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rahrah2019's picture

I know I don't have much to complain about, and this may seem petty to a lot of people here. But it has been eating at me for two days...

The only thing my DH and I argue about is BM. We have never had even so much as a heated conversation about anything else. I know in my heart my husband wants nothing to do with BM. But yet he is one of those "peace-keepers" who doesn't put her in her place when needed. He knows how I feel about having conversations with her about anything other than SS. First of all, just show me that respect. Second of all, why give her any more information than we have to about anything?

So a couple nights ago, DH went to use the bathroom or something. I went to feed the dog. He went one way, I went the other. I went back to the living room and he had turned around to grab his phone. I thought that was rather odd, because it was a situation where he normally would have just left it. So I got curious, and pulled up phone records. There had been two texts between him and BM that day. That in itself would not have done anything for me. We are taking SS on a little vacation this week and it would be somewhat normal to communicate about that. But the fact that he grabbed his phone like that really had me wondering. So I looked at his phone after he fell asleep. BM's text was asking who we went through when we bought our house. None of her fucking business, THAT'S WHO. About an hour later, DH texted her back, "Call me." And he has not said a word about it to me yet. Granted, we have spent only about three hours of awake time together since then, and a good part of that was with a chainsaw running. He has agreed to tell me whenever she contacts him about something other than SS.

I've tried to play devil's advocate here and give him the benefit of the doubt as to what was said. But the fact that he hasn't told me about it yet makes me think he actually carried on a conversation with her about it. She lives an hour from us, so I'm not sure why she would be interested at all in that. I'm pretty sure it was referring to the financing, as opposed to the realtor. I wish I could remember for sure, though. I had just updated my city on facebook the day before. Our old realtor lives in the same town she does, so if it was that, she may have gone into the bank where BM works and asked about it, wondering if we went through someone else to buy our house. But it seems to me the text specifically asked about financing, not the realtor. And I just can't come up with one good reason to acknowledge that text if that's the case. She may be looking at buying a house with her new husband... but I have my doubts. Why else would she ask?

So... I'm trying to give DH time to just tell me about this. And I can wait, but I feel betrayed. I know that may sound like an over-reaction, and maybe it is. But we have agreed specifically that he would tell me about this type of thing. And if I confront him, he will know I looked at his phone and that will be a counter-productive argument, because the focus will switch to that. I've thought about bringing it up in a less confrontational way, but I still see it ending the same because he will feel violated. We are not going to see each other much today or tomorrow, and we will have SS for the vacation after that. Currently, I'm just having a hard time looking at him, which probably isn't helping for open lines of communication. What to do?

savemysanity's picture

My ex and I have conversations a lot. Many texts, many phone calls. Plenty of them are NOT about the children. He and I are friends, and heck, he and his GF hang out with me and SO on weekends sometimes. SO is not threatened at all. No jealousy at all. The two of them are friends now. I might not tell SO EVERY text I get from the ex, but it doesn't matter. I leave my phone unattended everywhere, SO can have any and every password of mine, I don't care. I have nothing to hide. He trusts me completely. AND, now this is the important part, my ex has NEVER tried to cause problems between me and SO or between me, SO and our kids.

With that being said, and I may sound like a bitch, but SO's ex and two of his demon children DO try to cause problems. Repeatedly. If he is secretive about his phone, or conversations with the ex, yeah, it upsets me. I totally understand the "peace-keeping" crap.....SO does the same thing.

I'm sorry, but if ANYONE crosses the line, trying to interfere in our relationship, it's MY business, too, and he BETTER take care of it. My ex, my children, my mother, my family are expected to treat SO with respect. They don't want to deal with me.

rahrah2019's picture

I really appreciate these responses. I know it's not a huge deal, the actual conversation. She is in no way a threat to my marriage. He is repulsed by her and I do trust him as far as that goes. Notasm, I think you are spot on with what is happening. I have been cheated on and hurt badly in the past. I keep reminding myself that is not my husband's burden to bear, because he is as loyal as they come. In fact, when looking at the phone records, I couldn't tell you who anyone else is that he talks to...because I know he's not out there doing me wrong. My problem is feeling betrayed because he hasn't mentioned it. Tog is right, he hasn't mentioned it because he knows I will get mad. Yet, I can't help but wonder, what if the shoe was on the other foot? And I know darn well that he would expect me to tell him.

Thanks for being the voices of reason. I can only imagine how happy my life would be with no BM or SS.

Orange County Ca's picture

See a counselor and work on your understandable issues over trust. Within about 8 sessions s/he should have you happily on your way.

ej'scrazy's picture

Rah,

I get your situation. Our lives, without BM, would be easy. DH and I rarely argue; but when we do, it's always about BM. I've tried disengaging, but when she makes it personal, it's hard to not respond. DH and I have no secrets, even when it's something that might be embarrassing (girl stuff still embarrasses DH).

The conversations boundaries will grow over time. I've mentioned things to DH about "is that appropriate?" and make him think about it, rather than pointing out that I don't like it. He makes changes, sometimes, I think it's the easy way out, sometimes, I don't understand his logic. However, I have come to understand DH's reasoning over time, and it does make sense. He thinks well in advance (something I don't do well). I have learned to trust him. It takes time. I know, though, no matter how much I trust him, I will never trust her. I can't wait until the kids turn 18, and she is out of our lives! (Yes, I realize she will still be in the kids lives, but we won't have to deal directly with her.)

rahrah2019's picture

The thing is, I realize this is a petty thing to get worked up over. But we have had several discussions over what is necessary in communicating with her...after other instances where she has engaged him on a more personal level. He wouldn't tolerate the same conversations coming from any of my exes, but I'm supposed to just go along with it because it's the easier route due to the fact they have a child together? So the point is, we have determined together that the only thing he needs to discuss with her is SS. And blurring the line and going outside the line makes me uncomfortable. OrangeCo gave good advice; I really should see a counselor, because I should not feel so betrayed by something so small. But yet I do. And every moment that passes that he doesn't mention it is compounding that betrayal.

And because of the discussions that we have had in the past, relevant to both of us, about being contacted by an ex, does this mean I can pick and choose what I tell him? Neither of us likes the thought of the other talking to an ex.

Again, I really appreciate the responses and advice. I'm glad to have this place to save me from myself at times.

Orange County Ca's picture

It's not a small issue to you. It's one he should understand and recognize he can easily cater to. How can you trust a guy who lies (by omission) and hides his activities. No your complaint is valid. After a few sessions with you a good counselor will ask to meet with him and other times with both of you.

There are many women posting on this forum who state that their husband is required by mutual consent to contact the BM only via text/email and only when the subject is their children. If you want you can set up a separate email account which you both have access to and he can use that. Again if you feel comfortable she can ask what mechanic she should use, etc., or whatever.