up this girl then, and spoke of their relationship and he said they would have stayed together, except her parents had an issue that he had a daughter. The table went silent, and my GF quickly said, "Wow- good thing, 'cause you married my bestie." Later that night I told him how that made me feel and he apologised and said he didn't realize. (DH can be socially awkward, so I chalked it up to that). The conversation started from talking about how people in their 40's meet. Never thought about it again until yesterday.

All of a sudden, i feel insecure. I feel like my normal confident self has taken a hit. I recently also lost my job, so feel kind of fragile already. I don't want to tell him what his mom said, bc he may blow up at her.

What do you guys think? Am i being a big baby? Give me some perspective. Dh and I have been together 6yrs, married 4.

constantly_irritated's picture

Ugh, I would feel bummed out too, but Sally is right. You're in a weird place and telling MIL to stop gabbing about other women will HAVE to happen. I've gone through some doubts with my DH and love, but the longer we've been together the more I know he truly loves me. If you've been confident up to this point, then you probably know that you're the only one for him. If he had REALLY loved that lady he would have done anything to keep her. My vote is that it wasn't love and there is some weird romanticized version of the past happening here.

Troy9929's picture

Tell him to kick rocks and MIL to throw herself into a lava pit because the chick from across the country got really fat and now has an incurable disease that gives her boils and makes her smell realllly bad! Biggrin OK, now that I got that out of my system, it is true we men sometimes "know" by virtue of sitting next to you, you know by osmosis that your are the best woman we ever met and through that same osmosis realize the other woman obviously wasn't worth it. Sometimes, we're just dumb like that. Also I agree that being blunt with MIL every time she starts to gossip is the best course of action. I might suggest instead of telling DH what MIL said. Have a direct conversation with MIL and be honest. Tell her, respectfully, exactly how she made you feel. I think you'll gain a lot of respect in the long run by both MIL and DH...... if MIL has the guys to even mention the conversation to him:)

ocs's picture

LOL, Kick rocks... Love that.

Thank you very much everyone. I went for a long walk with the puppy, and came back to read these. I am taking all of your advice to heart, and thanks Troy, for the male perspective. I do know DH loves me and what we have built, he shows it in his actions and how he treats me. Perhaps a small bout of feeling sorry for myself this morning.

Much appreciated!

I will have a discussion with MIL-

Happy Canada Day, and Happy 4th!

IamexhaustedSM's picture

Everyone has a past and everyone has a love story or two or four for some of these BMs LOL. If my past love had not died I would have probably married and divorced him not my ExH and DD would not be who she is.

Do not feel insecure. MIL was stupid of the remark she made. If MIL tries to bring up DH s past love life again I would hold up my hand and tell her, "The last time you did that MIL you put your foot in your mouth and from what I know DH is VERY HAPPY WITH ME so no need to bring up any old baggage".

Talk to your DH let him know you are feeling insecure because of these two conversations. I bet he will make you feel treasured.

Lemonlimez's picture

My MIL does this and I actually think it's to ruffle feathers. There is no good reason to mention her son's past to me. It's very annoying and I usually change the subject. Just let it go and avoid her if possible. MIL who feel threatened by their sons wife are often passivly aggressive malicious. They use it as a way of hurting you without coming right out and being a bitch. But surprise, she's still a big bitch!

SugarSpice's picture

your mil is an idiot. pure and simple.

i had this issue with my mil when she sided with skid when skid told me to go to h%ll to my face. skid was college age. wtf? mil and fil then ORDERED me not to call them any more.

fast forward. mil and fil are now very old, ill and frail and want to ask advice on health issues. (i am a health professional.) what should they eat, etc. dh said i never talk to mil and fil by phone.

wtf? does he remember the message he was asked to relay to me? the h%ll with both of them.

i am sorry for your loss of job. your self esteem should not hinge on your marriage and skids. you will find a job in time.

Helga's picture

Sugar spice, my situation very similar. A message relayed to me by DH 2 years ago saying I wasn't welcome in MIL and FIL home until I apologised to SIL for being upset with her.
Obviously time has passed and I haven't seen them since this time and it felt like DH was in my corner on this, but then appears he can't take my side in this one after all.

Helga's picture

I have totally disengaged from MIL, FIL and SIL after I refused to apologise to them. They requested I apologise for being upset with them for bad mouthing BM big time then secretly having her stay for Xmas. I found out a year later. I said I would not be apologising for being upset and I chose to stay away from them and their two faced antics.
Big BUT, hubby cannot disengage from them. For a while he had contact with them on his own, then they all arranged a trip together, I found out months later just before event was to take place. All blew up and he promised me no more, was sick of manipulation by them etc etc. Now, 3 months later he tells me he cannot live with this alienation from them, we had a big argument, where does he go - Mummies!! He said I need to get over it, to me he is condoning their actions by what he is doing.
One day I think, I love him and I have to love the good and the bad - the next I think he is a gutless mummies boy!
Any thoughts welcome please. We had split up over this issue 3 months ago and he had sweet talked me back with nice words of no more.

SugarSpice's picture

i have disengaged from mil and fil since they sided with skid on a matter where skids told me to go to h&ll. they did not want to hear my side of the story. at least dh did not lose his balls and the skid to move out.

ocs's picture

Helga,

I get it. About 4-5 yrs ago BM had another baby, (not DH's) and my MIL ended up in the hospital visiting her... WTF? While DH had no idea why this happened or the how the hell it came about, he didn't say much about it.

When I asked why, she shrugged and said, "it makes SD happy". At this stage of the game, BM had not shown her full crazy yet, so we all attended a recital for SD. MIL spent it holding and cooing with this baby. I did not understand at all. MIL has had lunch with the nutbag and everything. She claims it is to keep her enemy close and this way she ensures she sees SD.

Since then BM has gone full batsh!t, and is dead to me. MIL last year, attended a function whereby BM and her flavour of the month DROVE my MIL to. DH was aghast and couldn't understand, and she said it was because she is too scared to drive the highway... :O (DH and I were out of the country or he prob would have driven her) DH just sighs and doesn't say much. For the most part, I just stay out of it. It has absolutely coloured my vision of my inlaws. I don't feel truly part of their family because of it. (great thing is that while DH loves his parents- he has short patience for them, visits are short)

Because MIL also brings up the past constantly and the latest 'foot in mouth' I have NO desire to even go over there. DH knows about how she brings up BM and has both told me to shut her down, and has shut her down himself, but MIL can't help herself. DH has a close knit family, so he would have a hard time being alienated from them. My only suggestion would be to let him see them as long as YOU don't have to. Try to let got of the feeling he is condoning their behaviour. He has to stop running to Mommy though, that is undermining. IF your inlaws invited BM for Christmas AND you were there- different story.

Helga's picture

Thanks for your response, I have been really desperate for some input this. DH came around last night to talk, it was sad, it was messy. He cannot understand why I cannot bury the hatchet and I can't understand how he can have ran to their house at the first sign of trouble.
He promised me that after last time, considering the pain they had caused us, he would never forgive them and be in their lives even if we weren't together as a couple. What a load of bull!!
So he was around here for about 3 hours, talking about ways forward, trying to be lighthearted in parts. Then at about 8.15pm he gets a call from Mummy asking where he is, it would be laughable if it wasn't so damn sad.
He is happy for me to stay in the marital house or do whatever whilst we work on these issues but it is pretty obvious that he will not budge on this issue and I really do not know how to move forward on it. How do you love someone when there is a part of their behaviour you find so bad, how can I let this sit in my head that it feels OK.
Yes I have disengaged from them, obviously he won't, but I have a heavy heart, I have become a bitter, twisted person that I don't recognise since this started 3 years ago. His answer, we be the bigger persons in this, we let it go, move forward and present a united front, but he has already proven he can't do that. He even said to me, they will be dead soon, which I thought was awful counting on them to die to get some peace! Even my own mum said that its down to me, you have to live with the fact that he won't give them up and he may continue to lie or not tell the truth about certain things.
I am so confused, do I continue the separation and get ion with life. I miss him, but maybe I miss what we had (past tense) rather than what we have and I am not sure I have the energy for one more try. Thanks ocs, another viewpoint is always welcome.

moeilijk's picture

The comment from MIL was certainly hurtful, although I'm sure in a socially-unaware/fundamentally lacking consideration but not actually bitchy way. The one from DH, I can see why it comes up in your mind from time to time.

The most important thing about any hurt or conflict in a close relationship is to fully heal from each episode. That's why, as a parent, I use time-outs with my kid. I need the break so I can come back and start fresh. It's no use holding onto that anger or frustration when dealing with a toddler - same goes for husbands.

What he said was thoughtless. And you were hurt by that. And now MIL said something along the same lines. Assuming your relationship is otherwise great, go ahead and tell him that. Tell him you're feeling fragile, were hurt by what was clearly an off-hand comment by someone who's opinion doesn't matter much because it was similar to an off-hand comment from someone (him) who's opinion matters the world.

Ask for a little cosseting. We all need it sometimes. Especially after spending time with MIL. (Ask me how I know. Sigh.)

Sparklelady's picture

I've had to disengage from MIL too for similar reasons. Please do not for one second think this is about you. This is her problem - and we give WAY too much credit to MIL's (they can be GUBMs too, you know!) Mine says stupid hurtful things now and again and so I just shut her out now. We only speak of totally polite stranger stuff now. I keep the conversations light and simple and NEVER speak to her outside of family dinners.

ocs's picture

You're dead on. She loves to overstep. Even with DH, there can be times when we have family stuff going on, and she will pout for him to bring SD over as well. It may conflict with what we are doing or the timing may not work, whatever, but DH feels guilty or he will be bitchy with her to let it go. He does tell her often enough to phone SD herself and figure it out. My SIL is not a big fan of SD's, and she also gets annoyed if MIL oversteps and has SD come to some family events.

BM is just such an uber bitch that 2 years ago Christmas, I just turned off. Completely. Had a serious conversation with DH that I just couldn't listen to it anymore. He has more or less kept the drama to a minimum with respect to BM. She doesn't exist in our house, except when SD is here and talks about her or her other two siblings.

I just have to get MIL on the same page.

You know- my mom even stopped MIL nonsense during some wedding activities. BM was causing drama for SD and MIL came to me to vent and complain, because she didn't want to burden her son. OMG.

Ugh- i'm just on edge. DH and I have been kinda disconnected this week. It needs to stop. Maybe when the sched goes back to EOWE.