He has a jar that he puts all money in that he gets for working on stuff with DH, etc. To me I don't know if money would be the best reward, or if it would be perhaps a extra hot wheels car, us going out to eat if he wants for dinner as he gets to choose about once a week what we have, and most of the time refuse to go out to eat as cooking at home is cheaper, and healthier.

I know that he will have to be reminded as like I said something we already ask him to do for example the toys but if I went to bed before DH and SS it wouldn't always get done, but now I know for a fact SS will be going to bed first. I just want him to know that at this point it is a big deal that everyone helps...

I also know he will need to be supervised but there is somethings like DH's mess in his work area that I think should have a reward opposed to being expected to be done, as most the time SS has nothing to do with the mess created.

I agree in this sense I am using allowance to mean reward as it is the easiest word associated with chores.

My goal is to make them attainable, and trackable like on the fridge as you suggested - in now way do I want him to feel like I am just being a b*tch and making him do stuff, I know for me my reward is a clean house, for DH his reward is a happy wife and clean house...but for a 5yr old I don't see a clean house feeling like a big reward.

I just want him to appreciate we all do stuff, and have jobs in life, and yes I may come home and lay down as I get up at 4:45 in the morning, but I do pick up and do my part, as does DH and he is expected to as well. I know I refer to it as my house since my name is primarily on the lease but when someone walks in they look at the 3 of us not just me.

Yea...like I said I don't know money works for him but for the mist part he just looks at the jar like WTF, I think maybe a hotwheels car, more time on his four wheeler, or something I just wanted idea.

What is opinion on appropriate chores for and not for allowance?

We would probably due the reward in half week instances - and it may very depending on what he did like once a hot wheels, or if he goes over more time on his four wheeler which is a bigger deal. We get him on Wed and he goes back to BM the next Wed, so I think having it split would seem more appealing.

Thanks...I can see maybe doing some savings and then one of the other rewards like the car or more time on his four-wheeler...I like the idea of him continuing to save though, I just don't see it being the most appealing and motivating for him

See I like this. I was thinking maybe a small reward for basics as like I said I want him to think clothes, and all of that is a essential...where helping DH outside or me pick up certain areas are not necessarily directly related to him so would be worth a little more if he helped.