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Overit1960's picture

SD36 has again been rude, inconsiderate, dishonest, disrespectful, same old same. I am at the point where I am totally finished with all of the pain and hurt her actions have caused, and she and her Loser husband are no longer welcome in my home. Fortunately, DH is in agreement. The tough part here is dealing with the grand kiddies... I made a BIG mistake, and allowed myself to actually give a darn about them. I loved seeing them but seeing them would mean seeing the evil viper, SD36, so that's a no go.

DH insists that we still need to send cards and of course $ to the grand kiddies, but I am not willing to do this because I feel any positive action in her or her kids direction says its OK to be rude and ignorant and lie to me and her Dad. It's not like we ever saw them often... (unless they needed something, like $).

DH and I are an an impasse here on this one. It's my money too (after 16 years of marriage) and I say no cards money or gifts to grandkids until an apology by SD36 comes our way (which will probably be NEVER, and I think DH knows this). He says I'm punishing the grand kiddies...who as far as I'm concerned, will probably turn out like their mother anyway.

Thoughts and comments please, on how to handle this one.

Rags's picture

I am on the fence on this one. On one hand rewarding the G-Skids will also benefit SD-36. On the other hand punishing G-Skids for the sins of their mother is not right.

So, see if you can figure out a way to minimize the benefit to SD-36 and recognize the G-Skids.

Though not the same situation you are in, we had to work out methods to provide my SS with what he needed during Sperm Land visitation travel while minimizing the benefit of our resources to the Sperm Clan. As time passed, events unfolded, and technology caught up we were able to support SS and keep our money out of their hands and actually force public and social humiliation onto the the Sperm Clan while doing it.

Historically they would take the travel money we would give to SS when he was traveling to Sperm Land for visitation. Invariably they would take that money with comments like "That is our CS money and it is to help support you while you are here." As he got older they just guilted him into filling their gas tanks, paying for family meals at restaurants, buying groceries, etc... Eventually we were able to open a joint Skid/DW account that was linked to our primary account that we could transfer funds into and out of with a click of a few buttons on line. If there was no money in the account, no debit card transactions would be approved. We would transfer money into his account before we put him on the plane and would transfer money out when he would call us from the airport confirming his arrival. On several occassions they pulled into the gas station after picking him up at the airport, filled up, and told him to pay for it. Nope, declined. }:) That stranded them at the gas station until Sperm Grandpa could bring money to them several hours later, Sperm GrandHag burned up our cell phones on that occassion. }:)

Then there was the caravan that picked him up from the airport for another visitaiton. Several car loads of friends and family picked the Skid up and then stopped at a favorite restaurant on the way back home from the airport and expected SS to pay for it. Nope, card declined!!! }:) }:) }:)

There were several situations over the last 5-8 years of the CO that they attempted to get us to pay for Skid related stuff while he was visiting them. Nope, if he is in your custody, you pay. Idiots!

This also allowed us to make sure he had resources when he got stuck at layover points on a couple of visitation trips.

So, see if you can determine a way to maintain a positive relationship and influence on the G-Skids while sidelining SD-36.

Have fun doing it. }:) Blum 3

emotionaly beat up's picture

Meet n the middle. Sent cards to the grandkids so they know you haven't forgotten about them, but no money.

Overit1960's picture

Did you see the word "too" - my money too - that means a joint decision on where the money goes and to whom.

misSTEP's picture

That's what we are doing. Putting whatever we would have sent/spent on the grands into an account for them for when they get older.

furkidsforme's picture

Asking your DH to cut his grandchildren out of his life because the SD was rude and disrespectful makes you as much of a hard ass game player as it does her. Think about it.

It's his money too, not just yours. So you don't get to decide. You COMPROMISE. Send the kids gift cards to stored adults don't like. Send them gifts. Take them on a special trip.

Ignore the SD. Seriously. If I can ignore my alcoholic junkie sister who tried to steal from me, you can ignore a SD with an attitude.

Overit1960's picture

The problem here is they are a package. YES maybe I am playing hardball, 16 years + of unpredictable rudeness, nasty disrespectful behavior finally pushed me to the edge. No more.

Your suggestion might work. I can send gift cards to specific places, like Toys are Us. Good idea!! Smile

Overit1960's picture

The kids are small, under 10 years old at this point. Def. not sending checks because who knows where the money goes then.

Rags's picture

For younger kids don't send money or checks. Send small toys or games, etc....

End of problem at least until they hit their teens.

Ninji's picture

Do you think SD will take the grandkids money?

If yes, send them an actual gift. If no, they you aren't rewarding SD, you are giving a gift to a child you love.

Overit1960's picture

I wanted to say Thank You to all who have replied to me, and hopefully I will hear some more from others too. I really appreciate it. I felt SOOO MUCH BETTER after posting this question here, and my big fear was that my SD36 would take the money and would also think Well, Its perfectly fine to be Rude then!

Hopefully everyone is correct, and the kids will know that we love them. Can't see them without SD36 coming here... and naturally there would have to be communication with the SD36 to arrange than. No way is that girl or her husband ever crossing the threshold into my home again.

arjuna79's picture

DH sends gifts to his grandkids (now 4,6,7). Gsd6's mom is DHs eldest bd (43), who is nothing but rude to her father. She never tells him when the gift arrives, never lets gsd6 talk to grandpa about it, they never get to share their connection. even on the yearly christmas Skype call, she never prompts kiddo to thank grandpa or even make the connection.

the other gkids dad (yss30) is in great connection w dh, and supports a completely different kind of connection with those kids. So right in front of us we see the difference of how parental hostility - or not- flavors the relationship.

It's a lose-lose situation when the parent is that kind of gatekeeper. I certainly would not send checks. Cards - sure. little gifts - maybe. I know my dh has about given up on gsd6, because sd43 has blocked so much. Very sad.

eta: we see the gskids once or twice a year. they know who grandpa is and snuggle right in. So as the kids get older, they can feel the visceral connection that overrides a parent's attempts to control

Overit1960's picture

Thanks for your post. That actually made me feel a bit better, and I think we are going to send gift cards. No more checks. It's a very strange situation, not helped by the fact that SD36, loser husband and kids live with my DH's ex wife.... Yep, a real nice scenario there. Not like WE would EVER go there to visit either...

arjuna79's picture

UGH they live with DH's XW???? :jawdrop:

Oh. The Berlin Wall of alienation right there. So sorry to hear that. My DH's XW is all over these grandkids, visiting often (you know, she doesn't have to work thanks to his lifetime of stock benefits) and then she rubs his face right in it: Oh! You should see the grandkids! They are so precious! Well sure he would, if he didn't have to still be working at 67 to make up for what he gave you in divorce.

Step away, connect as possible thru gift cards, as the kids age they can create their own connection with your DH. And you.

(ps don'tcha just love being "step-grandma"??? I get into so much good mischief with those kids, and I'm extra untouchable for being an extra orbit out of that family. Our favorite: the my talking pet app, where they can take pics of their dog and then make him talk!)

Overit1960's picture

Smile you gave me a giggle about getting into mischief. I do think that living with the Ex is part of the issue. DH has often said that SD36 is alot like the Ex. I know that the Ex is very very controlling and all over the grand skids. I think she is secretly rejoicing knowing that there is a problem with the relationship between us.

Yes we started together at below zero financially and have been working and working for the last 16 years together to have something decent for our future. He paid for the house that the Ex and the SD36 and her fam. live in...

No saint's picture

I would send a gift on the "proper" occasions but no money. SD wouldn't benefit from those and kids would still get a gift.

Overit1960's picture

Thanks, StepAside, I'm trying not to care. Just breaks my heart, I grew to care for the little ones. We are going to discuss tonight.

I was hoping and hoping that MY step family would be the one that "worked" - guess that was not destined to be.

ChokinOnLemonz's picture

This shit here is why I've already decided to not make myself emotionally attached the future RiceSlingerGrandbabies. Sigh...

I'd just be quiet and let him do for his grandchildren. He's probably already hurting enough over his children. It's much less painful for us to walk away because at the end of the day they aren't and never were OUR children. It's going to cut the dad at a core level we can't imagine and it's foolish to think we can.

Let him have this.

notarelative's picture

In our case it's the step-son-in-law who is the problem. He's told us he doesn't think we should have married (disrespectful to deceased spouses) and me that I am not related to his children. Step-daughter defies him a few times a year by contacting her father or visiting with the children.

We mail gifts for birthdays, Valentine's, and Easter to the grandchildren. Christmas gifts we hold till they come to pick them up (longest was three weeks so far). Cards are always signed only by the grandfather. My take is that if I'm not a relative, gifts from me inappropriate. I'll happily help pick out the gifts. I love to shop. DH, if left to his own devices, would stick money in the card. Kids are too young still to go to the store by themselves, so I wonder if they would actually see the money. Gifts, that we time to arrive on Saturday, are much harder for step-son-in-law to hide.

Mail gifts were not acknowledged in the beginning. We would email and ask if the gift arrived or should we have the post office trace it. After several years we started to get an email that it arrived. Now, in the last year, we actually get a phone call thank you from one if the grandchildren.

not2sureimsaneanymore's picture

Oh god, this is hilarious. Our daughter is almost two and I can tell you I HATE people giving her toys, especially ones that make sounds/light up. I can only listen to the same tune over and over again for so long before wanting to take a hammer to those blasted contraptions.

Overit1960's picture

Well I am not making a point to remember the grandkids birthdays... told DH that today. They are HIS grandkids, and he can remember their birthdays if he chooses to.

Not likely, he barely remembers his own... Wink Christmas is another story.

Whatever he wants to do... but not at my house, and not with me! One of the grandkids has allergies and asthma, life threatening, and no way I want the risk of an asthma attack at my house due to one of my pets or some food item the SD36 forgot put on the forbibben list.

I was so so very wrong and niave and stupid to actually think that my situation would be different. I can't believe that my little quiet boring life has turned into an episode from Jerry Springer. I'm actually kind of relieved that I never have to interact with that unpredictable nasty girl again.

sandye21's picture

Maybe things will change for you, SD will come to her senses and apologize for being an a$$. Ya --- another dream or TV drama! LOL The REAL odds of this happening are next to none. I haven't my mean, nasty SD in over 4 years. It has gotten to the point where I hope she never darkens my doorstep again. The only thing I've lost is heartbreak and frustration. DH can go see her if he wants. Every year that passes without SD in my life gets better.