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How important is it to kids (i know that 's diff from how it is for the parents) to actually be part of and witness a marriage

sobeadit's picture

Hi all....I am wondering your all's experience with how important it is for the kids who are blending to be a part of and a witness to a formal commitment ceremony or marriage between the parents. We are dealing with one dd on my side and three kids on her side and all kids like us, i'd say my dd is way more into us getting MARRIED than any of hers are, but do you find that the actual act of involving the kids in witnessing their parents committing to each other makes a difference to how it "feels" for them to be one family?

thanks

S.

lorlors's picture

I just got married on saturday, just DH and I. I think it is a real hot potato inviting the stepkids given BM would have gone mad. I kind of thought if I were her, I would not have wanted my kids going to his marriage to his new wife. I just wouldn't have.

Also, it makes life easier for everyone when BM is calm and acting normal.

sobeadit's picture

well, my partner's ex has a new partner and has had for years so her kids are used to having a stepmom already. so i'd be "mom #4" essentially and i think they'd all be fine with it. no one would be AGAINST us getting married or having some kind of ceremony. so that part isn't an issue. the ex and her partner are not legally married so the ceremony part would be a first for the kids. i am just wondering if actually seeing the parents commit to each other and the ritual of it all would be GOOD for them, to kind of feel like we are committing as a family, not just me to my partner, but to ALL of us. of course a ceremony can be structured however it suits the couple. Smile

hangingbyathread6's picture

All five of the kids (my three, DH's two) were not only at the ceremony but they were the only ones "standing" for us. We got married last summer on the beach at our camp. The three boys and DH wore shorts and tuxedo t-shirts (yes...tuxedo t-shirts, the boys thought they were FABULOUS!) and flip flops, the girls wore sundresses. My two daughters stood on the "bridesmaid" side and my two stepsons and bioson stood on the "groomsmen" side. We were married with a bunch of friends and family around but the kids stood there as the witnesses so to speak and wanted to be a part of it. They had the option of not standing up with us, but DH and I wanted it to be not just a vow to each other but to our "new family" as well. I know for sure my three kids anyway watching and hearing the vows we spoke to each other solidified the union we were making and the stability they were gaining in us being a family. I briefly considered running off to Vegas or something, but ultimately felt I wanted the kids to be a part of it or at least watch the ceremony. BM didn't much like it, but that's too bad...and I made sure our wedding date was on one of OUR weekends so she had no way to cause problems with the kids. Smile

sobeadit's picture

we have her kids: daughter 15, son 12, and son 8. My daughter is 11. their other mom certainly wouldn't need to be "involved" in any way as we would just make sure we did it on our weekend with the kids. and she can't really say anything because she HAS a partner already!

I think my dd would be totally into it and her three would be okay with it but i am not sure about clamoring to be IN the ceremony. maybe her 12 yo son. hmmm maybe her 15 yo daughter wouldn't mind. i think it's more abou their personality to "be part of it" in front of other people rather than them disapproving of us getting married.

i'm just considering this because although we have talked briefly about whether or not we would actually ever legally get married, or even have a ceremony, now that it's been 16 mo i am starting to feel more strongly about having some kind of commitment event for our sakes and the sakes of the kids to see what commitment between two people entails. i mean i think it would strengthen us. i don't know if i want to say its a dealbreaker, but if she was strongly against it, it would be really hard for me to put out of my head WHY, and what's wrong with "us" that she would be against it. i may go as far as to say i do not want to live together (which we had decided we would not do unless we felt as good as ready to be "married") unless we have some kind of ceremony first.

WTF...REALLY's picture

My remarriage with blending kid 3.5 years ago went down like this, kids ages at the time of wedding...

DD17 - -my maid of honor
DS10- ring bearer
SD9 - flower girl

CRAZY ex wife, begged my DH to go to it. After gettiing to know her and seeing it was a control thing....hell no.

All the kids were very happy about thier roles and I would say it helped all feel more like we were a new family.

BM was pissed about not getting to come. Fricken funny!!!!

tiny kitten's picture

I was twenty when my father remarried. At first they were talking about eloping to my grandfather's homeland. I was a little upset about that. I wanted to be there. I didn't let them know I was upset about it. Eventually they decided to get married here. I went. My stepsiblings went. My sister didn't. Not because of any issues with the stepfamily, just because she doesn't like going out.
I was very, very glad to be there. It was important to me that I be able to attend, so I could be reassured that I was still part of my dad's family, and to show that I accepted my stepfamily wholeheartedly.

I want my SD there when SO and I eventually get married. Though it looks like it won't be happening for quite some time.

z3girl's picture

DH and I eloped and didn't involve SDthen17 at all. DH's choice. I think she was hurt because he wasn't very tactful when telling her we were getting married, but she was a bratty teenager, and he didn't want to deal with her nonsense.

My DH and SD23 are no longer particularly close (started drifting once she became a teenager) so I don't think he was very worried about the whole "one big family". We have children together now, and he does occasionally wish we would all be one big happy family, but she has her own life and isn't particularly interested. It is what it is.

I wouldn't push the issue. Include them to the extent that they want to be included. Who wants grumpy kids involved in their wedding?

Rose.Colored.Glasses's picture

I've been considering these types of things myself. FDH has pulled each of my kid's aside separately and asked them what they thought about him marrying their mom. All good there. SD is outright excited about it.
We haven't decided on a date let alone who would be in the wedding. My BD16, who will prob be at least 17-18 by the time we do get married, will be a junior bridesmaid,I hope. She's a tomboy and I haven't seen her in a dress since she's been about 8 at my brother's wedding. I would love for my BD2, will prob be at least 3 1/2 or 4, to be the flowergirl. SD6 was just in her aunt's wedding this past weekend as a flower girl so I don't feel the need to include her in the wedding party. That and I don't want to include her. Maybe that's terrible, but I don't want her trying to make our wedding all about her b/c everything in her mind, is supposed to be about her. Also, by the time we are married she'll be around 8 and she's super tall for her age. I think it's goofy to have a kid that's as tall as an 11yo as a flowergirl.

That's if, and only if I decide to have any kids there. I might be less stressful to outright ban children all together lol

wth was I thinking's picture

"Early on in life after being a maid of honor a couple of times I truly felt like the vows were an extremely intimate act between two people"

This is so true for me. I didn't even want the minimum required witnesses to be there, it's got nothing to do with anyone else but us.

The big G's picture

I'm getting married in Nov, my sd16 could give a rats ass about our wedding. She is a bridesmaid as its the thing u do
she threw a tantrum because shes not chief bridesmaid / maid of honour. She also told her dad that once he married me he wont be her dad anymore wth, i know shes going to kick off on the day. To be prepared I've sa her on a table with 2 people i really trust who are "baby sitting skid"

taken me 10 years to agree to marry oh, be damned if some spoilt sd will ruin it.

Rags's picture

I think it is important for all of the kids to be there. No need for them to participate unless the multifaceted dynamic is positive enough for it to be tolerable for everyone to be part of a family commitment ceremony.

IMHO of course.

We eloped and the Skid was there. He was not quite 2yo at the time. He will be officiating at our vow renewal ceremony on your 20th anniversary in a few weeks.

Good luck and congratulations on your upcoming wedding.

Dizzy's picture

We eloped. Our girls (SD and my BD) knew we were going to, just not an exact date. DH informed BM when we were on our way to the resort town we were getting married and spending the weekend in--didn't want her trying to pull some last minute crap. She sent DH a guilt trip "SD will be disappointed because she wanted to be a flower girl"--as if DH hadn't already had the discussion with her. (On a side note, BM should get married if she wants her DD to be a flower girl, and if I'm a horrible person, why would she even want her DD to be my flower girl??)

The weekend following our elopement/honeymoon, we got all fancied up, the girls got new dresses, and we went out for a "fancy" dinner at an upscale restaurant in the major city we live near. The girls had their "moment" to celebrate and feel special, we got some awesome family pics and it was a good way to include them in the celebration.

IMO, a marriage is between two adults, it is a commitment between the two and if those two want to do it in private, or sans kids, then so be it. There are other ways to include the kids, if you don't want them there or are unable to have them there.

counseling.advocate's picture

Last year my DS7 was the ring bearer, sd8 was the flower girl and sd10 was the jr bridesmaid. During our ceremony we had a family dedication including a sand ceremony and it was very special to all of them and they still talk about it and I'm sure always will. They now refer to each other as brothers and sisters and it's so cute, even though they don't always get along haha.
I think if family is important to you, and you want to pass that along to your kids then you should consider it. Or you could ask them what they want. They are old enough to have an opinion, not necessarily that it will make the final decision but ask them that if there were to be a wedding, what role would they like to play if any, or would they prefer to sit with the guests. They all don't have to participate if they don't want to but at least they would be there.
However way you play it, having the ceremony and having a talk about family and the importantace of togetherness will teach them to appreciate it more and place high standards on their future families and cherish it. IMO.

BethAnne's picture

I really wanted to involve SD (5 at the time) in our wedding. I think it is important. For me a wedding and marriage is joining of two families and it was important that as many family members from both sides were there. But we managed to screw up. My husband didn't realize that the weekend of the wedding was BM's weekend until everything had been booked and all the out of town (and country) guests had made their arrangements (and I didn't think to check, being ignorant to BM ways). And of course BM made a huge fuss and refused to let SD come to our wedding because it was her weekend and that way she had the power. It upset me greatly, it still does. We planned the wedding without really telling SD what was going on. She knew we were getting married but because of her age and experiences didn't know what that meant or realize what she missed out on. We took her for a special weekend away instead, which was nice but not the same. Since then I have shown her my dress and wedding pictures and the other day we watched the wedding video. She loves it all but still hasn't asked us why she wasn't there and doesn't seem affected by it a year later. I imagine that will happen at some point, and we will tell her that it was her mom's weekend and that her mom didn't want to swap. So my conclusion is I am still sad she wasn't there but life goes on.

counseling.advocate's picture

That's BS.... I feel exactly the same way you do, mine being last year, we had to coordinate all that too. I had to put in 30 days written notice to my ex minimum. But you could have gotten a court order if you really wanted to. Sad oh well... Just for future reference

nikki_01's picture

We got married and SD was the flower girl...and someone suggested of course we take it a step FURTHER when it came to including her in the wedding, we did a sand ceremony in front of everyone...yeah it was "cute" but the whole "make daddy carry me around all day and whine about everything when it's not about me"act got reaaaal old reaaaal quick. Hint of advice, if skids are gonna be there, have a bottle of wine prepared.

Ckar2's picture

I have a question about 19 year old daughter being in ex's wedding. I think it is great that she is included. She is a college student and does not have a full-time job. Is it reasonable for Ex to expect daughter to pay for part of her dress?

I am not sure about any of the other expenses that come with being a bridesmaid. This is daughter's first wedding to participate in.